Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

why didn't i think of that

Victims of crime in countries that don't prosecute such crime should do the same. For example r*pe victims in South Korea. That country's laws are completely insane, the only way to get justice is resorting to vigilante justice but many victims hate themselves so they'll never realize.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Reminds me of something my mum told me like 14 years ago.

She said: "There is more coverage of pedos and kidnappers these days, but when I was young, it was a lot more prevalent. Parents who are keeping their kids indoors in fear of the 'rising crime rate' are the same ones who grew up with their nana telling them to avoid the nonce down the street."

It's a different country, but I think this is probably true with gun crime as well. The free-access we have to information now as opposed to the past means any incident will be brought to the attention of the public. However, it's possible that incidents of gun crime were more prevalent in the past, it's just we had no means of learning about them.

The media makes money off tragedy and controversy. What's juicier than a story of a teen shooting up a school, or a mentally ill person shooting up a parade? All it does it make the anxious folk of the world feel they are living in the darkest period of history. They demand ridiculous changes, not realising that crime has and always will exist.

We cannot complete erase the circumstances that breed criminality. Depriving people of guns just makes them helpless, be it against their would-be attackers, or their own government.

Hence why the MSM is the enemy of the people.

 

[NAMELESS]

You don't like SMART tech either?

Unfortunately, the world doesn't work like that. Too many people sympathise with criminals these days. If I beat up a man for trying to rape a woman, I do not doubt that I'd be dragged through the court of public opinion as a monster, especially if the criminal had any identifiable "protected" characteristics.

People are very soft towards criminals these days, I feel. If I, god forbid, killed a man in the defence of another (and you better believe I would if it was for my wife or our future kids), there would be so many arguments about "proportionality."

There is a famous case a Swedish friend of mine told me. There was a man whose home was being attacked by five people. He shot and killed one of them. The judge, in the trial asked: "Did you tell them politely to stop?" As if that would have been a solution to anything. I feel so many people these days would ask similar questions. "Why didn't you stop attacking when you knew they were down?" the obvious answer is: "I don't know what will happen if they suddenly get up." Unfortunately, people do not empathise with the defender in these situations a lot of the time.

AL deleted my post, but i shared a link here with a scene from American Horror Story where a kid tries to stop a mass shooter by speaking to him. He ate some buckshot and the killings kept going.
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Victims of crime in countries that don't prosecute such crime should do the same. For example r*pe victims in South Korea. That country's laws are completely insane, the only way to get justice is resorting to vigilante justice but many victims hate themselves so they'll never realize.

oh boy,i could go to jail here by saying something like that lol

 

[Okamakama]

AL deleted my post, but i shared a link here with a scene from American Horror Story where a kid tries to stop a mass shooter by speaking to him. He ate some buckshot and the killings kept going.

Appropriate violence is sometimes the only possible response in the face of such evil. You cannot talk some people down - You can only take them down. It's genuinely saddening because I'd like to believe in a world where violence is not necessary at all, but it will never be the case. It's why I believe all men should learn how to fight. I think there are so many cowardly males now who would just let a woman be assaulted and watch on without getting involved...
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Victims of crime in countries that don't prosecute such crime should do the same. For example r*pe victims in South Korea. That country's laws are completely insane, the only way to get justice is resorting to vigilante justice but many victims hate themselves so they'll never realize.

Can you share your knowledge about the crazy laws in SK? My mother-in-law lives there, and my wife has mentioned wanting us to move there one day (it's one of the main reasons I'm learning Korean). Would be good to know these things.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Unfortunately, the world doesn't work like that. Too many people sympathise with criminals these days. If I beat up a man for trying to rape a woman, I do not doubt that I'd be dragged through the court of public opinion as a monster, especially if the criminal had any identifiable "protected" characteristics.

That's why I'm saying BECOME the criminal.

Unfortunately, people do not empathise with the defender in these situations a lot of the time.

The consensus nowadays is that using violence to defend against violence makes you just as bad as the attacker. They expect us to be like the guy from Nazareth and show the other cheek.

oh boy,i could go to jail here by saying something like that lol

My post was black humor and satire.

It's why I believe all men should learn how to fight. I think there are so many cowardly males now who would just let a woman be assaulted and watch on without getting involved.

As a woman, I'd rather have the right to carry a gun.

 

[NAMELESS]

Appropriate violence is sometimes the only possible response in the face of such evil. You cannot talk some people down - You can only take them down. It's genuinely saddening because I'd like to believe in a world where violence is not necessary at all, but it will never be the case. It's why I believe all men should learn how to fight. I think there are so many cowardly males now who would just let a woman be assaulted and watch on without getting involved...

Agreed 100%. People confuse weakness with being good. Most people don't do shit, cause they are too afraid and weak to do anything. Good people are strong. An mma fighter/military guy that is a gentleman is real good guy.

 

[Okamakama]

That's why I'm saying BECOME the criminal.

