Powers & Abilities Is Kaido the strongest character?

Do you (still) think that Kaido is the strongest?


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Imu sama shouldn't be considered..........
Imu-sama - glory be thy name - fits into no existing category for which to contend with other characters. WSS/WSM/WSP/WSC? She's not a man, let alone of this world.

What if I told you the Gorosei were in contact with 👽
Or that devil fruit users unknowingly play host to parasitical organisms who ultimately answer to their Queen Hive-Mother.
OR that "haki" is really just a micro-scopic lifeform that lives symbiotically inside the cells of all living things and is at odds with the devil fruit aliens in an ancient war that goes back to the dawn of time!
 
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There are some things to add at this point. On one hand Kaido get the "strongest pirate" label from Kidd, Zoro and Killer if I am not mistaken, so this adds to the fishy title he get in his introduction, this is already an improvement from the simple "people says" yet on the other hand we had in the very last chapter Zoro tank a combo attack from Kaido and BM.. There are at least another 3 long arcs left, most likely more (or so I hope), eventually, be it the next arc or the arc after that, the SH will have to face stronger enemies since they have become stronger. Be it that in the next arc Luffy takes down an emperor level villain solo but what for the next arc after that?

As I see it now Oda is trolling both Kaido and BM, if we compare what Kaido did to Luffy in their first "fight" and what is happening now there is no logic. Anyway as the result now Kaido and BM are losing hype like crazy while the SN5 and Zoro (and Luffy) in particular are gaining all what the 2 yobkos are losing.. Imo at this point it is pretty much assured BB (obviously) but also Shanks (but most likely even Dragon and other people) will be stronger than BM and Kaido. Hell if this keeps going like this Oda could even "forget" all the hype for the emperors in general he built in the years through the marines (marines trembling when 2 yonkos meet each other, Garp saying there is nothing they can do if the Rocks reform etc.) to make the admirals possible viable villains for an arc after Wano, or simply really build up IM or the Gorosei as powerhouses (while people like Garp, Sengoku and Kong should be out of the equation for the "villain" spot).

Also by this point I think that everybody is expecting Luffy to rise up almost fine in the next chapter, I expect it too by this point, but if somebody was told this at the beginning of Wano I think everybody would have said that if base Luffy took a strong hit from hybrid Kaido he would be at the very least unconscious again like in the first fight (and not worse cause of plot power and because this is a shounen) yet the cards are completely different now.
 
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There are some things to add at this point. On one hand Kaido get the "strongest pirate" label from Kidd, Zoro and Killer if I am not mistaken, so this adds to the fishy title he get in his introduction, this is already an improvement from the simple "people says" yet on the other hand wr had in the very last chapter Zoro tank a combo attack from Kaido and BM.. There are at least another 3 long arcs left, most likely more (or so I hope), eventually, be it the next arc or the arc after that, the SH will have to face stronger enemies since they have become stronger. Be it that in the next arc Luffy takes down an emperor level villain solo but what for the next arc after that?

As I see it now Oda is trolling both Kaido and BM, if we compare what Kaido did to Luffy in their first "fight" and what is happening now there is no logic. Anyway as the result now Kaido and BM are losing hype like crazy while the SN5 and Zoro (and Luffy) in particular are gaining all what the 2 yobkos are losing.. Imo at this point it is pretty much assured BB (obviously) but also Shanks (but most likely even Dragon and other people) will be stronger than BM and Kaido. Hell if this keeps going like this Oda could even "forget" all the hype for the emperors in general he built in the years through the marines (marines trembling when 2 yonkos meet each other, Garp saying there is nothing they can do if the Rocks reform etc.) to make the admirals possible viable villains for an arc after Wano, or simply really build up IM or the Gorosei as powerhouses (while people like Garp, Sengoku and Kong should be out of the equation for the "villain" spot).

Also by this point I think that everybody is expecting Luffy to rise up almost fine in the next chapter, I expect it too by this point, but if somebody was told this at the beginning of Wano I think everybody would have said that if base Luffy took a strong hit from hybrid Kaido he would be at the very least unconscious again like in the first fight (and not worse cause of plot power and because this is a shounen) yet the cards are completely different now.
zoro says said to be as well
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
I'm skeptical about him being the strongest because his title doesn't feature in the databooks unlike WSS, unless Oda was improbably somewhat playing/being over secretive.

Zoro himself questioned his hype out of the blue, improbable that Oda would portray something so casual if it didn't eventually be onto something unless it was just a reckless manifestation of wanting to test.

That in a 1 on 1 bet on Kaido statement seems to be lining in a different direction however.
 
No, he is not. I would even say he is the weakest Yonko, not by much, but a little weaker. Shanks and Teach are stronger than him by logic. WB was the strongest man in the world. And BM seems to have more resistance to physical attacks than Kaido even without having dragon scales.
 
No, he is not. I would even say he is the weakest Yonko, not by much, but a little weaker. Shanks and Teach are stronger than him by logic. WB was the strongest man in the world. And BM seems to have more resistance to physical attacks than Kaido even without having dragon scales.
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Hyped to be WSC/WSM/WSP and WSM by oda in SBS............shanks is not hyped as such.............BB is feat less............hakai attack is much bigger than anything WB did not taking heavens and earth as that is AOE feat..........one shotted luffy and so on
 
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Hyped to be WSC/WSM/WSP and WSM by oda in SBS............shanks is not hyped as such.............BB is feat less............hakai attack is much bigger than anything WB did not taking heavens and earth as that is AOE feat..........one shotted luffy and so on
Kaido has lost many times and has been captured as well. By logic, he cannot be the strongest.

