Controversial General Political Discussion

[Toby D. Dog]

Bob and Nameless are relevant in this thread .

They got low diffed by Mods .

Shameless self banned so he'll be back. Bobby's gone forever unless he comes back as an alt.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Shameless self banned so he'll be back. Bobby's gone forever unless he comes back as an alt.

It’s easy to recognize his posting style mods will track and ban him again .

 

[Toby D. Dog]

It’s easy to recognize his posting style mods will track and ban him again .

You took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[Mathias]

Some artists use AI for brainstorming
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Good artist.
Was also a rapist, sexual abuser and women harrasser.

Indeed but you are interested in his work right ? I met some people who didn’t want to make a stop at his museum in Paris because of that

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I used GPT-4 and Gemini , AI has long way to go especially I can’t really use Chaptgpt in myworkplace where critical based systems are used .

GPT 4 doesn’t follow ethics and standard it can be harmful if used in critical system like Automobile or healthcare .

 

[Malakhith]

I'm a fan of tabletop game and I rarely see bad art mate. You must be living in another world. Artists are usually quite qualified and competent in the artistic industry when they work.

Plus, this is really a niche content.

Im sure that you are crazy enough to ignore reality. Specially when my complaint was a indirect jab at Onix Path and their methods. Im sure that you didn't even bother to google people complaining about the shit art in their products.
If you deliberately ignore reality you will not lie when defending your point.

Which lead me to believe that you can't read a proper post.

Yeah, I'm sure that you can go to the post I replied and find the proof. It's not something in your head or anything.

No, not in my opinion. That's a basic fact mate.

Again, in your opinion. Specially in the market that I was talking to. Go to any /slop thread in TG and ask why they use it and plenty of people will say that the end result is better and faster than the actual professionals in the area.

Sure, go and tell people like Karla Ortiz

Can you please show proof that she shares prompts of other artists instead of focusing on her work? Because what you stated was that the ''artists'' would do that.

... That she is a failed artist... if you dare.

If she does what you stated? Yes.

Both are women Einstein.

That explains it. For someone that accused me of gas lighting, she loves to take comments out of context and dismiss arguments by insulting the person or directly lying. Those fallacies are usually done by woman or men trying (and failing) to be woman.

He thinks all men love war and if someone doesn't love war they can't be a man typical masculinism

Can you please find a post of mine that even hints at that? Or that I love war at all?

 

[Ravagerblade]

AI is fine up until a certain point, and when it's taking away from skilled humans, is definitely past the line, imo.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

AI is fine up until a certain point, and when it's taking away from skilled humans, is definitely past the line, imo.

That's a silly argument.
Photography took away from skilled humans, Cinematography too.
Printing took away from skilled humans.
The invention of any piece of technology made humans obsolete.

 

[Ravagerblade]

That's a silly argument.
Photography took away from skilled humans, Cinematography too.
Printing took away from skilled humans.
The invention of any piece of technology made humans obsolete.

I said to a certain extent iirc. You cannot like my argument, idc I'm to busy to go into specifics... but AI can be useful just as well. I'm just saying that going to far with it is not right.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Just waiting for John Connor to declare war on Machines . I am joining him the day Skynet revolts against us Humans .

 

[Zenos7]

That's a silly argument.
Photography took away from skilled humans, Cinematography too.
Printing took away from skilled humans.
The invention of any piece of technology made humans obsolete.

and its fine if humans are made obsolete. eventually we will just need to give out UBI though

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I said to a certain extent iirc. You cannot like my argument, idc I'm to busy to go into specifics... but AI can be useful just as well. I'm just saying that going to far with it is not right.

Without specifics and "too far", if you make a point make it clear, because this vagueness means nothing.
Too much medicine is bad.. Everything in excess is bad, no shit.
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and its fine if humans are made obsolete. eventually we will just need to give out UBI though

Did Photography make painting disappear?
Humans will still be the initiators of the operas, and AI, just like a pen, a tool.

