General & Others If Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe will face the calamities, the rest of the mugiwaras will face the flying six

#82
The Tobi Rokko will be considered godly unsurmontable enemies by half the folk here.

Then the minute the first one gets taken down from an attack by either Ussop, Chopper or Nami, the same people will be calling them irredeemable trash.
Maybe their bounties can say otherwise, its not the Tobi Roppo's fault that Oda doesn't care about fights other than the Monster Trio. Forget Ussop, Chopper or Nami. I've been waiting for a good Robin 1v1 fight since Skypiea.

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#83
I’ve always assumed the SHP were going to fight black beards crew 1v1. It’s hard for me to imagine the weak trio keeping up if the mid trios at that level. How strong do you think BBs weakest guys are?
I guess around vet level too but at the same time idk how big the gap is between the weak and mid trio is tbh especially then

Also i stuggle seeing s, z, and j solos the calamities this arc too
Like the second strongest bb pirate can range from Beckman to mihawk level imo.so its pretty difficult to use the bb pirates
 
#84
There is no doubt the BB battles will be 1 v 1, it's all been set up this way perfectly, BB has 10 commanders, Luffy wants 10 people (only 1 more to go probably Carrot)
Wano is the place for the crew to evolve to the next level just as they did during Enies Lobby, they have too, it's now or never basically
I wouldn’t say it’s their last chance, they still have at least a couple arcs left. I just think the SHPs weak trio would have to be above vet level eos to fight BBs crew.
 
#85
I wouldn’t say it’s their last chance, they still have at least a couple arcs left. I just think the SHPs weak trio would have to be above vet level eos to fight BBs crew.
Not much to go after this, only arcs i can think of are Elbaf, Laugh Tale and the Final War, even with power ups here on Wano I think they'll still a farther boost after that.
 
#86
I guess around vet level too but at the same time idk how big the gap is between the weak and mid trio is tbh especially then

Also i stuggle seeing s, z, and j solos the calamities this arc too
Like the second strongest bb pirate can range from Beckman to mihawk level imo.so its pretty difficult to use the bb pirates
I hear you on the soloing. It depends on how long this arc is and how many opponents they have to make it look credible
 
#87
I hear you on the soloing. It depends on how long this arc is and how many opponents they have to make it look credible
I really hope Act 3 consists of fights outside the mansion and gives all the SH a victory over a named oponent from the Tobi Roppo, Big Moms lesser kids and the numbers.
Act 4 would be the battles inside the mansion and again i'd give the SH another victory over named Opponents could be the Oniwabanshu or the Mimawarigumi and obviously the big 4 get the commanders and Kaido and so on.
 
#88
Brook vs perospero sounds logically for me.

Brook among the strawhats got closer to Pedro who died trying to take down perospero. I dont think brook had gone all out ever since his fight against ryuma, and add to yhe fact that it was just at this point he'sreaching the potential of his df.
 
#89
Agreed with everything, they don't stand a chance in an honest battle, but Luffy doesn't stand a chance against Kaidou, Zoro shouldn't stand a chance against King but here we are.
That's not comparable.

Luffy and Zoro are the top fighters of the crew, they basically live to fight and their characters revolve around fighting. Plus Zoro already showed he's above the likes of F6 and Luffy has shown that he can tangle with top commanders. They even got PUs after showing that. The next step up for them is obvious.

Meanwhile Franky & Co. haven't even shown they can take care of the guys below the F6 like Tamago.
 
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#90
It is hard to know who will fight who cause BM pirates, Orochi forces and the 9 scabbards and samurai, Law and Kidd pirates are involved in this whole fight

If it was just sh mink and samurai thisis what I think would happen:
9 scabards against numbers
Hyogoro and samurai against Orochi forces
Weak trio and mid trio against f6

However, with all the other people involved I dont know where everyone will fit in.

1 think people need toremember isthat in w7 nobody thought the sh could beable to take on the cp9. However, a couple of hours later they wrecked cp9.

Right now it might seem like mid trio and weak trio are not able to take on f6, but it might change later
 
#91
The Tobi Rokko will be considered godly unsurmontable enemies by half the folk here.

Then the minute the first one gets taken down from an attack by either Ussop, Chopper or Nami, the same people will be calling them irredeemable trash.
Quoted for sad truth.

Still, i'd like Usopp, Chopper and Nami to have really something to shine. Usopp needs to polish his Haki, Nami needs to show that she is more than a glorified auto-pilot for the Sunny and Chopper needs to be taken seriousl by the Marine. It's the goddamn Zoan arc, time for him to Awaken his fruit, damn it !
 
