Questions & Mysteries Has Fujitora Already Shown Us His Conqueror’s Haki?
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For Fujitora I can see it happening
Being a leader is to have a vision and be able to inspire a bunch of people to engage with you in that vision. That could be Fujitora
Akainu however can’t seem to inspire a true following of his vision as between him and Aokiji it was framed that Aokiji had the backing of the marines while Akainu was massively backed by government intérêts. Aokiji who doesn’t even seem to stand for anything managed to garner away all the support from Akainu. That says it all pretty much
Maybe Akainu is such a lone wolf in his ideology, that sure is a sign of courage and strength. But no he isn’t. He is ultimately a useful idiot type for the people running the show. His ideology is the government’s ideology which is why the government heavily favours Akainu
Had he actually had real leadership qualities he would have had support by the marines. Akainu is someone that governs through fear, not through charisma and courage of one’s convictions.
Kizaru has shown no courage or leadership qualities. He is the ultimate a lap dog type, I have no idea how one can picture him possessing conquerors haki.
Greenbull is also just a slave to the government propaganda. The ultimate useful
Idiot type. Édit: he simps for Akainu lol
Aokiji is at least a better option than Akainu but what kind of traits does he possess that makes one think he is a conquerors user?
Being a leader is to have a vision and be able to inspire a bunch of people to engage with you in that vision. That could be Fujitora
Akainu however can’t seem to inspire a true following of his vision as between him and Aokiji it was framed that Aokiji had the backing of the marines while Akainu was massively backed by government intérêts. Aokiji who doesn’t even seem to stand for anything managed to garner away all the support from Akainu. That says it all pretty much
Maybe Akainu is such a lone wolf in his ideology, that sure is a sign of courage and strength. But no he isn’t. He is ultimately a useful idiot type for the people running the show. His ideology is the government’s ideology which is why the government heavily favours Akainu
Had he actually had real leadership qualities he would have had support by the marines. Akainu is someone that governs through fear, not through charisma and courage of one’s convictions.
Kizaru has shown no courage or leadership qualities. He is the ultimate a lap dog type, I have no idea how one can picture him possessing conquerors haki.
Greenbull is also just a slave to the government propaganda. The ultimate useful
Idiot type. Édit: he simps for Akainu lol
Aokiji is at least a better option than Akainu but what kind of traits does he possess that makes one think he is a conquerors user?
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@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung I used to think the admirals were all equal, but Greenbull changed that.
Not his feats, but the fact that he simps for Akainu.
Imo that’s a big portrayal indication of inferiority. There’s absolutely no way they’re having an extreme diff fight.
Not his feats, but the fact that he simps for Akainu.
Imo that’s a big portrayal indication of inferiority. There’s absolutely no way they’re having an extreme diff fight.
Caramel is saying that she is so strong, she could eventually become an Admiral or even a more prestigious rank, a Fleet Admiral. A rank even more difficult to attain than Admiral. Is this how you read dialogue Kinyagi? You are inferring implications where none exist. Caramel is simply stating that it is harder to become a Fleet Admiral than it is to become an Admiral.
As you just said, they are always portrayed as equals with literally nothing implying they are not equals.
Oh okay lmfao so what happened? Did the simple nomination for Fleet Admiral bestow a new magic power onto Aokiji and Akainu with no explanation? Did Aokiji and Akainu mysteriously gain invisible and unexplained Powerups from nowhere? Why would they be any stronger than Kizaru when they were not portrayed as such at Marineford?
As you just said, they are always portrayed as equals with literally nothing implying they are not equals.
Oh okay lmfao so what happened? Did the simple nomination for Fleet Admiral bestow a new magic power onto Aokiji and Akainu with no explanation? Did Aokiji and Akainu mysteriously gain invisible and unexplained Powerups from nowhere? Why would they be any stronger than Kizaru when they were not portrayed as such at Marineford?
