Anime & Manga How did Sanji fans cope with the fact Zoro has kingly ambitions?

matt245

matt245

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#81
Luffywankishere said:
The quality of a king thing is so incredibly vague that you could find a way to say everyone has the qualities of a king. I could probably find a couple panels that make Chopper look like a CoC user but I'm 99% sure he doesn't have it

I think CoC is completely random. If Oda wants to give it to someone he will and if he doesn't want to he won't

Chinjao had his will broken by Garp and didn't even attempt to do anything for the rest of his career but he has CoC and Law (who risked his life trying to overthrow 2 Yonko) doesn't yet

It makes no sense to me but that's how Oda is writing the story
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I mean a true king, someone who fits the role of a King in a Kingdome. And only a few of those characters have it imo.
 
Welkin

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#82
#82
matt245 said:
I mean a true king, someone who fits the role of a King in a Kingdome. And only a few of those characters have it imo.
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Fair but even then it's kinda weird

Garp isn't kinglike yet it might as well be confirmed that he has CoC

I think the requirements are wayyyyy too loose. Like obviously we can rule out characters like Chopper, Franky, Bartolomeo, etc but there are other characters like Sabo Law Sanji and Killer that all have a chance
 
matt245

matt245

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#84
bennbeckman said:
Had no idea Whitebeard did the exact same thing as Sanji and voluntarily left his crew
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And attacked one of his crewmates (that wasn't defending himself mind you) willingly. Nor do I remember him telling his friends to throw his dreams away. Or dressing himself as a woman forgot that one.
 
mrtsrdr

mrtsrdr

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#86
#86
bennbeckman said:
Had no idea Whitebeard did the exact same thing as Sanji and voluntarily left his crew
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why are u so obsessive about leaving crew ? Is there any law related to this ? He believe his life debt is bigger than his dream . That is it . Like zoro preferred protecting captain instead of his dream . Your logic said that he should give his captain to kuma to come true his dream . But zoros determination does not affect from this . Long story short , leaving crew is not arbitrary preferences . Sanji had to
 
bennbeckman

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#87
#87
mrtsrdr said:
why are u so obsessive about leaving crew ? Is there any law related to this ? He believe his life debt is bigger than his dream . That is it . Like zoro preferred protecting captain instead of his dream . Your logic said that he should give his captain to kuma to come true his dream . But zoros determination does not affect from this . Long story short , leaving crew is not arbitrary preferences . Sanji had to
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That's the thread, and the biggest and clear argument to why Sanji doesnt have CoC

Me: Sanji doesnt have CoC because like his counterparts (Nami, Usopp) he also left the crew

You: I Will ask a bunch of rhetorical questions and statements filled with my narrative and bring up bad counterpoints to show he does have CoC.

Sanji didn't have to leave the crew he choose to leave the crew. Most ironic part is Zoro explained it (the whole Sanji situation) best on Zou.
 
Doggo

Doggo

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#88
bennbeckman said:
That's the thread, and the biggest and clear argument to why Sanji doesnt have CoC

Me: Sanji doesnt have CoC because like his counterparts (Nami, Usopp) he also left the crew

You: I Will ask a bunch of rhetorical questions and statements filled with my narrative and bring up bad counterpoints to show he does have CoC.

Sanji didn't have to leave the crew he choose to leave the crew. Most ironic part is Zoro explained it (the whole Sanji situation) best on Zou.
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But isnt Usopp unlocking CoC in Elbaf?
Isn't it a pretty popular (and dumb) theory around these parts?
 
bennbeckman

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#90
Doggo said:
But isnt Usopp unlocking CoC in Elbaf?
Isn't it a pretty popular (and dumb) theory around these parts?
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0 way Usopp unlocks CoC, if he for some miracle reason does then I will be open to Sanji unlocking it as well.

What Usopp did was much worse than what Nami did and Sanji did.

Dressrosa proved Usopp is the Mr Satan of OP
 
mrtsrdr

mrtsrdr

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#91
#91
bennbeckman said:
That's the thread, and the biggest and clear argument to why Sanji doesnt have CoC

Me: Sanji doesnt have CoC because like his counterparts (Nami, Usopp) he also left the crew

You: I Will ask a bunch of rhetorical questions and statements filled with my narrative and bring up bad counterpoints to show he does have CoC.

Sanji didn't have to leave the crew he choose to leave the crew. Most ironic part is Zoro explained it (the whole Sanji situation) best on Zou.
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you are strange guy :)
The only person who deserve coc is zoro . We dont need to discuss :) but say zoro dont pick up opponents that is close sanjis opponent :)
 
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Formerly Seth

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#98
Gol D. Roger said:
Sanji will get CoC too.
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Still, it would be completely irrelevant. Zoro destroys him.

Having CoC doesn't automatically elevate you above others. Look at Kidd, Chinjao, or Yamato.

+ Kingly ambition, lmao. This mfker wants to see a fish pond and finally touch some pussy. Oda would shoot himself in the knee giving such a wasteman CoC after calling it "Kingly ambitions".
 
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