Controversial General Political Discussion

[Jew D. Boy]

You and I have done this dance too many times, Ravager, you’re gonna have to bait harder to get a reaction out of me

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lol so moving the goalpost is fine

Who’s moving goalposts?? Progressives progress, and conservatives conserve, right there in the names…

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You and I have done this dance too many times, Ravager, you’re gonna have to bait harder to get a reaction out of me

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Who’s moving goalposts?? Progressives progress, and conservatives conserve, right there in the names…

@Ravagerblade Thought I quoted your post, message still stands

 

[Ravagerblade]

You and I have done this dance too many times, Ravager, you’re gonna have to bait harder to get a reaction out of me

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Who’s moving goalposts?? Progressives progress, and conservatives conserve, right there in the names…

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@Ravagerblade Thought I quoted your post, message still stands

I'm not baiting. Idk why you think so.
But regardless idk how you could be proud of the last 4 years and all that's been happening now should have been a wake up call but I guess you're too far gone.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

What you described (I don't know what is your country) is the shifting of the overton Window. It's something that happened everywhere in the world since 2001 (and a bit before for some country).

From the left, to the right.

I mean, they started shifting their views in a matter of weeks since UK and France basically said they want to go to war, lmao. Clowns.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I'm not baiting. Idk why you think so.
But regardless idk how you could be proud of the last 4 years and all that's been happening now should have been a wake up call but I guess you're too far gone.

The last four years were a waste of time, you’re not getting what I mean when I say liberals are as bad as their counterparts…it IS possible to see both sides as villainous and ineffective, you’ve just long been brainwashed into thinking you have to like one of the two

 

[Ravagerblade]

The last four years were a waste of time, you’re not getting what I mean when I say liberals are as bad as their counterparts…it IS possible to see both sides as villainous and ineffective, you’ve just long been brainwashed into thinking you have to like one of the two

Lol brainwashed? No it's called having a set of morals and values but if that's what you call it no wonder...
I'm no fan of rhinos, Sanders is a Socialist AoC is apparently the Democrats best leader... your side is falling apart at the seems.

 

[AL sama]

Who’s moving goalposts?? Progressives progress, and conservatives conserve, right there in the names…

I think the left progresses a bit too fast

I m a centrist and I can say we progress too but not as fast as the left cause progressing too fast isn't good

just my view tho

 

[Logiko]

I mean, they started shifting their views in a matter of weeks since UK and France basically said they want to go to war, lmao. Clowns.

France started to shift a bit before. We were ahead in term of letting the far right speak in public debate. (which is why the result of the election poll in 2002 was literally exactly what you can see now in America > A conservatist VS a fascist).

The rest of society followed rapidly yes.

Lol brainwashed? No it's called having a set of morals and values but if that's what you call it no wonder...

Dude, both democrats and republican are fascists enablers. it just happen that one is more fascist than the other and is more effective spreading fascism.

Leftists want both side gone.

I think the left progresses a bit too fast

Where ?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Lol brainwashed? No it's called having a set of morals and values but if that's what you call it no wonder...
I'm no fan of rhinos, Sanders is a Socialist AoC is apparently the Democrats best leader... your side is falling apart at the seems.

I have talked to you many times over the years and I have never seen you say a single thing that indicates your moral compass is founded on anything but fear and ignorance, so let’s drop that notion before we go any further…and your side is chock full of vile idiots who hate what they don’t understand and refuse to learn anything from the many lives that righties have ruined through policy and violence - including theirs!! Sanders and AOC both have more integrity in their pinkie fingers than every Republican on the planet, and they’re fighting for your rights just like anyone else’s while Donnie and Elon summarily strip them away 😘

I think the left progresses a bit too fast

I m a centrist and I can say we progress too but not as fast as the left cause progressing too fast isn't good

just my view tho

Why do you think we should slow down when conservatives are hungrily racing towards fascism?? You fight fire with fire, not running away and hiding…

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

France started to shift a bit before. We were ahead in term of letting the far right speak in public debate. (which is why the result of the election poll in 2002 was literally exactly what you can see now in America > A conservatist VS a fascist).

The rest of society followed rapidly yes.

I don't care about 2002 I am talking about democrats here doing a 180° in their opinions during the last few weeks. They need our people to die in some crappy East-European forest so they are pushing this.

 

[AL sama]

Why do you think we should slow down when conservatives are hungrily racing towards fascism?? You fight fire with fire, not running away and hiding…

moving to fast means less time to think

you obviously don't think having more time to consider things is bad right??

 

[Mathias]

I have talked to you many times over the years and I have never seen you say a single thing that indicates your moral compass is founded on anything but fear and ignorance, so let’s drop that notion before we go any further…and your side is chock full of vile idiots who hate what they don’t understand and refuse to learn anything from the many lives that righties have ruined through policy and violence - including theirs!! Sanders and AOC both have more integrity in their pinkie fingers than every Republican on the planet, and they’re fighting for your rights just like anyone else’s while Donnie and Elon summarily strip them away 😘

Why do you think we should slow down when conservatives are hungrily racing towards fascism?? You fight fire with fire, not running away and hiding…

I've heard that when there is a shift toward a side (far-right currently), both extremes ae increasing by "nature". Don't know what to think of it exactly.

moving to fast means less time to think

you obviously don't think having more time to consider things is bad right??

