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Man said history class, the irony. Everyone and their mamas know they teach jack about history in school, especially pre college. This explains your ignorance on occupied Palestine tho lol.
Man said history class, the irony. Everyone and their mamas know they teach jack about history in school, especially pre college. This explains your ignorance on occupied Palestine tho lol.
Taking positions like that is tantamount to ignorance on it as a whole regardless. The reality is that what you have there is one of the last colonization projects in the world and an active apartheid. I’m not one that likes to use these charged terms but it’s simply the reality. Acting like there’s an equal tit for tat going on couldn’t be more telling of ignorance.
Where did I even say that?
Where did I even say that?Strictly talking about the local Palestinians from then till now, they’ve either been unarmed (as was the case in the beginning, look at the Deir Yasin massacre) or ill equipped in most other cases. Countries have jumped in to support their resistance but they were defeated and eventually normalized (Jordan, Eygpt) before they could even accomplish anything. The other Arab countries fell into their own chaos. The local populace have been otherwise resisting mostly by themselves and have not been successful in the face of the far more powerful occupier who’s been routinely armed to the teeth by the West.
On the other hand we got the most ahistorical take on your end:
According to Merriam Websters
Where is the tit for tat in all of this:
On the other hand we got the most ahistorical take on your end:
According to Merriam Websters
Where is the tit for tat in all of this:
But this is outright wrong. The local Palestinians were provided weapons by the nations who governed them(ones I mentioned earlier) and by proxy by both the soviets and the west.
Egypt and Jordan weren't fighting wars on behalf of the Palestinians, they were fighting WITH them.
Ahistorical?
yes tit for tat lmao. Inforgraphics from Al Jazeera? seriously man? it doesn't get more propagandistic than that
Egypt and Jordan weren't fighting wars on behalf of the Palestinians, they were fighting WITH them.
On the other hand we got the most ahistorical take on your end:
According to Merriam Websters
Where is the tit for tat in all of this:
According to Merriam Websters
Where is the tit for tat in all of this:
yes tit for tat lmao. Inforgraphics from Al Jazeera? seriously man? it doesn't get more propagandistic than that
But this is outright wrong. The local Palestinians were provided weapons by the nations who governed them(ones I mentioned earlier) and by proxy by both the soviets and the west.
Egypt and Jordan weren't fighting wars on behalf of the Palestinians, they were fighting WITH them.
Ahistorical?
yes tit for tat lmao. Inforgraphics from Al Jazeera? seriously man? it doesn't get more propagandistic than that
Egypt and Jordan weren't fighting wars on behalf of the Palestinians, they were fighting WITH them.
Ahistorical?
yes tit for tat lmao. Inforgraphics from Al Jazeera? seriously man? it doesn't get more propagandistic than that
And @Toby D. Dog was saying this was the “enlightened centrist” position lmao y’all got me weak out here for such a serious issue. Convinent how you only pull up a Wikipedia list of mostly minor clashes in the 30s in response and ignore the rest of what happened afterwards. These very clashes are as a result of Europeans occupying their land to begin with. Don’t give me that cop out this is all sourced and backed go read what Ilan Pappe, a Israeli historian has to say surely he ain’t as “propagandistic” lol. And @Toby D. Dog was saying this was the “enlightened centrist” position lmao y’all got me weak out here for such a serious issue. Convinent how you only pull up a Wikipedia list of mostly minor clashes in the 30s in response and ignore the rest of what happened afterwards. These very clashes are as a result of Europeans occupying their land to begin with. Don’t give me that cop out this is all sourced and backed go read what Ilan Pappe, a Israeli historian has to say surely he ain’t as “propagandistic” lol.
And @Toby D. Dog was saying this was the “enlightened centrist” position lmao y’all got me weak out here for such a serious issue. Convinent how you only pull up a Wikipedia list of mostly minor clashes in the 30s in response and ignore the rest of what happened afterwards. These very clashes are as a result of Europeans occupying their land to begin with. Don’t give me that cop out this is all sourced and backed go read what Ilan Pappe, a Israeli historian has to say surely he ain’t as “propagandistic” lol.
And @Toby D. Dog was saying this was the “enlightened centrist” position lmao y’all got me weak out here for such a serious issue.
It's called using your brain and not being driven by ideology.
bruh it's not "convenient", it's literally the record of massacres in mandatory palestine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine
It is tit for tat is they're both attacking each other.
Yes, a guy known for being insanely pro palestinian lmao.
