Chapter Discussion I found this in the tweet, was the title of the strongest living creature in the world translated by a fan of the admiral?
Lmao, Roger was called pirate king because he found the one piece, and we know he in fact found the one piece.
Kaido was called the WSC because that's what a lot of people believed apparently, but it's not like he beat every living top tier to actually prove that.
Again, Oda could have introduced Kaido the same way he did Mihawk and WB. He didnt.
Kaido was called the WSC because that's what a lot of people believed apparently, but it's not like he beat every living top tier to actually prove that.
Again, Oda could have introduced Kaido the same way he did Mihawk and WB. He didnt.
I'm back and forth on this, both Kaido and Luffy wasted a lot of stamina before their final showdown (Kaido taking a gauntlet and Luffy literally dying), but Goofy gave Kaido a beat down and was able to trivialize a lot of Kaido's move set. In a fresh encounter, I'm not sure Luffy would lose as much stamina against Kaido.
But Imu is a secret, nobody knows about him. He could be the god of this world and it wouldn't devalue Kaido's title. I mean, WB was also WSM yet Roger was equal to him. It doesn't make WB a fraud either, does it?
Let's not forget that Kaido beat Luffy twice before the 3rd round even started. Also, Luffy replenished his energy again by eating while Kaido had no breaks when fighting Yamato at the same time. Dude was constantly fighting while Luffy at least managed to refresh his energy.
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Let's not forget that Kaido beat Luffy twice before the 3rd round even started. Also, Luffy replenished his energy again by eating while Kaido had no breaks when fighting Yamato at the same time. Dude was constantly fighting while Luffy at least managed to refresh his energy.
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Yes, man, that's undeniable due to the portrayal and feats that Kaido possesses. However, the translation issue needs to be clarified because it's the same phrase used to describe when Roger came to be known as the Pirate King. The guy on Twitter said this... In this panel, there's no longer the "said to be," but it's "known as," even though the Japanese text here is the same as the introduction you pointed out as being incorrect, and that's why all this controversy.
So, what's the difference between Roger being called or known as Pk, and Kaidou being a pirate known as WSC? This doesn't deny that Kaidou is the WSC, nor that Roger is the PK, it just validates it.
Now post the whitebeard one where they don't call him WSM.
So, what's the difference between Roger being called or known as Pk, and Kaidou being a pirate known as WSC? This doesn't deny that Kaidou is the WSC, nor that Roger is the PK, it just validates it.
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Now post the whitebeard one where they don't call him WSM.
that's not how it works bro , Mihawk is the WSS in Name and Actuality ; secret or no secret he's the strongest swordman ; let's say Venus is a secret so what ? Mihawk > Venus because Author is confirming it in ACTUALITY !
So by Default , if Kaido is the WSC in Name ( said / known / refered as ..... ) and actuality (VC , Marines , Credible Characters confirming it ....) then Kaido is above all either they are secret or not because it's Oda who controls OP World !
remember that the WB we saw during flashback of oden was in his prime and the only title he had is being a great pirate ! he probably only got this title after Roger got weakened with sickness
WB's title also applies to the current universe since Roger was weakened and afterwards he died , as for the strength it was before when Roger was still a little healthy while at the end of his voyage he was shown to be gradually weakened that even shanks noticed that , You also imply with ur words that Kaido can be equal to IMU while having the WSC which doesn't even make sense as we already know Imu gonna be stronger than even Prime beard and Roger who are a tier above the likes of Kaido since PK Luffy who would fight her/him after beating teach who should have at that time surpassed Kaido's strength ! so how Kaido can be the WSC in name and actuality while another creature is stronger than him ? so a title with no reference and base especially when we got them having mythical zoans
how would they call WB the WSM while he's dead blud ?
should they mention Ryuma and says the WSS Ryuma while another has to be one 
So by Default , if Kaido is the WSC in Name ( said / known / refered as ..... ) and actuality (VC , Marines , Credible Characters confirming it ....) then Kaido is above all either they are secret or not because it's Oda who controls OP World !
remember that the WB we saw during flashback of oden was in his prime and the only title he had is being a great pirate ! he probably only got this title after Roger got weakened with sickness
WB's title also applies to the current universe since Roger was weakened and afterwards he died , as for the strength it was before when Roger was still a little healthy while at the end of his voyage he was shown to be gradually weakened that even shanks noticed that , You also imply with ur words that Kaido can be equal to IMU while having the WSC which doesn't even make sense as we already know Imu gonna be stronger than even Prime beard and Roger who are a tier above the likes of Kaido since PK Luffy who would fight her/him after beating teach who should have at that time surpassed Kaido's strength ! so how Kaido can be the WSC in name and actuality while another creature is stronger than him ? so a title with no reference and base especially when we got them having mythical zoans
how would they call WB the WSM while he's dead blud ?
should they mention Ryuma and says the WSS Ryuma while another has to be one
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that's not how it works bro , Mihawk is the WSS in Name and Actuality ; secret or no secret he's the strongest swordman ; let's say Venus is a secret so what ? Mihawk > Venus because Author is confirming it in ACTUALITY !
