Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zemmi]

Man, I get it that there are some who doesn't like Trump or the idea of him being the President.

It's a matter of choice/interest and everyone has right to make one.


But there are some who are saying "it sucks shooter missed" and this is sick.

Sickening, but not surprising.

Again, I'm not making a moral statement here Billy. So you take a step back and read what I say. Understanding is not excusing.

Now,

When your life or the life of someone one you love is threatenned by someone, check back on this quote.

This isn't true. Come on. No one's life is threatened. This is the rhetoric that drives those with mental health concerns to do horrible things, like a week ago.

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Sickening, but not surprising.



This isn't true. Come on. No one's life is threatened. This is the rhetoric that drives those with mental health concerns to do horrible things, like a week ago.

Let me clarify. Possibly a week ago, because everything about that kid is strange.

 

[Ravagerblade]

No it's not understandable to say "it's bad someone didn't die"

You are sick

C4n is a sick and twisted person, not surprising.

 

[Zemmi]

People complain about the bandage, but I think they would hate Trump sporting the injury even more.

 

[Logiko]

C4n is a sick and twisted person, not surprising.

And yet, between you and me, I'm the one respecting others.

Nah I don't need to understand any of your crap.

What happened years ago was fucked up.

What happened today is fucked up.

Anyone even trying to justify this is sick

Yeah, I'm used to ignorant people telling me that they don't want to understand the world.

Again, we are not talking about excusing anything, we are talking about understanding the anger of people and the reason why they would not care if fascist or cryptofascist die. If you don't care to understand this anger, you will only make it bigger.

So yeah, if you want, stay in ignorance. I'm choosing to understand. And when people's lives are threatenned, yeah, this is an understandable behavior.

This isn't true. Come on. No one's life is threatened.

And that's why you are a conservatist. You refuse to see the reality of the world and the fact that people's life, mainly trans people and migrants, will be threatenned by the arrival of Trump in power.

This is a fact. Trans people's lives are being threatenned, but not only theirs, Cis women's lives too, because what happens when a ultra conservatist gov arrives in power ? ... well, the rights of women decreases, especially their right for abortion. Which put them in danger.

Overall, women lives, Cis or Trans are at risk.

I get your conservatism and your refusal to accept progressist point of views, but don't tell me that something "is not true" if you don't even care to inform yourself on the datas and researches about the risk those people are facing.

What you are doing here - with others - is dediabolizing the far right. Its the most DANGEROUS thing to do.

Trump might have been shot, yes. Its not something that should happen, also yes. But the guy is still leaning on cryptofascists and ultra conservatist ideas and bases.

Let's not forget that.

 

[Sasparan]

And yet, between you and me, I'm the one respecting others.

Are you really? Are you really respecting others by saying a mans death would be better. Seems contradictory.

 

[Logiko]

Are you really? Are you really respecting others by saying a mans death would be better. Seems contradictory.

Can you repeat what I said in order and without deforming please ?

 

[Ravagerblade]

And yet, between you and me, I'm the one respecting others.



Yeah, I'm used to ignorant people telling me that they don't want to understand the world.

Again, we are not talking about excusing anything, we are talking about understanding the anger of people and the reason why they would not care if fascist or cryptofascist die. If you don't care to understand this anger, you will only make it bigger.

So yeah, if you want, stay in ignorance. I'm choosing to understand. And when people's lives are threatenned, yeah, this is an understandable behavior.



And that's why you are a conservatist. You refuse to see the reality of the world and the fact that people's life, mainly trans people and migrants, will be threatenned by the arrival of Trump in power.

This is a fact. Trans people's lives are being threatenned, but not only theirs, Cis women's lives too, because what happens when a ultra conservatist gov arrives in power ? ... well, the rights of women decreases, especially their right for abortion. Which put them in danger.

Overall, women lives, Cis or Trans are at risk.

I get your conservatism and your refusal to accept progressist point of views, but don't tell me that something "is not true" if you don't even care to inform yourself on the datas and researches about the risk those people are facing.

