General & Others If Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe will face the calamities, the rest of the mugiwaras will face the flying six
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Usopp definitely must get one of Numbers,but none of the Numbers are weak. Why the hell these Kaido's subordinates,that are giant monsters,would be weak? Only for weak characters defeat them? And Usopp isn't more the same of before Time-Skip. He was trained by Heracles in Boin Archipelago. He can defeat really dangerous characters now. So,one of the Numbers will be perfect for Usopp show the sea warrior he becamed.
Is a tremendous insult for the Numbers think Nami,the Straw Hat Crew's fodder,can defeat one of them. All she can do against them is another of her famous girl in danger moments,with Sanji being humiliated trying save her.
You not learned in that thread i posted how Chopper vs Linlin is meaningless for peoples? You need better things for defend Chopper. The disregard of these peoples to with him is so damn big.
Is a tremendous insult for the Numbers think Nami,the Straw Hat Crew's fodder,can defeat one of them. All she can do against them is another of her famous girl in danger moments,with Sanji being humiliated trying save her.
You not learned in that thread i posted how Chopper vs Linlin is meaningless for peoples? You need better things for defend Chopper. The disregard of these peoples to with him is so damn big.
Who said that Mont-d Or, Gallette, Opera and his siblings, Custard, Bavarios, Raisin, Yuen, decuplets, 2nd daughter, Tamago, Struesen, Amande and her twins etc... aren't Veteran level?(Veteran means someone who's been on service for too long, you guys should go back to school) It's apparent to me that they are indeed on the same level as Daifuku and Oven, it's just that Oven, Daifuku, Pero and Compote are the strongest Veterans, and all of them are actually called Yonko commanders(the title isn't just exclusive to the top three, since all of them have command over the fodders). So the whole ranking system of the fandom is whack
Basically the numbers and F6 headliners can range from Bobbin's level up to Snack's or even Cracker's level actually( I can see Ten having a bounty around 800 mil, and people like Page One having a bounty of a mere 100/200 mil), so yeah it's not outside the realm of possibility for Nami and Usopp to defeat a number/F6(even though I think that Usopp will defeat Jack)
I think we should re-evaluate how we rank Yonko officers and drop the whole Veteran level because it's inaccurate and confusing.
So this is how we should rank them;
Low teir YC: such as the regular headliners and weakest ministers, all of whom should be a one shot for the monster trio
Mid teir YC: basically ppl who will give the M3 a hard time but isn't really a challenge such as Gallete, Opera'd siblings, Bobbins, some at least 2 of the flying 6 and numbers from Six to Two
High teir YC: people who would pose a challenge to the M3 but will ultimately get defeated mid-high diff by them; such as Oven, Daifuku, Tamago, Pero Snack, Ace from WB's crew, the strongest 2 of the F6, and Seven, Eight, Nine and Ten from the numbers.
Top YC: basically the top 3 of each crew, and they can be sub-divided into YC1, YC2 and YC3, even though I don't think this is quite accurate since imo Jack for example is stronger than both Cracker and Smoothie, while King and Queen are both stronger than Katakuri
So this is how we should rank them;
Low teir YC: such as the regular headliners and weakest ministers, all of whom should be a one shot for the monster trio
Mid teir YC: basically ppl who will give the M3 a hard time but isn't really a challenge such as Gallete, Opera'd siblings, Bobbins, some at least 2 of the flying 6 and numbers from Six to Two
High teir YC: people who would pose a challenge to the M3 but will ultimately get defeated mid-high diff by them; such as Oven, Daifuku, Tamago, Pero Snack, Ace from WB's crew, the strongest 2 of the F6, and Seven, Eight, Nine and Ten from the numbers.
Top YC: basically the top 3 of each crew, and they can be sub-divided into YC1, YC2 and YC3, even though I don't think this is quite accurate since imo Jack for example is stronger than both Cracker and Smoothie, while King and Queen are both stronger than Katakuri
Wait, are you serious? And after having such a high opinion on Jack like bellow?
I agree with your idea btw. (Im just not sure if i would arange them the same way as you, as i dont think the difference in strengh between each Number and each Tobbi Roppo is that big), i never know what is a veteran level since there are so many veterans and their strength ranges quite a lot. Its like sayin Vice Admiral level imo. It becomes even more difficult to arange when we know that Whitebeard had 16 commanders, and now Teach has 10 captains. Shanks has a 10ish main crew as well.
