Never said that. Learn to read.
Yes you said that.

Are you calling people who want to end a genocide.. "Nazi" ?

:snoopy:
There is no genocide going on only genocide prevetion by Israel preventing Hamas to genocide jews.

Stop ragebating, learn history.
Take your own advice
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Coward. Won’t even speak up his opinion :suresure:
Low bait
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This guy called me a Nazi for wanting a genocide to end.

That's Earth X level rethoric.
Didn't called you anything. You don't want to end any genocide, that's why you say 0 words about the still kidnapped people
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Every police violence is unjustified. The police in its existence is unjustified.
Given the utter lack of context here, you think crime of all kinds is justified?

You seem to equate both as if the critics are similars.
I'm talking about people in this thread about a very specific thing. No need to once again make it about left vs right as a whole.

You have a lot of knowledge, I never denied that. In fact I respect and admire you for that. But you have a big idealist political bias that prevents you from listening to genuine and legitimate critics or argumentations like mine.
What makes me idealist by definiton? Seems counter productive to my detached curiosity and lack of vision for the future. Or are you saying I'm biased against idealism?
 
Nop. But that's not your first lie.


There is no genocide going on only genocide prevetion by Israel preventing Hamas to genocide jews.
You are lucky. Very lucky.


Already in process. Do your part now.


Didn't called you anything. You don't want to end any genocide, that's why you say 0 words about the still kidnapped people
You are very very lucky.


Words on a forum can't hurt you, but if you think that things around here are somehow 'violent' now, even with regularly active mods, I can't imagine what sort of self-induced trauma you'll experience from just one week without mods. :absojustice:
Don't worry. I've been experiementing it for years. The moderation is but a quick fix, it does change anything about the systematism of the problem. And learn about the powers of world. If words couldn't hurt, there wouldn't need any moderation to begin with.


Given the utter lack of context here, you think crime of all kinds is justified.
No. Rather that the response in front of those crimes is unjustified.

Most rapist, murderers and criminals are out of prison, those who are targeted by the system are the ennemy of said system usually racialized people. This is, for ex, something welearn to understand through sociological datas, studies and researches under a materialistic lens.

I'm talking about people in this thread about a very specific thing. No need to once again make it about left vs right as a whole.
Sadly, The problem is always the same:


What makes me idealist by definiton? Seems counter productive to my detached curiosity and lack of vision for the future.
A little context:

The meanings and political implications of both notions "materialism" and "idealism" changed over time.

- The concept of "idealism"took the shape of the idea of imagining a better world, a form of delusion of the futur, a form of dreaming state...
-The concept of "materialism" took the shape of people being completely overcentered around material possession.

As such, both terms were depoliticized and dephilosophilized and took the form of "bad" types of behaviors and mindset. Ironically enough, idealism took the lesser damages as dreamers are usually called idealists where materialists have to deconstruct the concept to be understood at everyturn by the general audience.

The problem is that those representation are wrong philosophically and politically.

Materialism refers to a structural philosophy of seeing the world, a vision where the material reality is dependant of our minds when Idealism is the opposite, where reality can only exist through the determinations of the mind.

As such:


Materialist believe that the material reality of the world and the condition of existence shape our ideas.
VS
Idealist believe that the determination of the mind and our will shape the material reality of the world

People like Marx who imagined a potential capitalist-free society, where Materialist, when people like Kant, who were at the center of the age of enlightnement were completely idealists.

In practice, this creates THE MAJOR political conflict in our entire existence which is a battle between a set of values that seeks to changes systemsand institution to influence people and create a better society VS a set of values that seeks to change behavior in order for people to make society better.

In reality, you could say that materialists are closer to dreamers than idealists who rather have a conservatist tendancy to seek reality through their biases and ideology. Strong materialist will usually follow the scientific process when idealists will usually follow a set of beliefs about systems and humanity.

Fascism is a symptom of autoritative idealism.

Now..


When I tell you that there is a systemic problem and you either refuse to aknowledge its existence or deny the importance of attacking it systematically, you are being idealist as in your are thinking through the concept of changing behaviors and individualities instead of thinking through the modification of structures of systems.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
No. Rather that the response in front of those crimes is unjustified.

Most rapist, murderers and criminals are out of prison, those who are targeted by the system are the ennemy of said system usually racialized people. This is, for ex, something welearn to understand through sociological datas, studies and researches under a materialistic lens.
You really have a habit of over-explaining things while at the same time nothing at all. It always so forcefully philosophical.

The worse the material conditions, the more likely someone is to commit a crime. There is a reason richer communities always have less and less crimes, and it is because their material conditions are more properly being met. Ronald Reagan and his concept of meritocracy propaganda made conservatives believe that someone commits crime simply because they lack morals and integrity, emphasizing the need for incarceration. Basically always addressing the symptoms and not the source.

Result? America has the highest incarceration rate in the world, and also the highest crime rate still.
Materialist believe that the material reality of the world and the condition of existence shape our ideas.
VS
Idealist believe that the determination of the mind and our will shape the material reality of the world
? I don't believe that at all though? Human beings are obviously products of their environment. Humans are always taught.
 
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