What you are doing here - with others - is dediabolizing the far right. Its the most DANGEROUS thing to do.

Trump might have been shot, yes. Its not something that should happen, also yes. But the guy is still leaning on cryptofascists and ultra conservatist ideas and bases.

Let's not forget that.

Respecting? Hah No I've Respected the people who don't attack me and my character, but continue on with your delusional bullshit, it all you got.

 

[Reborn]

C4n is a sick and twisted person, not surprising.

I really don't care much about political affiliations.

It's okay if you don't like Trump or Biden or any political leader or anyone else for the sake of discussion


It's okay to criticize them..even troll them as long as its not crossing boundaries

It's okay to express dislike and be angry.

But what it's not okay is to say it's understandable why anyone will try to assassinate someone or it's understandable why anyone will wish death on someone. No it's not okay.

 

[Ravagerblade]

People complain about the bandage, but I think they would hate Trump sporting the injury even more.

I hope he does sport it openly.

 

[Sasparan]

Can you repeat what I said in order and without deforming please ?

Am i really deforming? You are literally excusing a killing attempt and hiding behind your thought saying you respect peoples wishes. Which is sick way of seeing things.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Am i really deforming? You are literally excusing a killing attempt and hiding behind your thought saying you respect peoples wishes. Which is sick way of seeing things.

He's crying because he wants to "protect trannies, and non-binary people " etc from what it seems.

 

[Zemmi]

Trump/Vance has a rally 4 hours from now and there's already a huge crowd lined up to get inside. Couldn't be me. Very few people, possibly only one, that I would want to see that I would wait that long in line for.

 

[Roo]

C4N is just dying on the "everybody's feelings matter" hill which is stupid.

 

[Logiko]

Am i really deforming? You are literally excusing a killing attempt and hiding behind your thought saying you respect peoples wishes. Which is sick way of seeing things.

Yes you are deforming. And you continue doing it in that sentence. And my guess is that you know full well that you are lying and deforming what I say since you refuse to repeat what I said exactly.

Respecting? Hah No I've Respected the people who don't attack me and my character, but continue on with your delusional bullshit, it all you got.

This you ? (talking about trans women being women) >>

They are not and never will be.

You see, this is the positive thing with the fact that the moderation doesn't care to moderate toxic and transphobic behavior. I've actual proof of you being actually problematic.. and not respectable.

Oh ! here you go again. I'll not report you. Its useless, mods are on the transphobic side, but you proved what I said once again hehe

But what it's not okay is to say it's understandable why anyone will try to assassinate someone or it's understandable why anyone will wish death on someone. No it's not okay.

Are you so completely lost in your bias that you don't understand the difference between empathy and sympathy ?

Empathy is our capacity to understand and comprehend the feelings behind the emotion of someone else. Empathy does not mean that we agree with the feeling, empathy means that we UNDERSTAND the feeling.

To give you an example, this is the difference between understanding the reason behind Orochi's anger against the inhabitants of Wano and the Kozuki clan AND the sympathy or agreement with his point of view.

Empathy and understanding when it comes to behavior are ESSENTIAL to understand how we human work.

It CRAZY how I have to CONSTANTLY explain BASIC concepts of BASIC human comprehension.

There is not one day where I'm not facing either a lie, a toxic bias or the deformation and misscomprehension of my words. Its really astonishing !

You guys are the worst listenners

C4N is just dying on the "everybody's feelings matter" hill which is stupid.

If that was the case, I would consider that the feeling of fascists matter and this is not the case. No, everybody's feeling don't matter.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Yes you are deforming. And you continue doing it in that sentence. And my guess is that you know full well that you are lying and deforming what I say since you refuse to repeat what I said exactly.



This you ? (talking about trans women being women) >>


You see, this is the positive thing with the fact that the moderation doesn't care to moderate toxic and transphobic behavior. I've actual proof of you being actually problematic.. and not respectable.