I agree with your idea btw. (Im just not sure if i would arange them the same way as you, as i dont think the difference in strengh between each Number and each Tobbi Roppo is that big), i never know what is a veteran level since there are so many veterans and their strength ranges quite a lot. Its like sayin Vice Admiral level imo. It becomes even more difficult to arange when we know that Whitebeard had 16 commanders, and now Teach has 10 captains. Shanks has a 10ish main crew as well.
He doesn't have to defeat him in a straight fight; this is how I'm picturing the fight going:
First it will be Jack vs the dukes and even after they go Sulong form I don't think it will be enough to defeat him, but the thing is I think Jack's awakening is like a berserker mode but he's still sane to some extent, so he'll follow Usopp around because Usopp pissed him off, and after Jack catches up to him he'll beat the living hell out of him, he'll play dead for some time but as Jack is trashing everyone in the alliance and even injures Bepo, Shachi and Penguin, so Usopp will have to stand up and devise some kind of plan in order to defeat Jack for good. Despite knowing Usopp as a weak guy, I believe that he along with Sanji and Zoro will become top commander level, but unlike the latter, his strength is dependent on his mind and plans, kinda like Batman from DC
First it will be Jack vs the dukes and even after they go Sulong form I don't think it will be enough to defeat him, but the thing is I think Jack's awakening is like a berserker mode but he's still sane to some extent, so he'll follow Usopp around because Usopp pissed him off, and after Jack catches up to him he'll beat the living hell out of him, he'll play dead for some time but as Jack is trashing everyone in the alliance and even injures Bepo, Shachi and Penguin, so Usopp will have to stand up and devise some kind of plan in order to defeat Jack for good. Despite knowing Usopp as a weak guy, I believe that he along with Sanji and Zoro will become top commander level, but unlike the latter, his strength is dependent on his mind and plans, kinda like Batman from DC
There is no such a thing as Veteran level, because the word Veteran means someone who's been in service for too long, and we have a lot of people who were part of the beast pirates since 20 years ago and he's just some Gifter, Drake has only been a pirate for 3 years and he's a F6, so the word Veteran is misplaced here. I insist that in terms of rank and authority the numbers are higher than the F6 and on the same rank as the three calamities (All-Stars), but in terms of strength them and the F6 are around the same level, with at least 3 members from the F6 and Two to Six from the numbers being a mid commander level and the rest of the F6 and Seven, Eight, Nine and Ten being of high commander level. By the way Big mom has a lot of high commander level ppl, it's just that only Oven, Daifuku and Pero were highlighted but from the Big mom pirates, we have Tamago, Amande, Mont d' or, Strussen, Compote and Snack probably being on the same level as Oven and Daifuku with Snack and Pero being the strongest of the high commanders from the big mom pirates, but I still see them as a lil bit weaker than Ten and Nine from the beast pirates with Ten being very close to Cracker(I think Ten will be Jinbei's match)
Usopp relies on tricks, traps and keeping distance to his enemies. Hes at his best when he awaits an opponent, remember his good showing vs Luffy? He knew Luffy was coming so he set up the battlefield to counter him. Now in a war when they have to charge forward, this advantage of his is neutralized. Hes best suited to stay in the back and support the others with his long range attacks, better than being confronted by an enemy 1on1. Then later in the war when the top dogs make their way to Kaido, BM, commanders, and most of the fodder is out, he can get a fight. Someone said Mont dor? That would be a good matchup, because hes stronger and gives Usopp the chance to surpass him in battle
The Tobbi Roppo are special headliners, they are similar in power otherwise there would be no point seperating them from the rest. The Numbers imo are part of Kaidos original crew, before it became so huge. I thought they would be right bellow the allstars in terms of power, but the way Kaido hyped his tobbi roppo last chapter makes me feel different. So imo its 1. allstars 2. tobbi roppo 3. numbers 4. fodder (Hawkins just joined so hes still just a headliner). So basically the way i see it, If the tobbi roppo and numbers are all over the place strength wise, there is no point in grouping them this way
I'm certain the Headliners are where Kaido places pirate captains who wish to serve him giving that's where he placed Hawkins, Drake, and no doubt Apoo. They joined with their crew rather than as sole members.
Robin neg diffed Spandam from a far distance. I'd say Spandam was Usopp's and Robin's match-up even though Franky was thrown into the mix.
Robin neg diffed Spandam from a far distance. I'd say Spandam was Usopp's and Robin's match-up even though Franky was thrown into the mix.