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You are missunderstanding me. I'm not saying that we shouldn't laugh about tragedies (if you are part of the community who tanked the tragedy, its perfectly legitimate to exorcize the pain), what I'm saying is that laughing about the tragedy about people who are still under oppressions, like Jews or muslim for example, is easy and simply bad humor when done in with inequivalency and other type of humor or done by illegitimate people.
What is truly groundbreaking on the other hand, is to laugh about those who create those tragedies in the first place or those who participate in those oppression. In short, those who have the power.
But yeah, if you want to talk about random stuff, have fun. Just know that once you start talking about a political subject, it becomes a political act.
Indeed, and dark humor when done right takes the times to adress the structures of dominations and/or denounces a situation. Dark humor when done well is also political.
Sure.
If we can laugh about everything, there is no reason why we can't laugh about those subjects. Unless you are saying that you have a limit ?
Those poor vets.. forced to go to war...
What is truly groundbreaking on the other hand, is to laugh about those who create those tragedies in the first place or those who participate in those oppression. In short, those who have the power.
But yeah, if you want to talk about random stuff, have fun. Just know that once you start talking about a political subject, it becomes a political act.
Indeed, and dark humor when done right takes the times to adress the structures of dominations and/or denounces a situation. Dark humor when done well is also political.
Sure.
If we can laugh about everything, there is no reason why we can't laugh about those subjects. Unless you are saying that you have a limit ?
Those poor vets.. forced to go to war...
If you don’t like it that’s fine, but to act like it’s not a staple of humor is ridiculous
No. The reasoning is logical. When bad people want to do bad things you want to know what the other people's response will be and he's not afraid of Biden. I mean Putin can still talk in full sentences....Biden not so much. I mean the highest expectation the world has for Biden is he has a pulse. That's a very low bar. That's why he's a joke not only to Russia but almost every other country.
No, and I didn't miss the part when you ask me to not be a "b*tch"
but what do you suggest we do about "Jokes" you deem offensive or "attacking" the oppressed?
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also, did you by any chance watch the vid i shared? and if so, can you tell me the political intent of every joke in there? since you suggested that jokes are always political or something along that line
But that’s not how I see here in Ground reality it’s fact Biden responded fast and Putin who expected Kiev to fall in 2 weeks and war is ongoing .
I think you saw Tucker’s interview , Putin likes to spin and sugarcoat laced with his own facts .
Again I certainly overall agree Biden is no longer suitable for office . He certainly needs to retire but it looks like he is planning to raise Kamala Harris as successor I certainly think she is not suitable to be president.
But surely come on Trump has historically had business ties with Russia which republicans have so far chose to ignore but again I hope he doesn’t play into Vlad’s hand when he becomes President .
I think you saw Tucker’s interview , Putin likes to spin and sugarcoat laced with his own facts .
Again I certainly overall agree Biden is no longer suitable for office . He certainly needs to retire but it looks like he is planning to raise Kamala Harris as successor I certainly think she is not suitable to be president.
But surely come on Trump has historically had business ties with Russia which republicans have so far chose to ignore but again I hope he doesn’t play into Vlad’s hand when he becomes President .
I did see that clip when he said that. I'm not a huge fan of Tucker but I did watch the first part of his interview with Chris Cuomo this morning and enjoyed seeing two people with such different views, laughing like friends.
I think you keep side-stepping the fact that this would've never happened if Trump was in office—no—if anyone else was in office besides Biden and his like-minded people. That is the actual reality of the situation. Though if people like people in office who always have conflicts under their watch. I guess I can see how people might think his response was great. This is making a fortune for our weapon makers. Which is what American is great for, investing in conflicts for oil and to make money off these events. So, yes I guess Biden's administration is happy with the outcome.
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Nothing to see here- Raytheon contributed half a million dollars to Biden's campaign. I wonder who makes most of these weapons we send/sell to people. Raytheon.
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I'm gonna leave this sexy white man here. I find him very intelligent and even though I don't always agree with him. He always makes me think.
I think you keep side-stepping the fact that this would've never happened if Trump was in office—no—if anyone else was in office besides Biden and his like-minded people. That is the actual reality of the situation. Though if people like people in office who always have conflicts under their watch. I guess I can see how people might think his response was great. This is making a fortune for our weapon makers. Which is what American is great for, investing in conflicts for oil and to make money off these events. So, yes I guess Biden's administration is happy with the outcome.
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Nothing to see here- Raytheon contributed half a million dollars to Biden's campaign. I wonder who makes most of these weapons we send/sell to people. Raytheon.
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I'm gonna leave this sexy white man here. I find him very intelligent and even though I don't always agree with him. He always makes me think.
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No one is attacking dark humor. Dark humor can be done right, but this is not something that can be done well by anyone.
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Criticize them. Explain why its easy, most of the time oppressive and not really qualitative to laugh at the expense of the oppressed and why laughing about people in power ia a much more couragous and tricky thing to do.
Choices of jokes talking ABOUT oppressed people are political not random jokes about random stuff, I didn't see only those kind of joke there. There could be multiple reason, here it could be to push the limit of what is acceptable for example.
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Criticize them. Explain why its easy, most of the time oppressive and not really qualitative to laugh at the expense of the oppressed and why laughing about people in power ia a much more couragous and tricky thing to do.
Choices of jokes talking ABOUT oppressed people are political not random jokes about random stuff, I didn't see only those kind of joke there. There could be multiple reason, here it could be to push the limit of what is acceptable for example.
You wouldn't believe for how many people killing and committing genocide is not the incentive to join the army, their main focus eventually is job security and pay and they try tob dissociate from the fact they're harming real human beings. Gets even easier if the targets have a different religion and/or appearance.
I would hope no one's intention of joining their country's military is the purpose of killing and would hope it is a desire to defend their country and the things they believe in. I get the job security, etc. as well, but it's reasonable to assume if you sign up you might be sent into war. So, anyone who signs up without understanding that is possible, might not be very smart.