Oh ! here you go again. I'll not report you. Its useless, mods are on the transphobic side, but you proved what I said once again hehe





Are you so completely lost in your bias that you don't understand the difference between empathy and sympathy ?

Empathy is our capacity to understand and comprehend the feelings behind the emotion of someone else. Empathy does not mean that we agree with the feeling, empathy means that we UNDERSTAND the feeling.

To give you an example, this is the difference between understanding the reason behind Orochi's anger against the inhabitants of Wano and the Kozuki clan AND the sympathy or agreement with his point of view.

Empathy and understanding when it comes to behavior are ESSENTIAL to understand how we human work.

It CRAZY how I have to CONSTANTLY explain BASIC concepts of BASIC human comprehension.

There is not one day where I'm not facing either a lie, a toxic bias or the deformation and misscomprehension of my words. Its really astonishing !

You guys are the worst listenners

I don't consider a "trans women" as a woman, That's my view, I have the right to think that. So does many, many, many others. Not my fault you and the trannies can't handle it. You try lean on that word, respect, I really don't think you understand much in reality.

 

[Logiko]

I have the right to think that.

Thinking and saying are too different things. You are in a social place here. So expressing your intolerant and ignorant point of view is like going in the streets or in a mall with potential trans women people around you screaming "you guy are not women".

Its toxic, its transphobic, its associal, its problematic and it must not be allowed.

You have rights. For example, you have the right to think what you want. Being a transphobe is not one of them.

So, don't lie the next time. You don't respect other people.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Lmfao this was hilarious to watch

 

[Roo]

If that was the case, I would consider that the feeling of fascists matter and this is not the case. No, everybody's feeling don't matter.

ah I am sorry

"only my side feelings matters"

is that better?

 

[Ravagerblade]

Thinking and saying are too different things. You are in a social place here. So expressing your intolerant and ignorant point of view is like going in the streets or in a mall with potential trans women people around you screaming "you guy are not women".

Its toxic, its transphobic, its associal, its problematic and it must not be allowed.

You have rights. For example, you have the right to think what you want. Being a transphobe is not one of them.

So, don't lie the next time. You don't respect other people.

Your problem is you can't handle that some people Don't share your viewpoints, You continue to attack them like a petulant child who doesn't get their way. Making up excuses, trying to gaslight all the while.
You are the intolerant one, You are a hypocritical ball of nonsense.

Crying that the mods don't moderate me and what I say, that they must be toxic etc too and you trash on them. Lol You're so annoying.

 

[Reborn]

Yes you are deforming. And you continue doing it in that sentence. And my guess is that you know full well that you are lying and deforming what I say since you refuse to repeat what I said exactly.



This you ? (talking about trans women being women) >>


You see, this is the positive thing with the fact that the moderation doesn't care to moderate toxic and transphobic behavior. I've actual proof of you being actually problematic.. and not respectable.

Oh ! here you go again. I'll not report you. Its useless, mods are on the transphobic side, but you proved what I said once again hehe





Are you so completely lost in your bias that you don't understand the difference between empathy and sympathy ?

Empathy is our capacity to understand and comprehend the feelings behind the emotion of someone else. Empathy does not mean that we agree with the feeling, empathy means that we UNDERSTAND the feeling.

To give you an example, this is the difference between understanding the reason behind Orochi's anger against the inhabitants of Wano and the Kozuki clan AND the sympathy or agreement with his point of view.

Empathy and understanding when it comes to behavior are ESSENTIAL to understand how we human work.

It CRAZY how I have to CONSTANTLY explain BASIC concepts of BASIC human comprehension.

There is not one day where I'm not facing either a lie, a toxic bias or the deformation and misscomprehension of my words. Its really astonishing !

You guys are the worst listenners


If that was the case, I would consider that the feeling of fascists matter and this is not the case. No, everybody's feeling don't matter.

All your understanding and level of comprehension matters only when it involves those with whom you align with..


We got it. You are biased AF.