Current Events Honest Question: Why don't people actually want a real 1v1 fight for Zoro?
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If you are already insulting King that much, is it even surprising to you a nerfed Zoro fights him lol?
I just think before we even see hybrids or the potential for awakening, we can't really determine how strong they are vs Marco. Oda loves stalling at the expense of making characters look bad. I mean Big Mom is literally the worst offender of this.
I just think before we even see hybrids or the potential for awakening, we can't really determine how strong they are vs Marco. Oda loves stalling at the expense of making characters look bad. I mean Big Mom is literally the worst offender of this.
? irrelevant
weve seen zoros top level against hybrid kaido
you think king is comparable ?
maybe to the negative iq trolls
he shares the same rank oden did in wbs ship
find someone who says oden is yc2
like i said above
even a hybrid king how does it stack to a hybrid kaido ?
not well if at all imo
weve seen zoros top level against hybrid kaido
you think king is comparable ?
maybe to the negative iq trolls
he shares the same rank oden did in wbs ship
find someone who says oden is yc2
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like i said above
even a hybrid king how does it stack to a hybrid kaido ?
not well if at all imo
You literally could do all this without removing Zoro from the roof and not extensively injuring him.
Sorry but I disagree.
Like it's baffling to me that you can say:
"If Oda wanted that fight to happen, he wouldn't have made Zoro tank Hakai; he would have simply had Luffy tell Zoro to go down and let him fight Kaido alone..."
But then expect:
"I am pretty confident that Zoro's next major fighting-related involvement in Wano will be his 1-on-1 showdown with Kaido."
Like if that's not a massive contradiction in logic, idk what is. Are we insulting Kaido or are we insulting King?
@spawn , updated my comment. More I had to say about this
Sorry but I disagree.
Like it's baffling to me that you can say:
"If Oda wanted that fight to happen, he wouldn't have made Zoro tank Hakai; he would have simply had Luffy tell Zoro to go down and let him fight Kaido alone..."
But then expect:
"I am pretty confident that Zoro's next major fighting-related involvement in Wano will be his 1-on-1 showdown with Kaido."
Like if that's not a massive contradiction in logic, idk what is. Are we insulting Kaido or are we insulting King?
@spawn , updated my comment. More I had to say about this
but hey if you guys are fine not seeing zoro for a while
waiting for that zkk chap to pay off
thats also fine
just know even this possible fight doesnt stop the other from happening. but ok.
I think from spawns post
I got a more rational reason
not sure how it works cause luffy told him he got this so I assume when the fight is over in that case.
his role was yc2 mate
his powerlevel was not
thats the difference .
king is kaido's number 1 calamity.
whether he is > , < , or equal to katakuri is yet to be seen.
waiting for that zkk chap to pay off
thats also fine
just know even this possible fight doesnt stop the other from happening. but ok.
I think from spawns post
I got a more rational reason
not sure how it works cause luffy told him he got this so I assume when the fight is over in that case.
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his role was yc2 mate
his powerlevel was not
thats the difference .
king is kaido's number 1 calamity.
whether he is > , < , or equal to katakuri is yet to be seen.
There is no "Orochi plot thread" that involves Zoro.
Orochi is part of the idea of Kozuki v Kurozumi.
It makes absolutely no sense for Zoro to be involved in that. This is an affair that will be resolved through Ame-no-Habakiri ("the snake slayer") through either Momon or Hiyori... Not Zoro and Enma. Enma is the blade that splits the earth to the bottom of "hell" (hell being Kaido) and was given to Zoro for a reason. If Zoro's job was to resolve the Orochi deal, he would have gotten Habakiri instead.
Orochi is part of the idea of Kozuki v Kurozumi.
It makes absolutely no sense for Zoro to be involved in that. This is an affair that will be resolved through Ame-no-Habakiri ("the snake slayer") through either Momon or Hiyori... Not Zoro and Enma. Enma is the blade that splits the earth to the bottom of "hell" (hell being Kaido) and was given to Zoro for a reason. If Zoro's job was to resolve the Orochi deal, he would have gotten Habakiri instead.
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Sorry but I don't understand.
How can you have a Luffy 1-on-1 fight with Kaido without removing Zoro from the rooftop? Zoro either has to go under the rooftop and fight subordinates or he has to go join Kid and Killer in the fight against Big Mom, both of which don't make much sense for what Oda has set up for Zoro.
What legitimate excuse can Oda create for Zoro magically being taken out of this fight that is better than Zoro being injured to the point he can't fight for now?
How can you have a Luffy 1-on-1 fight with Kaido without removing Zoro from the rooftop? Zoro either has to go under the rooftop and fight subordinates or he has to go join Kid and Killer in the fight against Big Mom, both of which don't make much sense for what Oda has set up for Zoro.
