Controversial If One piece has a great ending, will it be the best shonen ever?
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The "greatest" doesn't necessarily mean the "best".
I will stand by my point that no matter what Oda does, in overall terms of storywriting shonen like Full Metal Alchemist or Hunter X Hunter are better (at least by the standards I have when judging writing).
OP is still a very good shonen manga and its sheer scale, worldbuilding and global fan following makes it the greatest shonen, if the ending is at least "good".
I will stand by my point that no matter what Oda does, in overall terms of storywriting shonen like Full Metal Alchemist or Hunter X Hunter are better (at least by the standards I have when judging writing).
OP is still a very good shonen manga and its sheer scale, worldbuilding and global fan following makes it the greatest shonen, if the ending is at least "good".
If Oda said, the awakening of the Gom Gom is the current G5, and it was the same fruit as Nika, would you be ok with it? The awakening is "the power of stretching reality" or something, even this kinda makes sense when we have fruits like Doffy or Law that can do anything they want already, like parasite or silence.
And g4 makes perfect sense without the retcon, hardened gum is hard, and Luffy using hardening is kinda like vulkanization.
If Slam Dunk is seinen, which is not, then also CSM, which is crap.
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I still don't understand the rating of HxH, it's extremely cahotic manga, and to me, it still looks like a poor's man Jojo. There is the whole frivolous politics, but at the core it's still a monster of the week manga.
And g4 makes perfect sense without the retcon, hardened gum is hard, and Luffy using hardening is kinda like vulkanization.
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Nah, Slam Dunk is on their level, but it's a Seinen more than a Shounen. 
And CSM >>>>> OP.
And CSM >>>>> OP.
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I still don't understand the rating of HxH, it's extremely cahotic manga, and to me, it still looks like a poor's man Jojo. There is the whole frivolous politics, but at the core it's still a monster of the week manga.
Lmao. "Copy" Kishimoto? You mean the same author that decided to introduce 4 other major nations and 3 endgame villains in the last 20% of the story for a world war and drag that shit to oblivion?
One Piece has had 95% of its factions established years before Kishimoto even went this route. In fact. Marineford already set up the final world war while Naruto barely started its timeskip. Imu as an entity is still part of the WG, something far older than the idea you are trying to paint about the series. Imu has more development than Kaguya and hes still a fucking silhouette
One Piece has had 95% of its factions established years before Kishimoto even went this route. In fact. Marineford already set up the final world war while Naruto barely started its timeskip. Imu as an entity is still part of the WG, something far older than the idea you are trying to paint about the series. Imu has more development than Kaguya and hes still a fucking silhouette
Lmao. "Copy" Kishimoto? You mean the same author that decided to introduce 4 other major nations and 3 endgame villains in the last 20% of the story for a world war and drag that shit to oblivion?
One Piece has had 95% of its factions established years before Kishimoto even went this route. In fact. Marineford already set up the final world war while Naruto barely started its timeskip. Imu as an entity is still part of the WG, something far older than the idea you are trying to paint about the series. Imu has more development than Kaguya and hes still a fucking silhouette
One Piece has had 95% of its factions established years before Kishimoto even went this route. In fact. Marineford already set up the final world war while Naruto barely started its timeskip. Imu as an entity is still part of the WG, something far older than the idea you are trying to paint about the series. Imu has more development than Kaguya and hes still a fucking silhouette
I’d say the only thing a bit iffy are the holy knights but even then them not being introduced sooner can be explained by them only becoming active when they are directly attacked.
I agree on a character intro basis, the Burned Man, CP0, Rocks and God Knights all probably didnt have standing to exist prior, but hes done a good job tying them to "something":
Burned Man: 4th RP
Rocks: Garp "The Hero", all Yonko allegedly
CP0/God Knights: Earlier scenes that depicted the WG having high commanders of some form here
Id even argue that outside of the God Knights or CP0 members, there are more WG positions under Kong that we just dont know about.
Burned Man: 4th RP
Rocks: Garp "The Hero", all Yonko allegedly
CP0/God Knights: Earlier scenes that depicted the WG having high commanders of some form here
Id even argue that outside of the God Knights or CP0 members, there are more WG positions under Kong that we just dont know about.
Nah.
One Piece was never "the best" even pre-ts, it was okay but slowly and surely was written disastrously along the way. Pre-ts gets Nostalgia pass from a lot of people but if you actually go and reread it now. It's mixed with good and terrible post timeskip alike writing.
Post timeskip is just an abomination of a story.
One Piece was never "the best" even pre-ts, it was okay but slowly and surely was written disastrously along the way. Pre-ts gets Nostalgia pass from a lot of people but if you actually go and reread it now. It's mixed with good and terrible post timeskip alike writing.
Post timeskip is just an abomination of a story.