#92
I think the Flying Six might be reserved for a separate force - Sword maybe? or even Germa (tho I’m not very optimistic on the later’s involvement on Wano)

As much as I’d love to see the rest of the SHs soloing Flying Six I just can’t see how atm. The combination of Brook & Chopper were of no threat to Perorin. Pedro was also weaker than Perospero & was unable to take him out even with his suicide attack. With the exception of Luffy, Zoro, Sanji & Jinbe, the only SH I think could pull it off is Franky & he’d have to use General Franky & get a power up on top of it.

That said tho, the fact that there’s a female amongst them could potentially hint at the SHs (save the M3 & Jinbe) fighting them coz the only relevant females we have on the alliance side are Nami, Robin, Carrot & Wanda but Carrot already has beef with Perorin and Wanda is strong but I can’t really see Oda giving her a 1 v 1 & against the Flying Six, which leaves only Nami & Robin. Also never thought Nami could beat someone as strong as Khalifa on EL but she did😓so I’m not brave enough to say it’s impossible 😂. I could defo see 2 v 1s against the Flying Six tho.

e.g.
Franky & Robin v Flying Six
Usopp & Chopper v Flying Six
Nami & Brook v Flying Six

Either that or 1 v 1s like:
Chopper (will prolly need an Insane power up akin to what he got on EL) v Number
Brook v Amande etc.

What’s weird tho, is that oddly enough I can see Nami taking out compote 🤣. Not coz I think she’s that much weaker than the Flying six but coz the Flying six are most likely all ancient zoans.

That said I do think the weaker SHs getting 1 v 1 against the likes of Amande, Mont Dor is a bit underwhelming but I might be underestimating the enraged army commanders a bit😅
 
#93
I think the Flying Six might be reserved for a separate force - Sword maybe? or even Germa (tho I’m not very optimistic on the later’s involvement on Wano)

As much as I’d love to see the rest of the SHs soloing Flying Six I just can’t see how atm. The combination of Brook & Chopper were of no threat to Perorin. Pedro was also weaker than Perospero & was unable to take him out even with his suicide attack. With the exception of Luffy, Zoro, Sanji & Jinbe, the only SH I think could pull it off is Franky & he’d have to use General Franky & get a power up on top of it.

That said tho, the fact that there’s a female amongst them could potentially hint at the SHs (save the M3 & Jinbe) fighting them coz the only relevant females we have on the alliance side are Nami, Robin, Carrot & Wanda but Carrot already has beef with Perorin and Wanda is strong but I can’t really see Oda giving her a 1 v 1 & against the Flying Six, which leaves only Nami & Robin. Also never thought Nami could beat someone as strong as Khalifa on EL but she did😓so I’m not brave enough to say it’s impossible 😂. I could defo see 2 v 1s against the Flying Six tho.

e.g.
Franky & Robin v Flying Six
Usopp & Chopper v Flying Six
Nami & Brook v Flying Six

Either that or 1 v 1s like:
Chopper (will prolly need an Insane power up akin to what he got on EL) v Number
Brook v Amande etc.

What’s weird tho, is that oddly enough I can see Nami taking out compote 🤣. Not coz I think she’s that much weaker than the Flying six but coz the Flying six are most likely all ancient zoans.

That said I do think the weaker SHs getting 1 v 1 against the likes of Amande, Mont Dor is a bit underwhelming but I might be underestimating the enraged army commanders a bit😅
Compote is a bit too much for Nami unless she has help then maybe, Robin is the one I can maybe see taking out Compote or the female flying six member. Nami will probably take out either Galette or a regular female headliner, also Brook vs Amande is a fight I can maybe see happening. Characters like Mont-d'Or and Amande should be decently strong, yeah they are not in the same level as a veteran or a flying six but they aren't that weak either. Mont-d'Or's book df ability should make him a very tough and tricky opponent to defeat, and Amande who seems like a decently powerful swordsmen was able to easily cut Perospero's candy which is something that is not easy to do.

Personally I don't think any of the SHs will fight the flying six instead I think four of the Scabbards will fight four of the flying six, while X Drake who will soon reveal his betrayal will fight and defeat one of the flying six members maybe the leader.
 
#95
It’s hard to gauge someone like Nami’s power level where her attack power is very high(akin to BMs vets or higher) but her defensive capabilities seem lacking. I could see her fighting a flying six member, where she more than likely would have to have an in fight PU, or someone like Gilette. It just depends how long Oda plans on spending with their individual fights (it is a war).
 
#96
I'm placing my bets but I know fully well Oda will throw curveballs and mix this up way more. Its mainly just what I want lol.

