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Do as you please my man. You’re wasting your life away having these delusions about this forum, which I find genuinely sad. Hopefully you can start realizing that and put your time into something that actually makes a positive impact irl, cuz this ain’t it brother.
Remember something tho. So far, I’m one of the only users who actually gives you the benefit of the doubt, 85% of these guys never do that. So I don’t agree with your assessment when you say I’m “extremely rude,” cuz I’ve defended you in the past when I thought you were right.
Remember something tho. So far, I’m one of the only users who actually gives you the benefit of the doubt, 85% of these guys never do that. So I don’t agree with your assessment when you say I’m “extremely rude,” cuz I’ve defended you in the past when I thought you were right.
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Here is a recap.
I dropped most of the skepticism toward feminism, although I still don't think that women have been undernourished for thousands of years by men resulting in a lower height.
I think psychoanalysis is a good theory of the mind, but not so sure about its practical theory.
I think political correctness doesn't exist. But I do think that there are people who think themselves highly and pure because of leftism/progressism.
Meritocracy obviously never existed but there is somewhat of a will in people depending on many things. I mostly don't believe much in free-will.
Generally speaking, I don't think that "ignoring" the past of a transgender male/female is necessarily transphobic. I just think it's nicer to refer to people with their new pronouns. Still couldn't figure out about non-binarity very well but I'll eventually make my way there I guess lol.
I don't know for sure and wouldn't be able to answer completely with a single argument, but I feel like I already gave an answer once by stating that the surge of people making video essays on youtube and trying to simplify already simple points made me cringe
And the whole "let's learn by having fun" vibe
All of this aside, you've made yourself known for talking ONLY about feminism for THOUSANDS OF PAGES
I dropped most of the skepticism toward feminism, although I still don't think that women have been undernourished for thousands of years by men resulting in a lower height.
I think psychoanalysis is a good theory of the mind, but not so sure about its practical theory.
I think political correctness doesn't exist. But I do think that there are people who think themselves highly and pure because of leftism/progressism.
Meritocracy obviously never existed but there is somewhat of a will in people depending on many things. I mostly don't believe much in free-will.
Generally speaking, I don't think that "ignoring" the past of a transgender male/female is necessarily transphobic. I just think it's nicer to refer to people with their new pronouns. Still couldn't figure out about non-binarity very well but I'll eventually make my way there I guess lol.
I don't know for sure and wouldn't be able to answer completely with a single argument, but I feel like I already gave an answer once by stating that the surge of people making video essays on youtube and trying to simplify already simple points made me cringe
And the whole "let's learn by having fun" vibe
All of this aside, you've made yourself known for talking ONLY about feminism for THOUSANDS OF PAGES
There is no delusions, I actually believe that we can make this forum a better place. What you don't understand is that its not about the forum (at least not entierely), its about the political impact we can have against bigoted, apolitical, confusionnist and liberals ideas.
This forum, like many apolitical forums, is - again - the representation of a mini society. If we manage to make this forum a better place by reducing the toxicity and upping the positivity and the political knowledge (which have very little chances to actually happen), it could say a lot about the political impact that we could have in society against hegemonic and toxic political ideologies.
This is an experimentation for me, not a purposeless fight. And this fight is real, its not a virtual battle.
Dude, if you are a leftist, its not the benefit of the doubt that you should give me, its support. I could understand that in another context in a real leftist environment, we could have actual points of contention, after all as the saying goes: "there is no greater ennemy to a leftist than another leftist", but we are not in a context that permits us militant purity, we need to fight the common BS ideology of the other side.
So yes, I'm explaining and not discussing with people. Simply because I believe that talking with the far right and BS is aknowledging and legitimating it and I refuse to do that. Also I have said absolutely NOTHING really radical or debatable on a leftist point of view here, all of the things are supported by actual evidences or militantism reality.
So let's chill.. Don't attack me for no reason and I won't in return and don't equate me to the far right BSter here, that would be a minimum.
If we want progress, we need to fight together, not eachothers.