The consensus nowadays is that using violence to defend against violence makes you just as bad as the attacker. They expect us to be like the guy from Nazareth and show the other cheek.

My post was black humor and satire.

As a woman, I'd rather have the right to carry a gun.

I mean, I'd rather women be able to carry guns too - all people, tbh. HOWEVER, I still think it's the duty of men to know how to protect others.

 

[NAMELESS]

That's why I'm saying BECOME the criminal.

The consensus nowadays is that using violence to defend against violence makes you just as bad as the attacker. They expect us to be like the guy from Nazareth and show the other cheek.

My post was black humor and satire.

As a woman, I'd rather have the right to carry a gun.

They are jailing comedians down here lmfao
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That's why I'm saying BECOME the criminal.

The consensus nowadays is that using violence to defend against violence makes you just as bad as the attacker. They expect us to be like the guy from Nazareth and show the other cheek.

My post was black humor and satire.

As a woman, I'd rather have the right to carry a gun.

The guy from Nazareth said to sell you cloak and buy a sword. Turning the other cheeks concerns insults,not physical harm.

 

[Okamakama]

Agreed 100%. People confuse weakness with being good. Most people don't do shit, cause they are too afraid and weak to do anything. Good people are strong. An mma fighter/military guy that is a gentleman is real good guy.

There is a difference between pacifism and weakness. A weak person will never fight back. A pacifist still fights when it's necessary. To be good, you also need to be strong: Be it of will, body or mind.

 

[NAMELESS]

There is a difference between pacifism and weakness. A weak person will never fight back. A pacifist still fights when it's necessary. To be good, you also need to be strong: Be it of will, body or mind.

Exactly, you need the proper means to choose doing good or bad. Weakness makes you harmless and that does not equal to being good. We have a good example of such individual here in this thread.

 

[Uncle Van]

No, it doesn't. It creates LESS violence. Criminals will be scared of invading random homes or stealing from random people because they will fear being shot. Look up the "umbrella effect".
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Down here in Brazil, we had pretty loose gun laws and crime was not that big of a deal. Now we have strict guns laws and crime doesn't stop increasing. What happened is that we are ruled by politicians that enable criminals. Gun control is a classic authoritarian regime move.

De-arming the populatjon is historical tactic for authoritarian regimes. In the U.S., what keeps the Govenrment from utilizing the military on the people is Posse Comitatus, a federal law that prevents miliary from enforcing state laws. The work around for this is de-arming the population, and funding the police force to resemble the military. It's a slowly growing into a police state.

Reminds me of something my mum told me like 14 years ago.

She said: "There is more coverage of pedos and kidnappers these days, but when I was young, it was a lot more prevalent. Parents who are keeping their kids indoors in fear of the 'rising crime rate' are the same ones who grew up with their nana telling them to avoid the nonce down the street."

It's a different country, but I think this is probably true with gun crime as well. The free-access we have to information now as opposed to the past means any incident will be brought to the attention of the public. However, it's possible that incidents of gun crime were more prevalent in the past, it's just we had no means of learning about them.

The media makes money off tragedy and controversy. What's juicier than a story of a teen shooting up a school, or a mentally ill person shooting up a parade? All it does it make the anxious folk of the world feel they are living in the darkest period of history. They demand ridiculous changes, not realising that crime has and always will exist.

We cannot complete erase the circumstances that breed criminality. Depriving people of guns just makes them helpless, be it against their would-be attackers, or their own government.

Said this back in January.

Trying to ban guns saying it's the problem is taken responsibility away from the individual. A country in Europe once banned pocket knives and it did nothing to reduce stabbings cause people started using kitchen knives instead.

With guns, people will always get them illegally no matter what, so banning guns just make those who obey the law more vulnerable.

Funnily enough, most mass shootings and gun violence happens in blue states with a notable poverty rates. California had the most mass shootings in 2023. Its the blue states that mostly scream for gun banning and blame red states which is ironic. Increase those regulations.

Ban guns, and people will simply use other weapons. Ban guns, and the people are more vulnerable to an authoritarian state as mentioned above.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Can you share your knowledge about the crazy laws in SK? My mother-in-law lives there, and my wife has mentioned wanting us to move there one day (it's one of the main reasons I'm learning Korean). Would be good to know these things.

Well I watch this true crime channel from time to time and she does a lot of cases from SKorea and Asia in general. The laws there simply don't protect victims and are extremely biased against women. Ra*ists get off scot free or just a few years in jail for absolutely appalling rap* and child ab*se crimes, the police and authorities are on the side of the rapi*ts because they're just as criminal as themselves. Do your own research before you move. Plus nobody in SKorea gets a gun that easily, if I remember correctly not even the police usually carry guns.

The guy from Nazareth said to sell you cloak and buy a sword.

Source?

A weak person will never fight back. A pacifist still fights when it's necessary.

