Anime & Manga How did Sanji fans cope with the fact Zoro has kingly ambitions?

#64
1. Didn't Jeff literally have to kick Sanji out so he finally pursues his dream?
2. How is finding a sea with ingredients for cooking = kingly ambition? So now everyone with a dream (basically every straw hat) is a conqueror? Having the color of the supreme King indicates a different level of ambition.

Nami also sacrificed herself for her village. Now she too a king? Cmon.
I'm sorry but this imaginary requirement for CoC eludes me to this day

What kingly ambition do a lot of CoC users have? What kingly ambition did WB have? What about Rayleigh, Katakuri, and Big Mom?

What about Ace for that matter? You know, the guy who was dead set on making another man the king instead of himself
 
#65
Do Sanji Stans forget that Sanji chose to leave the crew... LOL....
Read all manga not spesific parts :)
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Sanji dont have any problem about speed. He can keep the fire he produces up to the limits of his leg.

Exosceleton and armanent haki unlocked to keep blue flames.

Everybody knows if sanji keep your leg limiatation , sanji have to have coating.

I'm sorry but this imaginary requirement for CoC eludes me to this day

What kingly ambition do a lot of CoC users have? What kingly ambition did WB have? What about Rayleigh, Katakuri, and Big Mom?

What about Ace for that matter? You know, the guy who was dead set on making another man the king instead of himself
These will always stays unresponded question. Only matter how can a cook match zoro :) Zoro fans are not good feeling in nowadays. Be merciful
 
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#66
1. No he didn’t. Sanji knew that they were lying to make him leave. Sanji left for his own drea.
2. Sanjis dream is a treasure that is legendary and mythical. He got made fun of for having this ambition but he still believed in it. Sanji and Zoros dreams are designed to foil Luffys where Sanji And Luffy are searching for a mythical treasure but Zoro and Luffy are searching To acquire a title of power.

Also, dreams don’t distinguish conquerors from non conquerors. Willpower does. By your logic of dreams = CoC then Krieg , Crocodile, Tashigi, and the fodder Okama from Marineford also should have CoC. But they don’t despite sharing the same dream as Luffy and Zoro.
Dont forget Top 5 Judge also had Kingly Ambitions. And Saniji's Ancestors had Kingly Ambitions as well. Sanji must have inherited it then:steef:
 
#67
Read all manga not spesific parts :)
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Sanji dont have any problem about speed. He can keep the fire he produces up to the limits of his leg.

Exosceleton and armanent haki unlocked to keep blue flames.

Everybody knows if sanji keep your leg limiatation , sanji have to have coating.



These will always stays unresponded question. Only matter how can a cook match zoro :) Zoro fans are not good feeling in nowadays. Be merciful
Just the part where he made the decision to leave his crew and abandon the SHs to "deal with this family issues" only to be bailed out by SHs

That's not the ambition of a King
 
#68
I'm sorry but this imaginary requirement for CoC eludes me to this day

What kingly ambition do a lot of CoC users have? What kingly ambition did WB have? What about Rayleigh, Katakuri, and Big Mom?

What about Ace for that matter? You know, the guy who was dead set on making another man the king instead of himself
I think it's more about someone's personality and willpower than it is about having a specific ambition.

It's more likely that those who do have Kingly Ambitions or whatever usually end up being CoC users, not the other way around

I still think Sanji getting CoC is unlikely but who knows
 
#69
Just the part where he made the decision to leave his crew and abandon the SHs to "deal with this family issues" only to be bailed out by SHs

That's not the ambition of a King
Willingness to sacrifice his own freedom and happiness to save the lives of his loved ones.

There is nothing more kingly than that
 
#72
who beat an inferior YC2 with the power ups that daddy gave him
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Pretty sure there's plenty of panels to show that Sanji have "kingly ambitions"
"Hey, there are several panels that prove you wrong. But I'm not going to post them because... Because I don't want? Don't get me wrong, the panels are the but I just don't want to post them."
 
#73
These threads are getting boring

Such low quality baits treated as such mindblowing stuff by Zbois for no reason

Bring back Roronoa-sama, atleast he is funny
 
#77
I think it's more about someone's personality and willpower than it is about having a specific ambition.

It's more likely that those who do have Kingly Ambitions or whatever usually end up being CoC users, not the other way around

I still think Sanji getting CoC is unlikely but who knows
It's not even that I think he'll get it I just don't like how people are framing it as an impossibility because he has a weak will or no "kingly ambitions" when the latter isn't a requirement in the first place

Multiple CoC users have had their will broken and a quarter of them don't have what I would consider kingly ambitions yet they have CoC

The Baratie panel is something people love to bring up while ignoring everything else that comes from the same arc. Zeff said Sanji has the same grit that Luffy has yet he stifled it because of Zeff. Just like Ace originally wanted to garner fame and reach the top himself but decided to make WB the PK instead

I don't even know why I bothered to reply to Comrade after he made his agenda crystal clear. Can't get through to someone like that
 
#78
It's not even that I think he'll get it I just don't like how people are framing it as an impossibility because he has a weak will or no "kingly ambitions" when the latter isn't a requirement in the first place

Multiple CoC users have had their will broken and a quarter of them don't have what I would consider kingly ambitions yet they have CoC

The Baratie panel is something people love to bring up while ignoring everything else that comes from the same arc. Zeff said Sanji has the same grit that Luffy has yet he stifled it because of Zeff. Just like Ace originally wanted to garner fame and reach the top himself but decided to make WB the PK instead

I don't even know why I bothered to reply to Comrade after he made his agenda crystal clear. Can't get through to someone like that
For me, if you have the quality of a King, you can get CoC. As simple as that, Kingly ambitions are a +.
 
#79
For me, if you have the quality of a King, you can get CoC. As simple as that, Kingly ambitions are a +.
The quality of a king thing is so incredibly vague that you could find a way to say everyone has the qualities of a king. I could probably find a couple panels that make Chopper look like a CoC user but I'm 99% sure he doesn't have it

I think CoC is completely random. If Oda wants to give it to someone he will and if he doesn't want to he won't

Chinjao had his will broken by Garp and didn't even attempt to do anything for the rest of his career but he has CoC and Law (who risked his life trying to overthrow 2 Yonko) doesn't yet

It makes no sense to me but that's how Oda is writing the story
 
#80
Just the part where he made the decision to leave his crew and abandon the SHs to "deal with this family issues" only to be bailed out by SHs

That's not the ambition of a King
kingly ambition is not necessary condition for having coc . Whitebeard is the biggest example for that .
 
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