So by Default , if Kaido is the WSC in Name ( said / known / refered as ..... ) and actuality (VC , Marines , Credible Characters confirming it ....) then Kaido is above all either they are secret or not because it's Oda who controls OP World !
remember that the WB we saw during flashback of oden was in his prime and the only title he had is being a great pirate ! he probably only got this title after Roger got weakened with sickness
WB's title also apply to the current universe since Roger was weakened and afterwards he died , as for the strength it was before when Roger was still a lil healthy while at the end of his voyage was shown to be gradually weakened that even shanks noticed that , You also imply with ur words that Kaido can be equal to IMU while having the WSC which doesn't even make sense as we already know Imu gonna be stronger than even Prime beard and Kaido who are a tier above the likes of Kaido since PK Luffy who would fight her/him after beating teach who should have at that time surpassed Kaido's strength ! so how Kaido can be the WSC in name and actuality while another creature is stronger than him ? so a title with no reference and base especially when we got them having mythical zoans
how would they call WB the WSM while he's dead blud ? should they mention Ryuma and says the WSS Ryuma while another has to be one
So by Default , if Kaido is the WSC in Name ( said / known / refered as ..... ) and actuality (VC , Marines , Credible Characters confirming it ....) then Kaido is above all either they are secret or not because it's Oda who controls OP World !
remember that the WB we saw during flashback of oden was in his prime and the only title he had is being a great pirate ! he probably only got this title after Roger got weakened with sickness
WB's title also apply to the current universe since Roger was weakened and afterwards he died , as for the strength it was before when Roger was still a lil healthy while at the end of his voyage was shown to be gradually weakened that even shanks noticed that , You also imply with ur words that Kaido can be equal to IMU while having the WSC which doesn't even make sense as we already know Imu gonna be stronger than even Prime beard and Kaido who are a tier above the likes of Kaido since PK Luffy who would fight her/him after beating teach who should have at that time surpassed Kaido's strength ! so how Kaido can be the WSC in name and actuality while another creature is stronger than him ? so a title with no reference and base especially when we got them having mythical zoans
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how would they call WB the WSM while he's dead blud ?
should they mention Ryuma and says the WSS Ryuma while another has to be one
Here comes the wall of text because it had the point refuted, it was using Brannew as an argument and stating that he knew everything and that he mentioned that Mihawk was WSS, he mentioned that Roger was Pk, and what was the reason why he didn't mention that WB was the WSM? His whole point was broken and now he's turning to Databook. LMAO
What is the difference between both statements below?
You have no argument blud , a Strength Title is given to alive people not dead ones ; yourself hypes your title without reading it :
Whilst any other title like PK which has no reference to strength can be used since , it's an achievement that someone has to do through voyage and can only obtained if someone else achieved it while if a Strength title holder died another one gets it ; let me understand what you want to say :
So who is the WSM ? dead Whitebeard or someone else alive in this Era ?
This is the difference :
Brannew :
<< He earned the respect of ferocious Pirates through his individual strength ALONE ..... Until he was worthy of The Title Of World Strongest Pirate / Creature / Man Emperor of sea >>
> Another Difference :
The Actuality of that fact !
Whilst any other title like PK which has no reference to strength can be used since , it's an achievement that someone has to do through voyage and can only obtained if someone else achieved it while if a Strength title holder died another one gets it ; let me understand what you want to say :
So who is the WSM ? dead Whitebeard or someone else alive in this Era ?
This is the difference :
Brannew :
<< He earned the respect of ferocious Pirates through his individual strength ALONE ..... Until he was worthy of The Title Of World Strongest Pirate / Creature / Man Emperor of sea >>
> Another Difference :
The Actuality of that fact !
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You have no argument blud , a Strength Title is given to alive people not dead ones ; yourself hypes your title without reading it :
Whilst any other title like PK which has no reference to strength can be used since , it's an achievement that someone has to do through voyage and can only obtained if someone else achieved it while if a Strength title holder died another one gets it ; let me understand what you want to say :
So who is the WSM ? dead Whitebeard or someone else alive in this Era ?
This is the difference :
Brannew :
<< He earned the respect of ferocious Pirates through his individual strength ALONE ..... Until he was worthy of The Title Of World Strongest Pirate / Creature / Man Emperor of sea >>
> Another Difference :
The Actuality of that fact !