 

[Mathias]

Did Photography make painting disappear?

I can agree with some of your post, but are paintings as popular as they used to be though ?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I can agree with some of your post, but are paintings as popular as they used to be though ?

Do we have patrons that pay people to do nothing but paint under their tutelage?
We forget that the art that we see today in museums is not a randos that did it after he worked in the mill in 99 cases over a 100, but millionaire artists paid by billionaires. Popes, Rich families and so on, at least for the start.
When art started becoming more "figurative" it started to become more approachable to the masses for a thousand reasons.
But all the reinassance and most of the most famous work of arts made by humankind, were made under tutelage.

 

[Mathias]

Do we have patrons that pay people to do nothing but paint under their tutelage?
We forget that the art that we see today in museums is not a randos that did it after he worked in the mill in 99 cases over a 100, but millionaire artists paid by billionaires. Popes, Rich families and so on, at least for the start.
When art started becoming more "figurative" it started to become more approachable to the masses for a thousand reasons.
But all the reinassance and most of the most famous work of arts made by humankind, were made under tutelage.

Millionaire artists lmfao

And your post doesn’t answer my question that is « are paintings really as huge as they were before the industrialisation of cameras »

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

There are concerns in the writing community about AI. Not too long ago KDP set rules to help fight against it. The market is being flooded with low content and even novels created by AI. They set rules where you have to identify if you used AI in creation. Book cover creators have taken a hit because so many people are opting to use AI-created covers instead of paying a person to create one for them.

In general, the products by AI aren't as well created or written as that of people, but it still causes an issue because of the massive amount flooding the industry. It's hard to find a great creation of a person when no one is going through hundreds of published works to find legit authors.

I can't predict the future, but in the short term, AI seems to hurt people and the act of creation overall.

It hurts the audience too. We have already gone from active to passive art consumption decades ago and now commercialization removed the creative act even on the side of the creator. Ai art is going to be even more life- and soulless than the gazillion stories on the market that are solely produced for making money. In a way ai art is just a logical continuation of what we've been doing for the past decades through movies and TV or maybe even earlier.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Millionaire artists lmfao

And your post doesn’t answer my question that is « are paintings really as huge as they were before the industrialisation of cameras »

Art will make a great comeback but in current digital age it’s tough time to be artist .

I don’t think we will have like Picasso or such in near future in the current world if you don’t do 9-5 job you will end up homeless/broke.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I used GPT-4 and Gemini , AI has long way to go especially I can’t really use Chaptgpt in myworkplace where critical based systems are used .


GPT 4 doesn’t follow ethics and standard it can be harmful if used in critical system like Automobile or healthcare .

We don't need ai to make unethical decisions in healthcare, greedy humans are doing just fine

That's a silly argument.

Photography took away from skilled humans, Cinematography too.

Printing took away from skilled humans.

The invention of any piece of technology made humans obsolete.

When humans are obsolete in society then what do we even do? How do we live? Are we supposed to live at all when we're "obsolete"? What value do our lives have when we're "obsolete"?! What are we still good for and who decides it?
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Art will make a great comeback but in current digital age it’s tough time to be artist .

I don’t think we will have like Picasso or such in near future in the current world if you don’t do 9-5 job you will end up homeless/broke.

The only way to defeat ai is the destruction of current society or at least all vital servers have to go down and energy supply has to be cut off.

 

[Zemmi]

It hurts the audience too. We have already gone from active to passive art consumption decades ago and now commercialization removed the creative act even on the side of the creator. Ai art is going to be even more life- and soulless than the gazillion stories on the market that are solely produced for making money. In a way ai art is just a logical continuation of what we've been doing for the past decades through movies and TV or maybe even earlier.

I think it was amazon/audible, but they are working up something where they will turn your book into an audiobook with AI technology.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I think it was amazon/audible, but they are working up something where they will turn your book into an audiobook with AI technology.