THE MAIN 4
Luffy vs. "Ace" (I'm rolling with this one for now)
Zoro vs. King
Sanji vs. Queen
Jinbe vs. Jack

SCABBARDS
Red Scabbards vs. Numbers (2-10); If Kanjuro somehow returns to being good/is redeemed, then he can join. If now, he will be a fight for Kin'emon probably.

THE SUPERNOVA
Kid vs. Smoothie; her 2 sisters. (I feel its only right that Kid/Law face sweet commanders if Luffy and his top face All-Stars)
Law vs. Snack (Bepo vs. the Decuplets to take revenge for Peckoms :p)
Killer vs. Daifuku
Hawkins vs. Mont d'Or (trippy)
Drake vs. Tobi Roppo leader (guy with the nice pair of shoes in front; leaves only 4 left)
Apoo vs. A number

Marines/SWORD
Koby vs. Oven/Perospero
Hancock vs. Campote/Smoothie (yes, I'm serious about Koby and her being friends because of Luffy and Koby "contracting" her to fight for the Marines).

Strawhats
Franky vs. a Tobi Roppo (possibly even Page One depending on how he fared against Sanji; seemed like a rough, destructive fighter)
Brook vs. the Samurai Tobi Roppo
Nami vs. the Female Tobi Roppo
Chopper vs. a Tobi Roppo
Robin vs. Onibawanshu (The full team)
Usopp vs. Orochi (I'm absolutely serious about this; it sounds amazing in my head lol)


THEN
All Supernova vs. Kaido (Zoro cuts him; Luffy gets the finishing blow)
Neko's recruitments etc/everyone else. vs Big Mom (to hold her off)

There are things like Inu/Neko vs. Jack or Carrot vs. Perospero that people want, who knows? Mimiwarigumi could be warmups for some characters. Maybe some extra Orochi retainers get introduced (there were a few powerful looking guys at his first party) and serve as cool samurai type fights for some of the Scabbards.
 
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#97
@HA001 @Zenos7 @Light D Lamperouge @nik87 @Sade @Admiral Lee Hung @gojo
This thread is a proof of why i get along with so few peoples here. You guys should participate more of discussions as this and make more justice for Chopper.
Back to topic:
Zoro vs King
Franky's opponents: Queen, Daifuku
Shachi vs Raisin
Law vs the Flying 6 that wore fancy pants and shoes
Bepo vs Yuen
Robin vs the Flying 6 woman
Usopp's opponents: Mont D'Or,one of Numbers(none of Numbers are weak. Let's stop of downplay Usopp.)
Chopper's opponents: Perospero,Tablet,Jack,Gion,the cheerful demon looking Number that once defeated alone Inuarashi,Nekomamushi,Ashura and Denjiro.
I need wait until more enemies be introduced to know opponents for Eustass,Brook and Jinbe.
Nami,Sanji and Carrot vs fodders(because that's what they are.)
 
#98
@HA001 @Zenos7 @Light D Lamperouge @nik87 @Sade @Admiral Lee Hung @gojo
This thread is a proof of why i get along with so few peoples here. You guys should participate more of discussions as this and make more justice for Chopper.
Back to topic:
Zoro vs King
Franky's opponents: Queen, Daifuku
Shachi vs Raisin
Law vs the Flying 6 that wore fancy pants and shoes
Bepo vs Yuen
Robin vs the Flying 6 woman
Usopp's opponents: Mont D'Or,one of Numbers(none of Numbers are weak. Let's stop of downplay Usopp.)
Chopper's opponents: Perospero,Tablet,Jack,Gion,the cheerful demon looking Number that once defeated alone Inuarashi,Nekomamushi,Ashura and Denjiro.
I need wait until more enemies be introduced to know opponents for Eustass,Brook and Jinbe.
Nami,Sanji and Carrot vs fodders(because that's what they are.)
Well, Chopper needs to stop being ass first post-timeskip and then people will have more respect for him. Oda set him up very well in Fishman Island, but then really did some wonky shit with him in Punk Hazard/WCI. He has had 1 good moment in Wano so far. He really needs a proper fight, yes.
 
#99
If they're separate by a semicolon (;), then it means they're separate fights.

Luffy VS Big Mom; Kaido
Zoro VS Orochi; King
Nami VS Weaker Number
Usopp VS Weaker Number
Sanji VS Queen
Chopper VS Stronger Number
Robin VS Stronger Number
Franky VS Stronger Number
Brook VS Stronger Number
Jimbei VS Jack
??? VS Four Leftover Numbers
Grand Fleet (including future members) VS Big Mom Pirates

Law and Kid fight Kaido with Luffy until they're beaten.
 
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