To be fair, the left is full of theories, ideologies and concepts that have been thought for decades and decades if not centuries. Meanwhile the far-right wants something so archaic that barely never existed or was only "good" for the few

 

[Ravagerblade]

I have talked to you many times over the years and I have never seen you say a single thing that indicates your moral compass is founded on anything but fear and ignorance, so let’s drop that notion before we go any further…and your side is chock full of vile idiots who hate what they don’t understand and refuse to learn anything from the many lives that righties have ruined through policy and violence - including theirs!! Sanders and AOC both have more integrity in their pinkie fingers than every Republican on the planet, and they’re fighting for your rights just like anyone else’s while Donnie and Elon summarily strip them away 😘

Why do you think we should slow down when conservatives are hungrily racing towards fascism?? You fight fire with fire, not running away and hiding…

So much bullshit in a single post. I'd be surprised but this is you we're talking about.
You talk about the right have violent tendency? That's just bullshit, any number of people with varying political beliefs are violent, How shameless to think it's only "righties" I laugh as such ignorance.
Sanders shills for Democrats and yet Masks himself as an Independent. AoC is one of the dumbest women alive in politics. Faking pictures several times as nothing more than a Photo-op.
Real Integrity there Jew D, *Golf Clap".

How about the shear incompetence of the California Fires not to long ago. That Mayor decided to go to Ghana at such a suspicious time. Gavin wastes billions of money.
What ever happened to that High Speed Rail that was funded for back in 2008? It went nowhere.

Don't fucking talk about Integrity when Democrats have none to show for it.
The illegal alien/crossing boarder problems was another thing that your side was grossly incompetent on, That actually was encouraged upon.
Don't you dare lecture me about Integrity when Democrats were complicit.

 

[Zenos7]

he thought you made a joke about Islam

well the video contains satirical depictions of popular muslims, i guess.

 

[Logiko]

I don't care about 2002 I am talking about democrats here doing a 180° in their opinions during the last few weeks. They need our people to die in some crappy East-European forest so they are pushing this.

Are you saying that democrats are doing a 180 because they are trying to defend Ukraine and Europe ?

Because that has been the democrats's position for 2 years .....

moving to fast means less time to think

you obviously don't think having more time to consider things is bad right??

People did not started to think about leftism yesterday or because of Trump. There is a century of thinkers behind us.

 

[AL sama]

To be fair, the left is full of theories, ideologies and concepts that have been thought for decades and decades if not centuries. Meanwhile the far-right wants something so archaic that barely never existed or was only "good" for the few

I'll just say this many things/theories look great on paper but turns out to be bad in reality

well the video contains satirical depictions of popular muslims, i guess.

true

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Are you saying that democrats are doing a 180 because they are trying to defend Ukraine and Europe ?

Because that has been the democrats's position for 2 years .....

The democrats were associating patriotism with fascism and whatnot, acting like nationality doesn't really exist etc, now they are pushing patriotism and saying we need to fight for our homeland.

 

[Logiko]

I've heard that when there is a shift toward a side (far-right currently), both extremes ae increasing by "nature". Don't know what to think of it exactly.

That's what I've been trying to warn this forum about.

With the increase of the far right, leftists will be forced to be radical to survive and protect people (a bit like I'm trying to do here), and the more it will go on, the stronger will be the push between one side or the other. Meanwhile centrists will feel a push toward the far right as it is there that lies their interest as idealists.

Which means that everything, from politics to social circles on internet will start to shift toward the right and the far right. It's only avoidable by creating a strong opposing force.

You can see this push toward the right happening here by the push created by far rightists and by mods shielding up when they are called out for protecting far right content.

In a few years and if nothing is done, this website will be a full on conservative center. Perhaps not far right, but clearly not progressive. It's a simple logic of power balance.

 

[Ravagerblade]

That's what I've been trying to warn this forum about.

With the increase of the far right, leftists will be forced to be radical to survive and protect people (a bit like I'm trying to do here), and the more it will go on, the stronger will be the push between one side or the other. Meanwhile centrists will feel a push toward the far right as it is there that lies their interest as idealists.

Which means that everything, from politics to social circles on internet will start to shift toward the right and the far right. It's only avoidable by creating a strong opposing force.

You can see this push toward the right happening here by the push created by far rightists and by mods shielding up when they are called out for protecting far right content.

In a few years and if nothing is done, this website will be a full on conservative center. Perhaps not far right, but clearly not progressive. It's a simple logic of power balance.

That's the worst thing you could do. hahaha Wow what terrible thought.

 

[AL sama]

@Jew D. Boy to be fair I think I took the topic out of context a bit

 

[Logiko]

That's the worst thing you could do. hahaha Wow what terrible thought.

I can't do it. We are 4 or 5 leftists max here and I seems to be the only one radical enough to demand a big structural change on this forum so.....