I'm not a specialist of the subject but I think we have found evidences of women having the same body structure as men in the pre-neolothic era. Although you might be right, I don't think its because of malnourishment but rather because of the system and structure of power that pushed men to selectively choose women with less and less hight. (but again, I'm not a specialist on the subject, this might be a big error I'm making)
That's not wrong, there is indeed a problem with militant purity in leftism yes.
I'll try to find some ressources in french for you to understand the problem, because (at least in France) there is really a problem with psychoanalysis.
Non binarity is indeed a difficult subject to understand when we are not familiar with it, it took me a few years to graps it. I suggest you watch this video of Anthony Padilla where he speaks with non binary people. If that's not enough, tell me, I might need to add something more indeed, I really didn't spend to much time on the subject. So there is very few content in the library about the subject.
I see, yeah I can understand. Sadly that one of the best way to vulgarize those subject, people don't really like to read book of sociology about the problem (me included hehe)
But you do agree with the points made tho ? I mean, you understand the purpose of those videos (even if you don't like video essay) ?
Well... no one is doing that so...
Fair, this was a chip shot.
This forum, like many apolitical forums, is - again - the representation of a mini society. If we manage to make this forum a better place by reducing the toxicity and upping the positivity and the political knowledge (which have very little chances to actually happen), it could say a lot about the political impact that we could have in society against hegemonic and toxic political ideologies.
This is an experimentation for me, not a purposeless fight. And this fight is real, its not a virtual battle.
Dude, if you are a leftist, its not the benefit of the doubt that you should give me, its support. I could understand that in another context in a real leftist environment, we could have actual points of contention, after all as the saying goes: "there is no greater ennemy to a leftist than another leftist", but we are not in a context that permits us militant purity, we need to fight the common BS ideology of the other side.
So yes, I'm explaining and not discussing with people. Simply because I believe that talking with the far right and BS is aknowledging and legitimating it and I refuse to do that. Also I have said absolutely NOTHING really radical or debatable on a leftist point of view here, all of the things are supported by actual evidences or militantism reality.
So let's chill.. Don't attack me for no reason and I won't in return and don't equate me to the far right BSter here, that would be a minimum.
If we want progress, we need to fight together, not eachothers.
I'm not a specialist of the subject but I think we have found evidences of women having the same body structure as men in the pre-neolothic era. Although you might be right, I don't think its because of malnourishment but rather because of the system and structure of power that pushed men to selectively choose women with less and less hight. (but again, I'm not a specialist on the subject, this might be a big error I'm making)
That's not wrong, there is indeed a problem with militant purity in leftism yes.
I'll try to find some ressources in french for you to understand the problem, because (at least in France) there is really a problem with psychoanalysis.
Non binarity is indeed a difficult subject to understand when we are not familiar with it, it took me a few years to graps it. I suggest you watch this video of Anthony Padilla where he speaks with non binary people. If that's not enough, tell me, I might need to add something more indeed, I really didn't spend to much time on the subject. So there is very few content in the library about the subject.
And the whole "let's learn by having fun" vibe
But you do agree with the points made tho ? I mean, you understand the purpose of those videos (even if you don't like video essay) ?
Well... no one is doing that so...
Fair, this was a chip shot.
I understand that people on the conservative and confusionnist side don't get that, but attacking a political ally in front of the opposition in leftism is considered as a mistake. Not because we are the political side that don't want critics on ourselves (we are actually the side that criticized itself the most, you should see a battle between anarchist, troskysts, lenninist and reformists..) but because we have less power in society. Therefore attacking ourselves when we need to be united is destroying our fight.
Yup I agree, other species can have a social behaviors that impact their biology.
Yup I agree, other species can have a social behaviors that impact their biology.
You didn't understand - and I'm not surprised - Its not about disagreements, its about unity in front of oppression. If you knew leftism, you would know that this is the political side with the most disagreement possible, people actually went to war because of those disagreements. What I'm talking about here is the duty to stay united in front of oppression.
