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See, that's exactly what post-truth is.
Lying in your case doesn't hurt you, so why not keep doing it ? Surely people will not check the 2400 pages of this thread to verify which one of us is giving scientific ressources constantly and which one is b*tching all day about science being a leftist hideout ?
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Lying in your case doesn't hurt you, so why not keep doing it ? Surely people will not check the 2400 pages of this thread to verify which one of us is giving scientific ressources constantly and which one is b*tching all day about science being a leftist hideout ?
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See, that's exactly what post-truth is.
Lying in your case doesn't hurt you, so why not keep doing it ? Surely people will not check the 2400 pages of this thread to verify which one of us is giving scientific ressources constantly and which one is b*tching all day about science being a leftist hideout ?
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Lying in your case doesn't hurt you, so why not keep doing it ? Surely people will not check the 2400 pages of this thread to verify which one of us is giving scientific ressources constantly and which one is b*tching all day about science being a leftist hideout ?
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Really?..
Transphobia?..
If they were "transphobes" they wouldn't have transitioned in the first place..
Just like with most medicines and treatments, it's not like it will solve all your problems.
Especially with something so drastic and significant as to altering your whole body composiion, there are bound to be a whole new different set of problems you will have to deal with.
What is changing ones gender really going to help?
I can hardly take this serious. Suicide is an active cause of death, and while it is no joking matter, directly opposes your claim that it is a "basic need for survival".
These people needs help and attention to get a better everyday, but a surgery to alter your gender is not the answer - it is a definitive decision that should only be permissible for when you are of legal age and have been properly and thoroughly consulted to what it entails, the consequences and to make sure that you understand what you are signing up for.
We can agree that they are in need of attention, care and help. But I vehemently disagree with the notion that this surgery is neccesary to any extent. It is completely discretional - and consequently have no place for minors to undergo.
Look, you can try to appeal to emotions all you want, but it is pointless.
The world is brutal, life is unfair, survival is a struggle. This is nothing new, but you have to realize that you cannot save everyone, no matter how much you want to. It's just not possible.
But it obviously doesn't mean we shouldn't try to help as many people as possible, I think it is the opposite in fact.
We are striving for better solutions and outcomes for all.
But one thing has to be clear, what someone think they want is not always what they really need.
Just to give an example; An alcoholic wants to drink alcohol - it's not good for them, their health or their social life, but they still want it.
Tough love.
Transphobia?..
If they were "transphobes" they wouldn't have transitioned in the first place..
Just like with most medicines and treatments, it's not like it will solve all your problems.
Especially with something so drastic and significant as to altering your whole body composiion, there are bound to be a whole new different set of problems you will have to deal with.
What is changing ones gender really going to help?
I can hardly take this serious. Suicide is an active cause of death, and while it is no joking matter, directly opposes your claim that it is a "basic need for survival".
These people needs help and attention to get a better everyday, but a surgery to alter your gender is not the answer - it is a definitive decision that should only be permissible for when you are of legal age and have been properly and thoroughly consulted to what it entails, the consequences and to make sure that you understand what you are signing up for.
We can agree that they are in need of attention, care and help. But I vehemently disagree with the notion that this surgery is neccesary to any extent. It is completely discretional - and consequently have no place for minors to undergo.
Look, you can try to appeal to emotions all you want, but it is pointless.
The world is brutal, life is unfair, survival is a struggle. This is nothing new, but you have to realize that you cannot save everyone, no matter how much you want to. It's just not possible.
But it obviously doesn't mean we shouldn't try to help as many people as possible, I think it is the opposite in fact.
We are striving for better solutions and outcomes for all.
But one thing has to be clear, what someone think they want is not always what they really need.
Just to give an example; An alcoholic wants to drink alcohol - it's not good for them, their health or their social life, but they still want it.
Tough love.
The studies shows that detransition are mostly due to the pressure of the peers, because of mockeries, harrassement etc. So the main problem of dentrasitionning is transphobia. Which is logical because in some cases, transitionning can literally cut you from your entire family, and social circles and put you in the streets, so it's expected that some people, in front fo this wall, search for a detransition. We must never blame them for that.
In this case it would for the biggest part of it.
Like ?
Go on..
No one is changing gender. If you think that, you still a few things to learn about transidentity.
>> Watch this video please:
Yeah I get that... You can't hardly understand transidentity, so I don't expect you to really understand the urgency of preventing gender disphoria or depression among trans people.
Which is exactly what GAC and GAS are.
You are arguing for preventing them from getting that at the moment.
A GAsurgery doesn't alter your gender. A GAsurgery adapts your body TO your gender.
You do not understand what is trans identity in the first place and you already have a conservative opinion about it. Mate. Really with all due respect.. Educate yourself.
Indeed, since you don't even try to understand what we are talking about.
In this case it is.
Let's not compare trans identity and gender disphoria with alcoholism please.
Tell me, which one of us created the Leftist Library with all the studies inside ?
In this case it would for the biggest part of it.
Like ?
Go on..
No one is changing gender. If you think that, you still a few things to learn about transidentity.
>> Watch this video please:
Yeah I get that... You can't hardly understand transidentity, so I don't expect you to really understand the urgency of preventing gender disphoria or depression among trans people.
Which is exactly what GAC and GAS are.
You are arguing for preventing them from getting that at the moment.
A GAsurgery doesn't alter your gender. A GAsurgery adapts your body TO your gender.
You do not understand what is trans identity in the first place and you already have a conservative opinion about it. Mate. Really with all due respect.. Educate yourself.
Indeed, since you don't even try to understand what we are talking about.
In this case it is.
Let's not compare trans identity and gender disphoria with alcoholism please.
Tell me, which one of us created the Leftist Library with all the studies inside ?
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You were talking about kids under the age of 8 getting gender affirming surgery. That's a false information. There are no such kids.
There are after the age of 12 and mostly around the age of 15 to 17.
Gender affirming surgery are - once again - very RARE. And only permitted by medical professionnals when there is no other solution to appease gender disphoria.
In those specific cases, gender affirming surgeries become BASIC NEEDS that are the only solution to prevent a very bad ending for the kid.
There are after the age of 12 and mostly around the age of 15 to 17.
Gender affirming surgery are - once again - very RARE. And only permitted by medical professionnals when there is no other solution to appease gender disphoria.
In those specific cases, gender affirming surgeries become BASIC NEEDS that are the only solution to prevent a very bad ending for the kid.
Oh ? So... It's not cool when someone else do it to you right ? So why do you keep on doing to me ?
No indeed, you talked about someone thinking that 10 years old had GAS. This never happens. It's kids over the age of 12 and in very rare cases.
In any case, this discussion comes from a moral panic that should not exist in the first place. Anyone thinking that we should not give children the care they need, being GAC or GAS is deeply inhuman.
No indeed, you talked about someone thinking that 10 years old had GAS. This never happens. It's kids over the age of 12 and in very rare cases.
In any case, this discussion comes from a moral panic that should not exist in the first place. Anyone thinking that we should not give children the care they need, being GAC or GAS is deeply inhuman.