What legitimate excuse can Oda create for Zoro magically being taken out of this fight that is better than Zoro being injured to the point he can't fight for now?
no it wasnt yc this and that is fan made shit
all crews dont have the same set up
roger had
vc
rest
shanks has
vc
rest
primebeard had division commanders
with 2nd division commander being his strongest
blackbeard has division commanders
with 2nd division commander being his strongest
kaido has
3 all stars
meme has
3 sweet commanders
dc was never there rank in power
vista isnt yc5
izo isnt yc16
all crews dont have the same set up
roger had
vc
rest
shanks has
vc
rest
primebeard had division commanders
with 2nd division commander being his strongest
blackbeard has division commanders
with 2nd division commander being his strongest
kaido has
3 all stars
meme has
3 sweet commanders
dc was never there rank in power
vista isnt yc5
izo isnt yc16
I mean, the former is literally happening right now. He's telling them to go below the dome. Whether or not you think to makes much sense, it's actually happening lol.
My question to you is why you say it's improbable for Zoro to fight King because he tanked Hakai and is nerfed, but in the same post say that you expect Zoro to 1v1 Kaido lol.
He literally did not have to remove Zoro entirely from the fight if he wanted Luffy to have a temporary 1v1 and still have Zoro fight Kaido. I dont get why this is so hard to process.
I think you have it wrong. I don't believe most of us don't want Zoro to have a 1v1 battle. Zoro battles have been some of thr best battles in the manga. We just want Zoro to have a proper 1v1 battle.
Based on Zoro's display on the dome it's impossible to give him a proper 1v1 battle if he doesn't fight Big Mom and Zoro is not set up to fight her.
There is King, but he is not strong enough for Zoro. That is why I believe part of the reason Oda had Zoro fight on the dome was to weaken him so King can pose a challenge to Zoro.
Based on Zoro's display on the dome it's impossible to give him a proper 1v1 battle if he doesn't fight Big Mom and Zoro is not set up to fight her.
There is King, but he is not strong enough for Zoro. That is why I believe part of the reason Oda had Zoro fight on the dome was to weaken him so King can pose a challenge to Zoro.
Okay, many things here to respond to here.
Law and Zoro are going to the dome. I think it makes perfect sense.
I think Zoro is going to be nursed for 10-20 chapters and he will be kept away until towards the end of the arc.
I believe Law will be taken away from Kaido too by being assigned a new task of helping heal Zoro most likely alongside Hiyori. Or potentially, he could leave Zoro and go to Big Mom. There are different options possible for him.
Zoro getting nursed back to health will take a considerable amount of chapters given the emphasis put on how badly he is injured.
In that span of chapters, I believe King will be defeated.
In that same span of chapters, I don't believe Kaido will be defeated.
Hence why I think Kaido will be an available opponent for Zoro while King won't be since he will most likely be downed for good.
If Oda wanted Zoro to fight King: he would have made Luffy tell Zoro to get off the rooftop without the entire Hakai thing happening. Meaning that Zoro could fight King while Luffy is fighting Kaido, but he didn't do that. He made Zoro get injured and now he has to get through recovering from the injury.
I believe that by the time Zoro finishes recovering, the two opponents that will not be finished are Big Mom and Kaido, not King.
Hence why Zoro will be able to fight Kaido...
There is no "contradiction", it's just that we have a different set of unspoken assumptions.
For example, I believe the subordinates will be defeated before Kaido and Big Mom. Maybe you don't believe that.
Additionally, I believe that Zoro's "healing" will take a considerable amount of time (20-30 chapters potentially). Maybe you think it will be much shorter than that. etc...
Law and Zoro are going to the dome. I think it makes perfect sense.
I think Zoro is going to be nursed for 10-20 chapters and he will be kept away until towards the end of the arc.
I believe Law will be taken away from Kaido too by being assigned a new task of helping heal Zoro most likely alongside Hiyori. Or potentially, he could leave Zoro and go to Big Mom. There are different options possible for him.
Zoro getting nursed back to health will take a considerable amount of chapters given the emphasis put on how badly he is injured.
In that span of chapters, I believe King will be defeated.
In that same span of chapters, I don't believe Kaido will be defeated.
Hence why I think Kaido will be an available opponent for Zoro while King won't be since he will most likely be downed for good.
If Oda wanted Zoro to fight King: he would have made Luffy tell Zoro to get off the rooftop without the entire Hakai thing happening. Meaning that Zoro could fight King while Luffy is fighting Kaido, but he didn't do that. He made Zoro get injured and now he has to get through recovering from the injury.
I believe that by the time Zoro finishes recovering, the two opponents that will not be finished are Big Mom and Kaido, not King.
Hence why Zoro will be able to fight Kaido...
There is no "contradiction", it's just that we have a different set of unspoken assumptions.
For example, I believe the subordinates will be defeated before Kaido and Big Mom. Maybe you don't believe that.
Additionally, I believe that Zoro's "healing" will take a considerable amount of time (20-30 chapters potentially). Maybe you think it will be much shorter than that. etc...