Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Welcome to the sexist club

We are all sexist.

That's the first rule I'm trying to make you guys understand.

 

[notAfanboy]

It is about woman and men. And indeed, all things human do not deserve respect, but in that case it does. There is no objective reason to deny the respect of women who do these job. Unless of course if you base your ethic on a moral like religion that is perfectly subjective and completely baseless in term of objective problematics.



We are not talking about space here. Just basic human respect. Just the fact of being a good person.


Not necessaraly no. Modernity can come before moral and public acceptance.


1. Not in the case of onlyfan. Where you would just be propagating a sexist moral panic and argumentation that the alt right tend to use. As Onlyfan is only a service of video and photo not a physical service. Same things as taking yourself in picture and selling it. With or without closes on.
2. Not gloryfing sex work don't deny you the basic capacity of being an actual good person and respect those sex worker as most of the time this is not a choice made because of a whim.
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It doesn't. But yeah, some of them are sex worker. But you forgot that there are men too.. which only prove that what you are interesting in, is not the work in itself.. its denying respect to women.

"Modernity can come before moral and public acceptance."
How dumb can you be?
I just gave you an example of gain of function research.
No, modernity takes back seat when it comes to morals and public acceptance.

You are basically saying that it is ok to force people to accept sth they dont like.
You are not only a narcissist, but a hypocrite and bigot.

 

[Uncle Van]

We are all sexist.

That's the first rule I'm trying to make you guys understand.

Projection. You are the one who's sexist and loves alt right rhetoric, so you project to make it seem like everyone is just like you 🤷‍♂️

 

[Logiko]

"Modernity can come before moral and public acceptance."
How dumb can you be?
I just gave you an example of gain of function research.
No, modernity takes back seat when it comes to morals and public acceptance.

You are basically saying that it is ok to force people to accept sth they dont like.
You are not only a narcissist, but a hypocrite and bigot.

I'm not saying anything. Modernity is just a product of society. I think you are looking at it backward.
Modernity is as much as an environmental pressure as location or time.
If modernity is indeed a product of humanity, it is also what pushes it him forward in certain case and backward in others.

I think you are putting a moral value on modernity. I'm not doing that. Modernity is neutral, it's just a product of humanity's activities.

But in most case, it's modernity who will shape our vision of the word, not the opposite.

You can take Internet as the golden example of that. Weither you agree with it or not, Internet imposed itself because of demands. Now, we need to adapt, we can't go back. (unless you wanna live with the amish)

Projection. You are the one who's sexist and loves alt right rhetoric, so you project to make it seem like everyone is just like you 🤷‍♂️

Sure. If that suits your world view, deny reality. Deny patriarchy. Deny systemic oppression against women.
Sure.. Do that.

"and love alt right rhetoric".. oh come on now.. this doesn't even make sence

 

[notAfanboy]

I'm not saying anything. Modernity is just a product of society. I think you are looking at it backward.
Modernity is as much as an environmental pressure as location or time.
If modernity is indeed a product of humanity, it is also what pushes it him forward in certain case and backward in others.

I think you are putting a moral value on modernity. I'm not doing that. Modernity is neutral, it's just a product of humanity's activities.

But in most case, it's modernity who will shape our vision of the word, not the opposite.

You can take Internet as the golden example of that. Weither you agree with it or not, Internet imposed itself because of demands. Now, we need to adapt, we can't go back. (unless you wanna live with the amish)



Sure. If that suits your world view, deny reality. Deny patriarchy. Deny systemic oppression against women.
Sure.. Do that.

internet security, data protection guidelines and no nudity guidelines exist. YouTube and Google (AdSense) dont monetize sexual content.

So, again, morality and public acceptance comes first. Modernity needs to be acceptable, regularized and modified to public acceptance.

You are talking out of your ass. You dont even know what you are talking about at this point. You just want to keep on responding without caring how dumb you sound.
Stop pretending to be a scholar and go see a psychiatrist. He may help you to get out of this role playing character.

 

[Logiko]

internet security, data protection guidelines and no nudity guidelines exist. YouTube and Google (AdSense) dont monetize sexual content.

So, again, morality and public acceptance comes first. Modernity needs to be acceptable, regularized and modified to public acceptance.

You are talking out of your ass. You dont even know what you are talking about at this point. You just want to keep on responding without caring how dumb you sound.
Stop pretending to be a scholar and go see a psychiatrist. He may help you to get out of this role playing character.

As reactions*. Not as a prior guidelines.

My point is: society adapts to modernity, not the opposite.

So, again, morality and public acceptance comes first

So in that case, still no.

You are talking out of your ass.

Sure sure.

You dont even know what you are talking about at this point.

Sure sure.

You just want to keep on responding without caring how dumb you sound.

Well sure.. sure.