Whilst any other title like PK which has no reference to strength can be used since , it's an achievement that someone has to do through voyage and can only obtained if someone else achieved it while if a Strength title holder died another one gets it ; let me understand what you want to say :
So who is the WSM ? dead Whitebeard or someone else alive in this Era ?
This is the difference :
Brannew :
<< He earned the respect of ferocious Pirates through his individual strength ALONE ..... Until he was worthy of The Title Of World Strongest Pirate / Creature / Man Emperor of sea >>
> Another Difference :
The Actuality of that fact !
Sengoku called Whitebeard the WSM, that's one person saying that WB is the WSM... There's no difference between that and people saying WB is the WSM, the difference here is in plurality.
Kaido being known/called the WSC is the same as Roger being called or known as PK, the point is that every time they refer to Roger, they won't say he was the PK, just as they won't call Kaido the WSC. Brannew referred to Whitebeard by his standard name during the reward reveal and didn't call him the WSM (World's Strongest Man), just as he didn't call Kaido the WSC, but he called Roger and Mihawk PK and WSS. They won't always refer to Zoro as the pirate hunter, "Oh, that's Zoro, the pirate hunter," just Zoro in some occasions.
You keep spamming this debunked comment as if there's no tomorrow. LOL
Honestly, I don't know who to trust anymore, I'm going to ask a Japanese teacher so I can clear up my doubts.
Like that time I asked about Mihawk wanting to measure the gap between him and the Wb.
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The Fraud Watchers going after the 3 WS title holders have always been a funny gang...
I have explained it all into details: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/night-of-the-dragonson.47826/
Kaido's only competition and possible superior is Mihawk. And of course Zoro who is created to surpass Mihawk as well.
Either way, Kaido has been #1 of the verse for a long time and at the worst he fell to #2 if Mihawk surpassed him.
All other agendas cant do anything to this man. Oda would need to retcon that with Imu.
Blackbeard doesnt seem to be that guy, maybe not even with 3rd fruit but we will see. Nobody will get a WS title, imo.
I have explained it all into details: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/night-of-the-dragonson.47826/
Kaido's only competition and possible superior is Mihawk. And of course Zoro who is created to surpass Mihawk as well.
Either way, Kaido has been #1 of the verse for a long time and at the worst he fell to #2 if Mihawk surpassed him.
All other agendas cant do anything to this man. Oda would need to retcon that with Imu.
Blackbeard doesnt seem to be that guy, maybe not even with 3rd fruit but we will see. Nobody will get a WS title, imo.
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Tell him @Fleet Leader Fenakerthe guy has been denying left and right that Kaidou is the WSC.
It doesnt matter who translated it in reality its just false hype already proven to be wrong by actual feats / events in manga.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=ht...bp&s=6e535cf5ea6018ab6fa74e55f26cb7975f70c2e3
Strongest creature in history well too bad Joy Boy is part of One piece history and he already beat Kaido proving that hype was false . No discussion needed here.
In fact manga already said Kaido lost 7 times we dont know when exactly but his feats are not proving sh1t.
1. Needed distraction to beat Oden who had knocked his dragon form, gave him huge scar , when he was about to finish him Oda made that guy distract Oden for Kaido to win .
2. Wanted to kill Whitebeard , faced Shanks who stopped him by unknown means , we know Shanks arrived without any injury.
3. Fought Big mom for 3 days ended in a tie.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=ht...bp&s=6e535cf5ea6018ab6fa74e55f26cb7975f70c2e3
Strongest creature in history well too bad Joy Boy is part of One piece history and he already beat Kaido proving that hype was false . No discussion needed here.
In fact manga already said Kaido lost 7 times we dont know when exactly but his feats are not proving sh1t.
1. Needed distraction to beat Oden who had knocked his dragon form, gave him huge scar , when he was about to finish him Oda made that guy distract Oden for Kaido to win .
2. Wanted to kill Whitebeard , faced Shanks who stopped him by unknown means , we know Shanks arrived without any injury.
3. Fought Big mom for 3 days ended in a tie.
--Kaido always underestimate his opponents and starts in dragon form. Scabbards also made dragon Kaido fall but later he destroyed them in base. Oden has no answer to thunder bagua + FS
--Shanks had his entire crew against Kaido and King. WB also ran from fodder marines. BBP ran from CP0 etc. Shanks failed to give Kaido any scar for that matter.
--Not an all out fight. Kaido in 1037 mentions it that.
--Nowhere it is mention Kaido lost in one on one fight in prime.
--Shanks had his entire crew against Kaido and King. WB also ran from fodder marines. BBP ran from CP0 etc. Shanks failed to give Kaido any scar for that matter.
--Not an all out fight. Kaido in 1037 mentions it that.
--Nowhere it is mention Kaido lost in one on one fight in prime.