Current Events Hard reality : Oda does not acknowledge Kaido as the strongest in his manga

[Extravlad]

-Oda didn't have Kaido defeat Oden fair and square

-Oda didn't have Kaido have the upperhand on Big Mom who was missing one of her 3 main homies

-Oda never had Luffy acknowledge Kaido's reputation as the world's strongest, not a SINGLE TIME.

-Oda only has Luffy/Zoro refer to the threat of Kaido as "Yonko", be it in Zou where Zoro warns Luffy about facing a Yonko or in the latest chapter where Luffy tells Momo you just bite a Yonko, he never says "You just bite the world's strongest" or anything like that

-Oda didn't give Kaido a single confirmed W vs another toptier

Kaido's reputation can't be more irrelevant to the current arc, it's been brought up once by Zoro who mockingly mentionned the "so called strongest" and once by Killer who called him world's strongest pirate, a grand total of TWO INSTANCES in a 110+ chapter long arc, that's a piss poor track record.

In comparison Whitebeard was repeatedly being called the strongest over and over at Marineford, by everybody and their mothers, and that's a mere 30 chapter long arc, that's what acknowledgement from the author is.

TL:DR : Kaido's folklorish reputation is irrelevant in the story, Oda has already planned to have stronger foes in the post-wano story arcs

 

[nik87]

 

[Heinrich]

Cope.

 

[Extravlad]

Cope.

You're the ones who need to cope. Kaido will be lucky to end the series as top 10 strongest

 

[Sentry22]

WSM
WSC
WSS

There are far too many of them. Even the one guy that reigned supreme was not a world's strongest anything really.

 

[Fujishiro]

Never seen someone crying as much as you do about someone being stronger than your favorite.

Post automatically merged: Sep 25, 2021

-Oda didn't give Kaido a single confirmed W vs another toptier

Mihawk has no W against another top tier either.

 

[MonsterKaido]

All of the points are easy to debunk and are old and childish ; characters like BB will surpass him and imu isn't known by the world

And strongest doesn't means he is way above other top tiers

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Kaido's the current strongest, or at least that's what Oda wants us to think, or at the very least that's what he wanted us to think at the time I was still reading this lol. Even folklore is better than nothing. As of now Kaido has the best argument for the current number 1, or at least had at the time I was reading this. If something changed from then, I take it back.

Mihawk has no W against another top tier either.

He defeated Zoro in Baratie

 

[BornInAbyss]

 

[Eustass Captain Cream]

The true meaning of the title "strongest creature" is that he is the strongest Zoan/inhuman thing in the world.

 

[Shepherd]

There are many things one can point to that indicate Kaido's title being a sham and not being legitimate. However, such things are not really needed to prove this point.

One only has to look at the fact that Oda is having Kaido, the so-called """World's Strongest""", being defeated this early into the New World rather than saving him for last. If Kaido was truly the World's Strongest, that would mean that if Luffy beats him here, he would be strong enough to 1v1 every other character in the series, killing any tension for future arcs.

 

[Finalbeta]

It's simple.

- Titles are not universal or else why would Whitebeard be labeled both as WSM and Roger's equal for example. Not to mention he was likely a swordsman in that possessor and proficient user of Murakumogiri a Supreme Grade and yet not WSS.

- Kaido looks more likely Zoro level or somewhat highter at best for now, it should be acknowledged how Mihawk is likely still mid diffing Zoro.

 

[Weeman]

Kaido looks more likely Zoro level or somewhat highter at best for now

This Zoro wank is getting out of hand

 

[Shepherd]

- Kaido looks more likely Zoro level or somewhat highter at best for now, it should be acknowledged how Mihawk is likely still mid diffing Zoro.

Kaido looks more likely Zoro level? You mean the same Zoro who is being stalled out by base King? Are you drunk

 

[Finalbeta]

Kaido looks more likely Zoro level? You mean the same Zoro who is being stalled out by base King? Are you drunk

The Zoro downplayer has returned.

This is a sad day guys.

 

[Tai long]

It's simple.

- Titles are not universal or else why would Whitebeard be labeled both as WSM and Roger's equal for example. Not to mention he was likely a swordsman in that possessor and proficient user of Murakumogiri a Supreme Grade and yet not WSS.

