Controversial General Political Discussion

[Gaimon The Pirate]

That's a myth.
Without a stable society and string morals humans do be greedy and murderous af. That's why social rules and laws are a thing

I agree.
When you create a small village the village is greedy outside and the opposite inside.
Any small community shares muxh more than wider human society.
We share with our friends but we hate sharing with the government.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I agree.
When you create a small village the village is greedy outside and the opposite inside.
Any small community shares muxh more than wider human society.
We share with our friends but we hate sharing with the government.

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[Ravagerblade]

Maybe I wasn't precise enough, I wasn't talking about individuals living on deserted islands, I did mean societies. In a self sufficient society with relatively flat hierarchy there are no "jobs" in the modern sense



Ppl can't go take existing words and redefine them as they please. I get it you want to be independent and not have authorities dictate your life but you fell into a trap here. This hyper emotionalism is not going to help you in any way. You're always on edge.

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Read my clarification :

Hilarious, because that's what the woke has been doing, redefining words, get fucked Lolis.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Humans regulate themselves just well. They don't need Estate. In fact Estate was what allowed slavery to happen in most part of our history. And using even using religion to justify. That human regulation you are calling here.

How is it possible to guarantee the existence of an institution called "private property" if there is no state?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Hilarious, because that's what the woke has been doing, redefining words, get fucked Lolis.

See that's what I am talking about. You're not even engaging my post and go straight to whataboutism "but but woke" and an insult as the cherry on top. Culture warrior

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

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What's wrong bunny
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How is it possible to guarantee the existence of an institution called "private property" if there is no state?

Violence

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Yeah no dude.

Humans regulate themselves just well. They don't need Estate. In fact Estate was what allowed slavery to happen in most part of our history. And using even using religion to justify. That human regulation you are calling here.

Hard disagree. Violent hordes without laws don't "regulate themselves". They'll concquer other groups and turn them into slaves

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Hard disagree. Violent hordes without laws don't "regulate themselves". They'll concquer other groups and turn them into slaves

Thats not the problem. The two scenarios can happen, regulation and conquer are both possible.
The real problem is that there is no guarantee that regulation and rights will be maintained

 

[Ravagerblade]

See that's what I am talking about. You're not even engaging my post and go straight to whataboutism "but but woke" and an insult as the cherry on top. Culture warrior

And you completely skip over what I say...
Until you make up for your bad faith bullshit... this is what you'll get from me.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

regulation and conquer are both possible.

And you completely skip over what I say...

What did I skip over that you said? Can you quote it?

 

[Etzel Andergast]

What's wrong bunny
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Violence

Thats why Max Weber defined the state as "legitimate monopoly on violence". The consequences of disobeying the rules (violence) is what guarantees the rights.

 

[Ravagerblade]

What did I skip over that you said? Can you quote it?

It was about you saying I'm redefining words. Look back.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It was about you saying I'm redefining words. Look back.

You said this after my post
Omg who hurt you?! You're always angry and aggressive

 

[AL sama]

I agree.
When you create a small village the village is greedy outside and the opposite inside.
Any small community shares muxh more than wider human society.
We share with our friends but we hate sharing with the government.

I know solis won't understand but you tell me can you really imagine a world where everyone is satisfied with what they have without going for more??

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I know solis won't but you tell me can you really imagine a world where everyone is satisfied with what they have without going for more??

Why are you changing the topic AL? This wasn't what we were talking about. You're aggressively pushing the narrative that humans are greedy and sociopathic by nature. What a pessimistic outlook on life!

 

[Ravagerblade]

You said this after my post
Omg who hurt you?! You're always angry and aggressive

Keep running away then.

 

[AL sama]

Why are you changing the topic AL? This wasn't what we were talking about. You're aggressively pushing the narrative that humans are greedy and sociopathic by nature. What a pessimistic outlook on life!

you need a reality check

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I know solis won't understand but you tell me can you really imagine a world where everyone is satisfied with what they have without going for more??

It's a mixture for both, and why large conglomerate of humans create hierarchies.
It's a long topic, but i believe solis and you are both right.
Greed create communities that are much less greedy within.
A family is not greedy towards each other, aftwr all.
You would not steal from your father.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

There are people that really believe that ALL people won't be greed and will be ALWAYS satisfied, only because a new form of society emerged

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

you need a reality check

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what I wrote: if humans went back to living in smaller self sufficient communities based on strong values, there would be a better life for everyone

what AL reads: "if humans went back to living in smaller self sufficient communities based on strong values, we can create an utopian Paradise on earth"

AL you can't deny that capitalistic society rewards anti social behavior and greed, children are taught to be consumers and to never be satisfied with what they have. Of course we are turning out greedy af! What are you expecting!? We are exposed to social engineering through television, movies, social media.
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There are people that really believe that ALL people won't be greed and will be ALWAYS satisfied, only because a new form of society emerged

This kind of thinking would be problematic. But I don't think this is what AL is talking about. He thinks ALL people are greedy pos