Stop pretending to be a scholar and go see a psychiatrist

Oh.. psychophobia. How peculiar. It's like.. all those toxic traits.. are meant to come as a package!

 

[notAfanboy]

As reactions*. Not as a prior guidelines.

My point is: society adapts to modernity, not the opposite.



So in that case, still no.



Sure sure.



Sure sure.



Well sure.. sure.



Oh.. psychophobia. How peculiar. It's like.. all those toxic traits.. are meant to come as a package!

What do you mean by prior guidelines?
Dumbfuck. Keep on adding more points to make yourself feel justified.
Its baffling.

Plus; Your statements are contradictory. Society adapts to modernity? Then why they added guidelines after reactions? Proves the point! society and moral values take priority!
Again, you are talking out of your ass and dont even know what you saying. How high are you?

 

[Logiko]

What do you mean by prior guidelines?
Dumbfuck. Keep on adding more points to make yourself feel justified.
Its baffling.

I mean that the reaction comes BEFORE the action.

This is a fundamental rules with modernity and with technological evolution. We do not create rule out of nothingness...

We adapt.

 

[notAfanboy]

I mean that the reaction comes BEFORE the action.

This is a fundamental rules with modernity and with technological evolution. We do not create rule out of nothingness...

We adapt.

No, we dont adapt. The modernity and technology adapt or modified according to societal and moral values.

Look at ChatGPT. It is being banned from school and colleges.

Proved wrong. Next?
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What do you mean by prior guidelines?
Dumbfuck. Keep on adding more points to make yourself feel justified.
Its baffling.

Plus; Your statements are contradictory. Society adapts to modernity? Then why they added guidelines after reactions? Proves the point! society and moral values take priority!
Again, you are talking out of your ass and dont even know what you saying. How high are you?

I edited the response, @CarrotForNakama

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Well.. not my fault if a lot of people here are using rethoric of the alt right..
Its just the testimony that the alt right is occupying the space right now.

Usually if you start talking about :
- "Woke"
- "People of fight the current thing"
- "Gender theories"
- If you are calling onlyfan girls /or twitch girls "hoes"
- If you are sharing things stuff or ideologies related to the daily Wire (Jordan P, Matt W & Ben S)

Then you are just sharing alt right rethoric meant to:
- Legiligitimize leftist struggles and movements for social justice
- Attack women and trans people
- Attack LGBTQ+ in large
- Promote sexist, masculinist, confusionnist and sometimes crypto fascist idea.

But hey.. you have your "free speech" so you do what you want (especially here). Just don't forget that I have mine too.

One of the few times I’m willing to back you up, makes me cringe so hard when people around here try to use rhetoric from Peterson the aging sock puppet/Walsh the bearded cunt/Shapiro the incontinent baby to defend their beliefs…if that’s the fucking company you keep, you deserve to be called much worse than “alt right”

 

[notAfanboy]

One of the few times I’m willing to back you up, makes me cringe so hard when people around here try to use rhetoric from Peterson the aging sock puppet/Walsh the bearded cunt/Shapiro the incontinent baby to defend their beliefs…if that’s the fucking company you keep, you deserve to be called much worse than “alt right”

The same can be said about you, for the people you follow or quote.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

The same can be said about you, for the people you follow or quote.

 

[Reborn]

for the people you follow

He follows me and seth :shame:

 

[Jew D. Boy]

He follows me and seth :shame:

I’d follow y’all off a cliff, as long as you both promise to go first

 

[Reborn]

I’d follow y’all off a cliff, as long as you both promise to go first

For you I will jump off the cliff first



*Goes onto push seth from behind to go first*

 

[Logiko]

No, we dont adapt. The modernity and technology adapt or modified according to societal and moral values.

Look at ChatGPT. It is being banned from school and colleges.

Proved wrong. Next?

Yes.. you just give me an evidence of how we adapt. Well done.

I edited the response, @CarrotForNakama

I think we are fighting for the wrong reason. I'm not saying that guidline and moral should not be applied. My point is that those come ONLY after the development of modernity (taht can be either a technology or a sociological data)

The point is:

There is no reason to adapt to Onlyfan beside the fact of taking it out of kids hands and regulating correctly the site. There is no ethical harm done to society so there is no reason to shame the usage of it.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

For you I will jump off the cliff first



*Goes onto push seth from behind to go first*

 

[Cross_Marian]

So according to C4N
- there’s no evil human in this world
- nudity in public is okay
- everyone is a sexist
- carrot should join the crew

okay

 

[NikaInParis]

- carrot should join the crew

That's by far the most radical view I've seen so far

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

No, we dont adapt. The modernity and technology adapt or modified according to societal and moral values.

Look at ChatGPT. It is being banned from school and colleges.

Proved wrong. Next

Ok
Now you adapt to the existence of onlyfans