I don’t think you’re an enabler by any means, but he’s not wrong about nameless. It is truly ironic to be either American or Brazilian (or from any country throguhout the americas) and be anti immigrant. None of us are 100% native to these lands.
Illegall and uncontrolled immigration is an entirely different matter. Yeah, Trump is doing shady things, but i understand the reasoning behind it. Biden was irresponsible with his policy.
Believe me, Nameless and I are rarely aligned on these issues, so I agree that it’s ironic…I just don’t like that word on a personal level and don’t think it needs to be thrown around so easily :luuh:
This thread attracts cyber bullys. Political divergence is just an excuse cowards use to be act like assholes. Rabid newbie will get his tantrum checked eventually.
 
@Uncle Van @TheAncientCenturion @Mr. Reloaded do you guys think ICE is in the wrong?? cause as an outsider their actions look pretty reasonable to me
Their actions could warrant criticism, but also, I understand the rationale.

America has taken in many immigrants over the last decades, now the government is scaling down and being more selective over who they are allowing to stay in the country. The government is in particular cracking down on the undocumented and asylum seekers, as well as other non citizens whose behavior they deem problematic.

I think if you take these recent immigration crackdowns in the context of the large amount of immigration the US has received in past decades, I think it paints a much more balanced picture. As opposed to “Le US is literally nazi germany”.

That said, I think certain actions the government is taking is very problematic. Like the deals with El Salvador to funnel people deemed as criminals into prisons without a trial.

Overall I think the conversation is a lot more nuanced than people on, say Reddit, would have you believe.
 
Their actions could warrant criticism, but also, I understand the rationale.

America has taken in many immigrants over the last decades, now the government is scaling down and being more selective over who they are allowing to stay in the country. The government is in particular cracking down on the undocumented and asylum seekers, as well as other non citizens whose behavior they deem problematic.

I think if you take these recent immigration crackdowns in the context of the large amount of immigration the US has received in past decades, I think it paints a much more balanced picture. As opposed to “Le US is literally nazi germany”.

That said, I think certain actions the government is taking is very problematic. Like the deals with El Salvador to funnel people deemed as criminals into prisons without a trial.

Overall I think the conversation is a lot more nuanced than people on, say Reddit, would have you believe.
"Yeah they're putting people in foreign human rights abuses filled death camps to avoid reckoning with that being unconstitutional, but theres a lot of immigrants so its balanced."

I'm certain a lot of other groups have said similar things. "Yeah, they're killing the Jews. But germans have been tired of the jews for a while. So it paints a balanced picture, actually."

Every single trumper would be at home in Nazi germany. They have one layer of abstraction that allows them to pretend they don't support en masse killing or ethnic cleansing undesirables. Not a single one would change their vote if it did come out that every single prisoner was raped daily as a rule. It is constantly pointed out by Trump and his cabinet in word and deed that it is in fact based on their ethnic background and nationality rather than any actual rationale about illegal or not.

But theres a lot of immigration, so we can't make too big of a fuss about it, right? Because we gotta get rid of all these damn mexican hannibal lecters!
 
Ok, so you have no proof of the american left using illegal votes to win, you know you don't, you know all the evidence trump claimed to have didn't exist, and you're too embarrassed to say that so you jump to this. thanks for playing.
Stop, we both know they would all jump on the left bandwagon once they get their citizenship.
 

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Illegall and uncontrolled immigration is an entirely different matter. Yeah, Trump is doing shady things, but i understand the reasoning behind it. Biden was irresponsible with his policy.

This thread attracts cyber bullys. Political divergence is just an excuse cowards use to be act like assholes. Rabid newbie will get his tantrum checked eventually.
The problem is really that the current sociopolitical moment in America and abroad is based almost entirely on cruelty and a lack of acceptance of other ideas; I’d be lying if I said I don’t ever participate in it, but I’d rather see the people who actually deserve it (politicians and religious leaders with the power to change these things) get taken to task, nothing’s gonna improve based on what those of us in this thread believe…
 
Being elected and getting re elected don't mean hes not authoritarian lmfao. Imagine not thinking democratically elected people can push the boundaries on the power of their position. I can't imagine being so ret***ed, personally. He saved lives? again, non sequitur, moralistic hand wringing to avoid actuallly looking at evidence of authoritarianism. Ret***ed, you might say.

For example, Im sure i could name some democratically elected leaders that you would say are dictators because they secretly were voted in by evil foreigners, right?
You talk about evidence, but you yourself hasn't shown any. You are just throwing insults and random accusations.
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The problem is really that the current sociopolitical moment in America and abroad is based almost entirely on cruelty and a lack of acceptance of other ideas; I’d be lying if I said I don’t ever participate in it, but I’d rather see the people who actually deserve it (politicians and religious leaders with the power to change these things) get taken to task, nothing’s gonna improve based on what those of us in this thread believe…
I agree. We all here bitching about things we can't control.
 
