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And yet there is, gender identity is still a big object of research. Some might say that gender is over, but it's not really the case for Trans people who feel gender in their bones.
So right now, the consensus is to say that yes, it is a real transition.
That would be true in a society without gender. Not in a patriarcal and heteronormative society where gender are clearly defined and have very strong stereotypes attached to them.
Gender Disphoria is a mix of internal and external push mate. If the society wasn't oppressive toward people who are not aligned witht heteronormative stereotypes, there would be less problems, but that's not the case. And you can see it without even talking about Trans people.
Imane Khelif who is a CIS woman boxer was massively harrassed for having too much masculine physical attributes.
I literally asked you to ask them a question. And you answered that if they say "no" to you question "would it be ok to say that a trans woman just a trans woman and not a real woman", they would be wrong.
You are therefore saying that they would be wrong to be offended because you are denying their legitimacy mate.
So right now, the consensus is to say that yes, it is a real transition.
That would be true in a society without gender. Not in a patriarcal and heteronormative society where gender are clearly defined and have very strong stereotypes attached to them.
Gender Disphoria is a mix of internal and external push mate. If the society wasn't oppressive toward people who are not aligned witht heteronormative stereotypes, there would be less problems, but that's not the case. And you can see it without even talking about Trans people.
Imane Khelif who is a CIS woman boxer was massively harrassed for having too much masculine physical attributes.
I literally asked you to ask them a question. And you answered that if they say "no" to you question "would it be ok to say that a trans woman just a trans woman and not a real woman", they would be wrong.
You are therefore saying that they would be wrong to be offended because you are denying their legitimacy mate.
So a male person cant identify as a transwoman if said individual doesnt alter his appearance?
Nah. Of course they can be offended by whatever they want. I didnt say they cant be offended or that they would be wrong about being offended.
They would be wrong about telling me its not ok to use words as they are defined.
Has once again nothing to do with denying their legitimacy either
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Nah. Of course they can be offended by whatever they want. I didnt say they cant be offended or that they would be wrong about being offended.
They would be wrong about telling me its not ok to use words as they are defined.
Has once again nothing to do with denying their legitimacy either
There are no "male person" in the human kind. Only person with male characteristics. Sex is more complicated than just female and male.
But yes, someone with male characteristic can completely identify as transwomen without changing his appearance. But chances are that they will try to change it anyway because of gender disphoria or heteronormativity in society.
Also, some some trans (gender fluid people for example) will not try to change their physical appearance but remain as they are and simply tweeking the surface level (closes, make up etc.)
Which is basically the same as saying that they would be wrong to tell you they they are factually systematically oppressed by the usage of said words.
Not by you necessarily, but by society in general.
You usage participate in said oppression. There no, they are not wrong to tell you that you are not using the correct usage. They are telling you that you are using an oppressive usage.
And yes.. AGAIN, it has EVERYTHING to do with the fact of delegitimazing their identity. It's an indirect consequence of your usage.
But yes, someone with male characteristic can completely identify as transwomen without changing his appearance. But chances are that they will try to change it anyway because of gender disphoria or heteronormativity in society.
Also, some some trans (gender fluid people for example) will not try to change their physical appearance but remain as they are and simply tweeking the surface level (closes, make up etc.)
Which is basically the same as saying that they would be wrong to tell you they they are factually systematically oppressed by the usage of said words.
Not by you necessarily, but by society in general.
You usage participate in said oppression. There no, they are not wrong to tell you that you are not using the correct usage. They are telling you that you are using an oppressive usage.
And yes.. AGAIN, it has EVERYTHING to do with the fact of delegitimazing their identity. It's an indirect consequence of your usage.
Billions of humans can, through their physical and biological traits, be defined as male. Billions can be defined as female through their physical and biological characteristics. The minority that does not fall directly within either of the two is an exception.
Exceptions only exist because there are norms. Without clear norms there would be no exceptions - everything would be undefinable.
Exceptions only exist because there are norms. Without clear norms there would be no exceptions - everything would be undefinable.
well by saying there are no male individuals you are bascially saying sex isnt a thing in humans.
attention everyone: logiko will win a nobel prize because he uncovered that sexual reproduction isnt possible in humans, meaning that all supposed reproduction we can see around us is an elaborate conspiracy done by our alien overlords
and exceptions are a thing because nature isnt perfect and fucks up occasionally.
attention everyone: logiko will win a nobel prize because he uncovered that sexual reproduction isnt possible in humans, meaning that all supposed reproduction we can see around us is an elaborate conspiracy done by our alien overlords
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and exceptions are a thing because nature isnt perfect and fucks up occasionally.
It is. It's just not defined as easily as you think, that's all.
Sex is male or female, but sex is multidimensional.
Mate :
https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender
Sex is male or female, but sex is multidimensional.
attention everyone: logiko will win a nobel prize because he uncovered that sexual reproduction isnt possible in humans, meaning that all supposed reproduction we can see around us is an elaborate conspiracy done by our alien overlords
https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender
It is. It's just not defined as easily as you think, that's all.
Sex is male or female, but sex is multidimensional.
Mate :
https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender
Sex is male or female, but sex is multidimensional.
Mate :
https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender
logikos source: "All animals (including humans) have a sex."
logiko:
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how can one person be so full of shit. its kind of amazing actually.
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No technically.
Simply because sex is multidimensionnal. And the best way is to defined a person through all their sexual characteristics.
Of course, you can say "they are male, or female" to short it up, but it might not really be exact.
The best things to say is: "they have said and said male or female characteristics or ALL female or male characteristics"
Simply because sex is multidimensionnal. And the best way is to defined a person through all their sexual characteristics.
Of course, you can say "they are male, or female" to short it up, but it might not really be exact.
The best things to say is: "they have said and said male or female characteristics or ALL female or male characteristics"
No, you’re just wrong. You said the definitions of men and women changed. They haven’t. Intersex is a different category, separate altogether and it’s not new either.
Hahah don’t go saying incorrect things if you don’t want to be corrected
Hahah don’t go saying incorrect things if you don’t want to be corrected
My Twitter timeline is full of Indian Feminists pushing *ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS* rheotic.
Idk why Musk's algorithm pushing this.
Then I see an Indian trainee doctor got gang raped in state run hospital so emotions are high
Instead of putting pressure to the government and hospital it's full gender wars in Twitter
Idk why Musk's algorithm pushing this.
Then I see an Indian trainee doctor got gang raped in state run hospital so emotions are high
Instead of putting pressure to the government and hospital it's full gender wars in Twitter