Also if you are equating an environment without conservatism or BS far right or liberal ideologies to an echo chamber, you understood nothing. We just want to get rid of oppression to get to the real debate. Right now, your side is preventing us from doing that.
Also if you are equating an environment without conservatism or BS far right or liberal ideologies to an echo chamber, you understood nothing. We just want to get rid of oppression to get to the real debate. Right now, your side is preventing us from doing that.
"If you knew this"
bruh I was literally teaching you about communism a few months back lol. I 100% know way more about communism in theory, practice and historically than you.
Anyways my point is that you want blind loyalty and that is just not productive to a good coalition. Let's say for example a loud minority of leftist think that actually murdering right wingers is a good idea, and start voicing that opinion. Are leftist not allowed to tell them to stfu or distance themselves from it?
bruh I was literally teaching you about communism a few months back lol. I 100% know way more about communism in theory, practice and historically than you.
Anyways my point is that you want blind loyalty and that is just not productive to a good coalition. Let's say for example a loud minority of leftist think that actually murdering right wingers is a good idea, and start voicing that opinion. Are leftist not allowed to tell them to stfu or distance themselves from it?
I'm not debating the fact that you know more, I'm saying that if you have knowledge, you are really doing a poor job at showing it
Again no. I don't care about loyalty, what I want is unity. Against confusionnist for example.
Of course, but we are not talking here about a political discourse, we are talking about going against oppression and murder.
Here you are equating my desire for unity between people with different political leftist viewpoint with a desire of unity between political militants and murderers... that's nonsence.
Again no. I don't care about loyalty, what I want is unity. Against confusionnist for example.
Of course, but we are not talking here about a political discourse, we are talking about going against oppression and murder.
Here you are equating my desire for unity between people with different political leftist viewpoint with a desire of unity between political militants and murderers... that's nonsence.
I'm not debating the fact that you know more, I'm saying that if you have knowledge, you are really doing a poor job at showing it
Again no. I don't care about loyalty, what I want is unity. Against confusionnist for example.
Of course, but we are not talking here about a political discourse, we are talking about going against oppression.
Here you are equating my desire for unity between people with different political leftist viewpoint with a desire of unity between political militants and murderers... that's nonsence.
Again no. I don't care about loyalty, what I want is unity. Against confusionnist for example.
Of course, but we are not talking here about a political discourse, we are talking about going against oppression.
Here you are equating my desire for unity between people with different political leftist viewpoint with a desire of unity between political militants and murderers... that's nonsence.
anways comparisons are not “equating” I can compare apples and oranges because they’re different,
Comparison are a way to equate subjects when the goal is to find similarities yes.
Its actually one of the tool of confusionnists, comparing far leftism with far rightism as if there was any comparison to be made.
There is absolutely nothing wrong in the way I act. I've stated since the beginning that I'm not here to discuss but to explain. This does not mean that I'm always right so when I'm wrong, I'm aknowlodging it. For example (to stay on the subject), I was wrong to separate socialism and communism last year.
While I can understand that the way I talk can be frustrating (since I'm mostly in the position of explanation and therefore authority), people who think they are morally superior because they are not doing what I do are delulu .
Both actually. This is a complexe phenomenon. In this case, the dismophism can be explained by the social behavior of animals (including human) although I might need to find some researches on the subject, I'm not sure of what I'm stating here.
Its actually one of the tool of confusionnists, comparing far leftism with far rightism as if there was any comparison to be made.
There is absolutely nothing wrong in the way I act. I've stated since the beginning that I'm not here to discuss but to explain. This does not mean that I'm always right so when I'm wrong, I'm aknowlodging it. For example (to stay on the subject), I was wrong to separate socialism and communism last year.
While I can understand that the way I talk can be frustrating (since I'm mostly in the position of explanation and therefore authority), people who think they are morally superior because they are not doing what I do are delulu .
Both actually. This is a complexe phenomenon. In this case, the dismophism can be explained by the social behavior of animals (including human) although I might need to find some researches on the subject, I'm not sure of what I'm stating here.