And in incompetent parent teaches their kids to be weak & never fight back.
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De-arming the populatjon is historical tactic for authoritarian regimes.

Exactly.
De-arming the population is the first thing colonizers do to prevent uprisings.

Ban guns, and people will simply other weapons

Their response is''but a gun kills more people than a knife''

 

[NAMELESS]

Well I watch this true crime channel from time to time and she does a lot of cases from SKorea and Asia in general. The laws there simply don't protect victims and are extremely biased against women. Ra*ists get off scot free or just a few years in jail for absolutely appalling rap* and child ab*se crimes, the police and authorities are on the side of the rapi*ts because they're just as criminal as themselves. Do your own research before you move. Plus nobody in SKorea gets a gun that easily, if I remember correctly not even the police usually carry guns.

Source?


And in incompetent parent teaches their kids to be weak & never fight back.
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Exactly.
De-arming the population is the first thing colonizers do to prevent uprisings.

Their response is''but a gun kills more people than a knife''

Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.” So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.” And He said to them, “It is enough.”
— Gospel of Luke 22:36-38, NKJV
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sell_your_cloak_and_buy_a_sword
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De-arming the populatjon is historical tactic for authoritarian regimes. In the U.S., what keeps the Govenrment from utilizing the military on the people is Posse Comitatus, a federal law that prevents miliary from enforcing state laws. The work around for this is de-arming the population, and funding the police force to resemble the military. It's a slowly growing into a police state.




Said this back in January.


Ban guns, and people will simply other weapons. Ban guns, and the people are more vulnerable to an authoritarian state as mentioned above.

or simply buy illegal guns or make their own.

 

[Okamakama]

Well I watch this true crime channel from time to time and she does a lot of cases from SKorea and Asia in general. The laws there simply don't protect victims and are extremely biased against women. Ra*ists get off scot free or just a few years in jail for absolutely appalling rap* and child ab*se crimes, the police and authorities are on the side of the rapi*ts because they're just as criminal as themselves. Do your own research before you move. Plus nobody in SKorea gets a gun that easily, if I remember correctly not even the police usually carry guns.

And in incompetent parent teaches their kids to be weak & never fight back.

My guy watches Rotten Mango.

Thanks for the info, though.

I agree. I will teach my children to fight back.

Exactly, you need the proper means to choose doing good or bad. Weakness makes you harmless and that does not equal to being good. We have a good example of such individual here in this thread.

Ignoring your clear allusion to a specific user; I do think you're correct that being harmless does not equate to being good. Strength; of character and body are so undervalued in modern society.

Ban guns, and people will simply other weapons. Ban guns, and the people are more vulnerable to an authoritarian state as mentioned above.

Absolutely correct. Removing weapons from the populace is the modus operandi of totalitarian governments. They want us to be unable to defend ourselves.

 

[NAMELESS]

Well I watch this true crime channel from time to time and she does a lot of cases from SKorea and Asia in general. The laws there simply don't protect victims and are extremely biased against women. Ra*ists get off scot free or just a few years in jail for absolutely appalling rap* and child ab*se crimes, the police and authorities are on the side of the rapi*ts because they're just as criminal as themselves. Do your own research before you move. Plus nobody in SKorea gets a gun that easily, if I remember correctly not even the police usually carry guns.

Source?


And in incompetent parent teaches their kids to be weak & never fight back.
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Exactly.
De-arming the population is the first thing colonizers do to prevent uprisings.

Their response is''but a gun kills more people than a knife''

oh boy, i want to home school my future kids. Schools never scold bullies,but they punish kids that fight back bullies. They are being educated to be wimps.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

or simply buy illegal guns or make their own.

Like this guy in murica who been printing guns with a 3d printer 😂😂🙃 [automerge]1727967689[/automerge]

My guy watches Rotten Mango.

Yes Surprised you know this channel, it's kinda "woke"

 

[Okamakama]

Like this guy in murica who been printing guns with a 3d printer 😂😂🙃 [automerge]1727967689[/automerge] Yes Surprised you know this channel, it's kinda "woke"

I watch Rotten Mango. I watch things from all sides of the political spectrum. I also won't avoid something that is good simply because it's done by a 'woke person'.

 

[AL sama]

people are overly paranoid over small issues nowadays

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I watch Rotten Mango. I watch things from all sides of the political spectrum. I also won't avoid something that is good simply because it's done by a 'woke person'.

I absolutely hate how much she mute censors her speech, it's impossible to understand what she's even saying.

 

[NAMELESS]

De-arming the populatjon is historical tactic for authoritarian regimes. In the U.S., what keeps the Govenrment from utilizing the military on the people is Posse Comitatus, a federal law that prevents miliary from enforcing state laws. The work around for this is de-arming the population, and funding the police force to resemble the military. It's a slowly growing into a police state.

and yet you work for them. Shame on you, logiko was right all alongjust kidding