- Kaido looks more likely Zoro level or somewhat highter at best for now, it should be acknowledged how Mihawk is likely still mid diffing Zoro.

yet zoro is fighting king with no adv haki

 

[Shepherd]

The Zoro downplayer has returned.

"K-KAIDO IS MOST LIKELY ZORO LEVEL!!1"

 

[JoNdule]

-Oda didn't have Kaido defeat Oden fair and square

-Oda didn't have Kaido have the upperhand on Big Mom who was missing one of her 3 main homies

-Oda never had Luffy acknowledge Kaido's reputation as the world's strongest, not a SINGLE TIME.

-Oda only has Luffy/Zoro refer to the threat of Kaido as "Yonko", be it in Zou where Zoro warns Luffy about facing a Yonko or in the latest chapter where Luffy tells Momo you just bite a Yonko, he never says "You just bite the world's strongest" or anything like that

-Oda didn't give Kaido a single confirmed W vs another toptier

Kaido's reputation can't be more irrelevant to the current arc, it's been brought up once by Zoro who mockingly mentionned the "so called strongest" and once by Killer who called him world's strongest pirate, a grand total of TWO INSTANCES in a 110+ chapter long arc, that's a piss poor track record.

In comparison Whitebeard was repeatedly being called the strongest over and over at Marineford, by everybody and their mothers, and that's a mere 30 chapter long arc, that's what acknowledgement from the author is.

TL:DR : Kaido's folklorish reputation is irrelevant in the story, Oda has already planned to have stronger foes in the post-wano story arcs

Ok
We hear you

Kaido is not the strongest - Extravlad, 2021

 

[Finalbeta]

"K-KAIDO IS MOST LIKELY ZORO LEVEL!!1"

I remember your lack of intelligence don't worry, there's no reason to post your own personal picture.

Of course your limited mind is not capable to comprehend how efficient Kaido tackling Hakai proved, you don't even understand that he likely took the explosion before being teleported or else he would not get so many bones crushed without being pushed consistently back after relying on his barrier haki.

Of course you likely think he cannot afford dissipating the blast energy of several Thunder Bagua with his defensive output and even dodge a few considering he displayed better reaction speeds than Luffy during his fight with Dragon Kaido and Luffy was almost managing to dodge one.

Despite post Hakai he permascarred Kaido in one single attack, it's not he would likely need tons of them to defeat him or else why would Oda have let Kaido to still possess all these HP.

I could go on but a nullity like you doesn't deserve it.

 

[Shepherd]

I remember your lack of intelligence don't worry, there's no reason to post your own personal picture.

And everyone will remember your placement of Kaido on the same level of a guy who is getting stalled out by King while his captain is making the Sky split

Of course your limited mind is not capable to comprehend how efficient Kaido tackling Hakai proved, you don't even understand that he likely took the explosion before being teleported or else he would not get so many bones crushed without being pushed consistently back after relying on his barrier haki.

None of what you just said matters because Zolo is getting stalled by King and will likely take significant damage against King as well, relegating all of Zolo's efforts as things that any high-ranking YC can also do.

If Zolo was truly on Kaido's level or anywhere near it, King would be dead by now.

Of course you likely think he cannot afford dissipating the blast energy of several Thunder Bagua with his defensive output and even dodge a few considering he displayed better reaction speeds than Luffy during his fight with Dragon Kaido.

Once again, a bunch of irrelevant nonsense. If all of Zolo's good "defensive output" feats include him taking major damage afterwards, such as Hakai shattering 30 of his bones, they are not good examples of defense but rather endurance.

Not that any of this would actually scale Zolo to Kaido's level of durability, who just went through trucked through 12 Commander-level fighters as opposed to Zolo who is struggling with just 1.

Despite post Hakai he permascarred Kaido in one single attack, it's not he would likely need tons of them to defeat him or else why would Oda have let Kaido to still possess all these HP.

Doesn't matter, the scar was tiny and was not enough to knock Kaido down for even a second before getting a Thunder Bagua to the face.


Fact is, Zolo is nowhere near Kaido level and is just a Commander-level fighter just like Sanji, who in Oda's own words stands "Shoulder-to-Shoulder" with.