Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
No, sorry, I meant this sentence:

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My question is do you believe that?
Yes and no. This portion from an old post of mine says most of it. Click on my name to see the whole post if necessary.
With that said, how come radical leftists today are only making things more right wing? BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING STUPID!!!! Male rapist identifying as trans right before their trail and getting sent to a female prison? Pedophiles trying to get renamed to "minor attracted persons"? Teaching children about sex? The crazy appeal to narcissism and changing of definitions for convenience? Trying to stop oil by using oil products? Demonizing men and saying are superior? Forcing transparent politics in entertainment? Not all change is for the betterment of society as you can see. These morons push so much dumb shit so that right wing media can spam it everywhere to create outrage, masking all the real issues. America is pushing more right wing for a reason.
Bottom line is that they use facts to tell lies. The lowest IQs of the left movement provides plenty of validation for the Right's opinions, so much so that even left go wtf is wrong with those guys.
 
No, sorry, I meant this sentence:

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My question is do you believe that?
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Leftist are pro-women's rights. So if you are pro-abortion, then you are on the progressive side.

Also, pro life is how we call people who are against abortion. Simply because this is an hypocritical arguments.
I'm pro-women, yeah, and I believe they're equal to men in the ways that matter/count.
I wouldn't say I'm pro abortion though.
And I don't like the idea of a potentially really great life being erased and never happening.
But if someone gets raped it should never be their responsibility to harbor and nurture a child they never wanted, even if they put it up for adoption they still need to go through nine excruciating months that they NEVER signed up for.
If it's consensual and they don't want a kid but, for example, the condom burst/is faulty then I don't know if they should abort it
But in a way it's the same as the rape case where they really do not want that kid and had it forced upon them
So should they REALLY have to carry it in the latter case? Been wondering that for a while now..
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
I'm pro-women, yeah, and I believe they're equal to men in the ways that matter/count.
I wouldn't say I'm pro abortion though.
And I don't like the idea of a potentially really great life being erased and never happening.
But if someone gets raped it should never be their responsibility to harbor and nurture a child they never wanted, even if they put it up for adoption they still need to go through nine excruciating months that they NEVER signed up for.
If it's consensual and they don't want a kid but, for example, the condom burst/is faulty then I don't know if they should abort it
But in a way it's the same as the rape case where they really do not want that kid and had it forced upon them
So should they REALLY have to carry it in the latter case? Been wondering that for a while now..
Personally, I've never been pro life nor pro abortion. It's entirely dependent on one's own morality, and there is no wrong answer. I believe it's completely up to the mother on what to do with the child when it comes to rape, and trying to decide if she's wrong or right would just be enforcing your own mortality onto other people. Who am I tell to her what to do with her body or how she should feel? It's really not our place.


While you people are debating left and right, my mind is pondering on how to emotionally detach myself from external factors including outcomes.
You have issues with emotional detachment? Its the greatest thing ever.
 
Personally, I've never been pro life nor pro abortion. It's entirely dependent on one's own morality, and there is no wrong answer. I believe it's completely up to the mother on what to do with the child when it comes to rape, and trying to decide if she's wrong or right would just be enforcing your own mortality onto other people. Who am I tell to her what to do with her body or how she should feel? It's really not our place.
This alongside the detachment thing makes me believe you and me simply have different outlooks on life in general. Not that that's bad of course.
I'm probably a more emotional person than you most of the time while you're probably just more logical. That isn't to say I don't like to apply logic to a lot of the things I'm thinking about though.
For example, going off a conversation we had before about Goodnight Punpun, you seem to like the writing while not being attached to the characters and not caring about how relatable they are whatsoever, while I consider it one of my favorite mangas both because it's just generally written very well and also because I can relate a lot to the characters (well, not in the extreme ways like when they commit a crime, but ykwim).
 
fam try to make it make sense cause what I said to @Uncle Van is entirely different
Yeah sorry, it's my fault. I do that... I jump subject and sometimes bypass ideas because it makes sense in my head but I lose my audience

What I forgot to tell you is that it was one of the reason why I thought the good VS evil was a bad debate. I prefer to talk about ethics >> and there is why I said that I'm sure a lot of people are ethically pushing your country toward progress.