What is propagandistic is the painting here. "poor palestinian getting killed for no reason" when a quickly google search shows they were both attacking each other
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bruh I don't think that's the shining endorsement you think it is
Tiktoker? I never downloaded that Chinese app, don’t take me for one of those people just because I called you out for your ahistorical nonsense lol.Roo when provided with facts about the colonization of Palestinians “That’s Pro Palestinian Propaganda!”
What’s next?
The UN is pro Palestinian with all of their condemnatory statements regarding Israel?
Was the Balfour Declaration pro Palestinian?
So when the Europeans started settling in their land were they attacked by Palestinians prior?
Tiktoker? I never downloaded that Chinese app, don’t take me for one of those people just because I called you out for your ahistorical nonsense lol.Roo when provided with facts about the colonization of Palestinians “That’s Pro Palestinian Propaganda!”
What’s next?
The UN is pro Palestinian with all of their condemnatory statements regarding Israel?
Was the Balfour Declaration pro Palestinian?
So when the Europeans started settling in their land were they attacked by Palestinians prior?
…is what I would say if I were a bigot and raging racist
Tiktoker? I never downloaded that Chinese app, don’t take me for one of those people just because I called you out for your ahistorical nonsense lol.
I literally provided records. Posting emotes won't really help your case.
???
We are talking about the violence. You provided an infographic that was propagandistic. it literally paints the violence on one side, I pointed out that no, they've been killing each other for a while.
and yes, Pappe has been criticized for being extremely biased.
You bolded "Israeli Historian" as if it was supposed to make him unbiased but the reality is he probably has bias against early israelis.
it's like me quoting an anti palestinian historian to paint the palestinians as savages or something
what the fuck are you babbling about lmao, fighting ghost over there?
You do realize you could have 2 thoughts at the same time right?
Palestinians were violently rejecting the jewish settlers, the jewish settlers attacked back
oh no, is that what we call...tit for tat???
People who think that there’s an equivalent distribution of violence and war between both sides will always sound bigoted when confronted with the bloody reality.
Man talking about propagandistic…Adam Raz and the Haaretz couldn’t be more propagandistic for the Israeli Zionist narrative. Give me a source that’s unbiased and not anti-Palestinian, you not even holding up to your own lame standards lol. No part of your argument has been “nuanced” so far, the fact that you seem to be clueless about the Balfour Declaration says it all.
At first they weren’t, the locals actually opened their doors out of hospitality. Things went violent when terrorist gangs like the Irgun started forming and killing people and when the locals realized there was a whole colonist ploy to displace them from their own homeland. Where are the numerous massacres, displacements and occupation of the Israelis by the local Palestinian populace in the “tit for tat” between them?
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Ayo if THIS is the “enlightened” centrist position then Murica is doomed not that Murica wasn’t already on the decline. Even normies know about what’s been happening.
Ahistorical? I don't think you know what that word means lol
I literally provided records. Posting emotes won't really help your case.
???
We are talking about the violence. You provided an infographic that was propagandistic. it literally paints the violence on one side, I pointed out that no, they've been killing each other for a while.
and yes, Pappe has been criticized for being extremely biased.
You bolded "Israeli Historian" as if it was supposed to make him unbiased but the reality is he probably has bias against early israelis.
it's like me quoting an anti palestinian historian to paint the palestinians as savages or something
what the fuck are you babbling about lmao, fighting ghost over there?
You do realize you could have 2 thoughts at the same time right?
Palestinians were violently rejecting the jewish settlers, the jewish settlers attacked back
oh no, is that what we call...tit for tat???
I literally provided records. Posting emotes won't really help your case.
???
We are talking about the violence. You provided an infographic that was propagandistic. it literally paints the violence on one side, I pointed out that no, they've been killing each other for a while.
and yes, Pappe has been criticized for being extremely biased.
You bolded "Israeli Historian" as if it was supposed to make him unbiased but the reality is he probably has bias against early israelis.
it's like me quoting an anti palestinian historian to paint the palestinians as savages or something
what the fuck are you babbling about lmao, fighting ghost over there?
You do realize you could have 2 thoughts at the same time right?
Palestinians were violently rejecting the jewish settlers, the jewish settlers attacked back
oh no, is that what we call...tit for tat???
At first they weren’t, the locals actually opened their doors out of hospitality. Things went violent when terrorist gangs like the Irgun started forming and killing people and when the locals realized there was a whole colonist ploy to displace them from their own homeland. Where are the numerous massacres, displacements and occupation of the Israelis by the local Palestinian populace in the “tit for tat” between them?
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Ayo if THIS is the “enlightened” centrist position then Murica is doomed not that Murica wasn’t already on the decline. Even normies know about what’s been happening.
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