And what exactly does she see in her that makes her think she can attain Fleet Admiral.
Come on Lee.
No, they were only ever portrayed as equal at Marineford, the arc that has the most sketchy and least consistent powerscaling in the entire story.
No, strength is not a requirement for FA.
But they’re generally stronger in the same way that Captains are generally stronger than Lieutenants.
I’ve literally explained this 3 times lmfaooo
He gets it.
Come on Lee.
No, they were only ever portrayed as equal at Marineford, the arc that has the most sketchy and least consistent powerscaling in the entire story.
No, strength is not a requirement for FA.
But they’re generally stronger in the same way that Captains are generally stronger than Lieutenants.
I’ve literally explained this 3 times lmfaooo
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there are 4 conquerors in this volume cover 
if Yonkos can have CoC on average, so can Admirals
Sengoku was confirmed to have it and he was a previous admiral and fleet admiral respectively
Garp not confirmed but 100% has it too considering his family and has turned down admiral rank many times
Funny how people still try to make CoC special and rare when the author himself is spamming it everywhere in Post-TS like everybody casually owns it
daily reminder Useless Mid has CoC too
Sengoku was confirmed to have it and he was a previous admiral and fleet admiral respectively
Garp not confirmed but 100% has it too considering his family and has turned down admiral rank many times
Funny how people still try to make CoC special and rare when the author himself is spamming it everywhere in Post-TS like everybody casually owns it
daily reminder Useless Mid has CoC too
Calm down, Issho San. We are still pretending Admirals don’t have Conqueror’s Haki, there is no need to get this worked up yet.
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If we go by how Akainu became FA then there is actually no difference in strength when it comes to Admirals and FA
Two points actually support this
1) At MF, we had 3 admirals and just after war, Sengoku recommended Kuzan whereas Upper echoleon wanted Akainu.
This itself indicates that promotion was more based on how each individual can carry out orders and in their justice beliefs while reflecting that all 3 Admirals were capable to get promoted as FA.
2) Kuzan vs Akainu was an extreme extreme diff fight which places them almost equally.
Imo, based on these one can argue that FA and Admirals are more or less equal.
However, if I go by portrayal then I always see Akainu slightly above other Admirals.
Two points actually support this
1) At MF, we had 3 admirals and just after war, Sengoku recommended Kuzan whereas Upper echoleon wanted Akainu.
This itself indicates that promotion was more based on how each individual can carry out orders and in their justice beliefs while reflecting that all 3 Admirals were capable to get promoted as FA.
2) Kuzan vs Akainu was an extreme extreme diff fight which places them almost equally.
Imo, based on these one can argue that FA and Admirals are more or less equal.
However, if I go by portrayal then I always see Akainu slightly above other Admirals.
This falls apart since we’re shown later that Kuzan and Sakazuki are relative in strength. And you’re assuming without justification that Borsalino was also capable but this isn’t stated anywhere.
For all we know they were recognized as qualified and Kizaru wasn’t so then debate took place about the two qualified candidates.
Yes, but again you can’t necessarily generalize this to the other admirals.
For all we know they were recognized as qualified and Kizaru wasn’t so then debate took place about the two qualified candidates.
Yes, but again you can’t necessarily generalize this to the other admirals.
You are overlooking a key fact here
Admirals are considered as strongest forces in the Navy and not Fleet Admiral because it's evident from the the way Akainu became one as it's based on the preference of Higher authority.
Strength had no role in the promotion but the Akainu's absolute justice.
All 3 admirals - kuzan, kizaru and akainu were portrayed as equal and Kuzan vs Akainu proved this.
Admirals are considered as strongest forces in the Navy and not Fleet Admiral because it's evident from the the way Akainu became one as it's based on the preference of Higher authority.
Strength had no role in the promotion but the Akainu's absolute justice.
All 3 admirals - kuzan, kizaru and akainu were portrayed as equal and Kuzan vs Akainu proved this.