Bottom line is that they use facts to tell lies. The lowest IQs of the left movement provides plenty of validation for the Right's opinions, so much so that even left go wtf is wrong with those guys.
While I do agree that there are stupid leftist much more than before now. Like you said, I think there are apolitical morons who do dumb stuff... I still think you are listening too much to what conservative are lying about.

There are exemple in here that triggers an alarm for me. It feel like real thing transformed by reactionnaries to make a point in their stupid newspapers.

Appropriation by the far right has always been a thing. If I laugh about Kirk’s death for ex, the right will inevitably use it to portray me as heartless. Same if a dumb leftist make a dumb action....

AND I think this exactly why we disagree on moderation

I think the same way people made you hang on those fake BS about dumb leftists, legitimate or not, people gaslighted you into thinking stuff like saying "tranny" is just fun game when in reality, if a trans person a little fragile comes here and see that:

- First they will leave
- Second they could have a very bad time. (No joke, I recently saw a testimony of people reporting the suicide of a trans woman because she was missgendered by fascists)

We can’t operate based on their moral panics and reappropriations... or we will eat ourselves

While you people are debating left and right, my mind is pondering on how to emotionally detach myself from external factors including outcomes.
It can be hard. I suggest watching cat video from time to times to destress a little. (or having a cat, it works too :moonwalk:)


So should they REALLY have to carry it in the latter case? Been wondering that for a while now..
When I deal with a dilemma I always resort to some kind of ethics: "Is a potential (life) really more important than the rights or the well being of my partner ?"

Or maybe.. it's a wrong question. Maybe I have no place in that dilemma, after all, it's their body.
 
Yeah sorry, it's my fault. I do that... I jump subject and sometimes bypass ideas because it makes sense in my head but I lose my audience

What I forgot to tell you is that it was one of the reason why I thought the good VS evil was a bad debate. I prefer to talk about ethics >> and there is why I said that I'm sure a lot of people are ethically pushing your country toward progress.



While I do agree that there are stupid leftist much more than before now. Like you said, I think there are apolitical morons who do dumb stuff... I still think you are listening to much to what conservative are lying about.

There are exemple in here that triggers an alarm for me. It feel like real thing transformed by reactionnaries to make a point in their stupid newspapers.

Appropriation by the far right has always been a thing. If I laugh about Kirk’s death for ex, the right will inevitably use it to portray me as heartless. Same if a dumb leftist make a dumb action....

AND I think this exactly why we disagree on moderation

I think the same way people made you hang on those fake BS about dumb leftists, legitimate or not, people gaslighted you into thinking stuff like saying "tranny" is just fun game when in reality, if a trans person a little fragile comes here and see that:

- First they will leave
- Second they could have a very bad time. (No joke, I recently saw a testimony of people reporting the suicide of a trans woman because she was missgendered by fascists)

We can’t operate based on conservative moral panics and reappropriations...


It can be hard. I suggest watching cat video from time to times to destress a little. (or having a cat, it works too :moonwalk:)



When I deal with a dilemma I always resort to some kind of ethics: "Is a potential (life) really more important than the rights or the well being of my partner ?"

Or maybe.. it's a wrong question. Maybe I have no place in that dilemma, after all, it's their body.
You do know pregnancy and the act of giving birth can kill a woman right?
Btw would you like to raise a child in a world where they can't even remember their mother's face?
 
Indeed, the left has top-tier propaganda like no one else. They have convinced themselves they are Christ incarnate. Every time a leftist looks at the mirror, he sees Jesus. .
eh Not exactly, but it doesn't have to be, it doesn't couple itself with religious roots.
fairly certain though there's nothing "christ like" about the current right wing here .

Theyve done more to ensure more people reject it and in panic are trying to enforce it through the constitution.
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While you people are debating left and right, my mind is pondering on how to emotionally detach myself from external factors including outcomes.
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