Stop, we both know they would all jump on the left bandwagon once they get their citizenship.
I thought you were done posting shit you just "know" once you had to backtrack earlier. Guess I was right about your habits. Fact is, you know the evidence isn't there and you just think any argument that serves to lead to a perfect isolationist ethnostate is good, no matter if its a lie or not
Illegall and uncontrolled immigration is an entirely different matter. Yeah, Trump is doing shady things, but i understand the reasoning behind it. Biden was irresponsible with his policy.

This thread attracts cyber bullys. Political divergence is just an excuse cowards use to be act like assholes. Rabid newbie will get his tantrum checked eventually.
I sincerely cannot imagine being such a pussy that you act like this. Really? You think cyberbullying is a bridge too far? People are assholes to you because, newsflash, political vs non-political is arbitrary. They're all beliefs you hold. You think people shouldn't be allowed to be meanies to you if you say the belief is political, like a kid on the schoolyard pretending to put up a forcefield.
 
"Yeah they're putting people in foreign human rights abuses filled death camps to avoid reckoning with that being unconstitutional, but theres a lot of immigrants so its balanced."

I'm certain a lot of other groups have said similar things. "Yeah, they're killing the Jews. But germans have been tired of the jews for a while. So it paints a balanced picture, actually."

Every single trumper would be at home in Nazi germany. They have one layer of abstraction that allows them to pretend they don't support en masse killing or ethnic cleansing undesirables. Not a single one would change their vote if it did come out that every single prisoner was raped daily as a rule. It is constantly pointed out by Trump and his cabinet in word and deed that it is in fact based on their ethnic background and nationality rather than any actual rationale about illegal or not.

But theres a lot of immigration, so we can't make too big of a fuss about it, right? Because we gotta get rid of all these damn mexican hannibal lecters!
lol You are literally defending gangsters that have terrorized the population of Latin America, hypocrite. You don't have the moral high ground here, son. Prove Bukele is a dictator. People that throw accusations are the ones that need to show actual proof. You are even more hysterical than C4N. Oh my god, this thread attracts some many degenerates...
 
Brother if you can cry about how I'm a meanie who can't read for not restating your argument verbatim I want the quote where I "defended" gangsters who terrorized the populace.

Heres a thought experiment: Lets say putin puts away some gangsters. Am i.... not allowed to call him a dictator now? would that mean I'm defending gangsters?
lol You are literally defending gangsters that have terrorized the population of Latin America, hypocrite. You don't have the moral high ground here, son. Prove Bukele is a dictator. People that throw accusations are the ones that need to show actual proof. You are even more hysterical than C4N. Oh my god, this thread attracts some many degenerates...

@eamonpro ay yo wtf..relax. Shit came outta nowhere and went to 100 from the jump lol
Oh joy here comes the mods to white knight for the cryptoracists lol
 
Their actions could warrant criticism, but also, I understand the rationale.

America has taken in many immigrants over the last decades, now the government is scaling down and being more selective over who they are allowing to stay in the country. The government is in particular cracking down on the undocumented and asylum seekers, as well as other non citizens whose behavior they deem problematic.

I think if you take these recent immigration crackdowns in the context of the large amount of immigration the US has received in past decades, I think it paints a much more balanced picture. As opposed to “Le US is literally nazi germany”.

That said, I think certain actions the government is taking is very problematic. Like the deals with El Salvador to funnel people deemed as criminals into prisons without a trial.

Overall I think the conversation is a lot more nuanced than people on, say Reddit, would have you believe.
Proper border enforcement is okay

What ICE is doing is inhumane and unconstitutional. It is damn near fascistic to support it
 
Brother if you can cry about how I'm a meanie who can't read for not restating your argument verbatim I want the quote where I "defended" gangsters who terrorized the populace.

Heres a thought experiment: Lets say putin puts away some gangsters. Am i.... not allowed to call him a dictator now? would that mean I'm defending gangsters?





Oh joy here comes the mods to white knight for the cryptoracists lol
"Yeah they're putting people in foreign human rights abuses filled death camps to avoid reckoning with that being unconstitutional, but theres a lot of immigrants so its balanced."

But theres a lot of immigration, so we can't make too big of a fuss about it, right? Because we gotta get rid of all these damn mexican hannibal lecters!
You did it here, but you are too disingenuous too say it out loud. "Death camps" lol
 
Proper border enforcement is okay

What ICE is doing is inhumane and unconstitutional. It is damn near fascistic to support it
Deporting citizens and people that have actual legal papers to reside in the US is indeed fucked up.
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Why did you ban him we need more antagonistic people in this thread
No, we don't. We need this place to die out.
 
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