- WB had the title of the strongest man in the world.
- EoS Teach will be the strongest Yonko.
- Shanks prevented Kaido from going to MF and probably won the fight or Kaido ran away out of fear.
- BM is more tank than Kaido.
 
Kaido has lost many times and has been captured as well. By logic, he cannot be the strongest.

- WB had the title of the strongest man in the world.
- EoS Teach will be the strongest Yonko.
- Shanks prevented Kaido from going to MF and probably won the fight or Kaido ran away out of fear.
- BM is more tank than Kaido.
Yeah........no where it is stated that was in his prime condition and one on one........

-Yeah WB is dead and was sick which no one knew..........
-Yeah EOS Teach > kaido > current teach..........
-Yeah.......shanks was not injured at all...........and no we do not know what happened..........and if that is the case shanks should be hyped as strongest which is not the case..........
- No evidence...........kaido has been taking way more hits than BM.........
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
No, he is not. I would even say he is the weakest Yonko, not by much, but a little weaker. Shanks and Teach are stronger than him by logic. WB was the strongest man in the world. And BM seems to have more resistance to physical attacks than Kaido even without having dragon scales.
I would place Kaido on average yonko level more probably. But he might be better than that, it has to be found out.

His AP seems to be superior to BM's but he lacks her level of physical pure strenght it would so far appear at least. About durability, I would wait, because Queen seemingly probably contributed in putting her down to sleep.
 
His hype might not be unquestionable but it's pretty good regardless. Oda having 5 Supernova gang up on him this arc, after the 9 Scabbards gave it their best shot, leaves room for Luffy's future opponents to be below Kaido. It doesn't mean that whoever comes after him is bound to be stronger just cause it's after, especially when those will likely be 1v1's. Whoever Luffy faces 1v1 next arc isn't undoubtedly stronger since it'll take plenty of help for Luffy to bring down Kaido this arc and Big Mom isn't going to be assisting him going forward.

Kaido has quite a lot of hype going for him, has some insane durability feats, has hella destructive attacks and has really good armament haki. In a 1v1 always bet on Kaido and I think he's likely the strongest character alive excluding Im.

Dragon doesn't need to be the strongest man alive to do what he does and his strength hasn't been hyped like Kaido's. Teach will get stronger like Luffy but for now, I see Kaido as above him. Akainu is Fleet Admiral and he's monstrously strong but I still see Kaido as stronger due to hype but Akainu is easily one of the strongest characters as well. Big Mom is close to Kaido in strength but little portrays her as his superior. Shanks stopped him from coming to Marineford, ended the Marineford War and was acknowledged by Kaido but we still don't know the circumstances surrounding the situation. Shanks was spotless and I don't see there being such a huge gap that he whooped him before heading to Marineford. Kaido is likely the one villain Luffy will have to defeat with so many other people's help so for now, I have him as he strongest. I might be wrong but we'll see as the series progresses and I acknowledge that there are plenty of good arguments for Shanks, Mihawk and Akainu being stronger.
 
There are some things to add at this point. On one hand Kaido get the "strongest pirate" label from Kidd, Zoro and Killer if I am not mistaken, so this adds to the fishy title he get in his introduction, this is already an improvement from the simple "people says" yet on the other hand we had in the very last chapter Zoro tank a combo attack from Kaido and BM.. There are at least another 3 long arcs left, most likely more (or so I hope), eventually, be it the next arc or the arc after that, the SH will have to face stronger enemies since they have become stronger. Be it that in the next arc Luffy takes down an emperor level villain solo but what for the next arc after that?

As I see it now Oda is trolling both Kaido and BM, if we compare what Kaido did to Luffy in their first "fight" and what is happening now there is no logic. Anyway as the result now Kaido and BM are losing hype like crazy while the SN5 and Zoro (and Luffy) in particular are gaining all what the 2 yobkos are losing.. Imo at this point it is pretty much assured BB (obviously) but also Shanks (but most likely even Dragon and other people) will be stronger than BM and Kaido. Hell if this keeps going like this Oda could even "forget" all the hype for the emperors in general he built in the years through the marines (marines trembling when 2 yonkos meet each other, Garp saying there is nothing they can do if the Rocks reform etc.) to make the admirals possible viable villains for an arc after Wano, or simply really build up IM or the Gorosei as powerhouses (while people like Garp, Sengoku and Kong should be out of the equation for the "villain" spot).

Also by this point I think that everybody is expecting Luffy to rise up almost fine in the next chapter, I expect it too by this point, but if somebody was told this at the beginning of Wano I think everybody would have said that if base Luffy took a strong hit from hybrid Kaido he would be at the very least unconscious again like in the first fight (and not worse cause of plot power and because this is a shounen) yet the cards are completely different now.

If we assume for example( note this is fantasy)

If luffy faces and beats kizaru, and then goes and fights kuzan, and defeats him.

While both opponents are of the same strenght, the fight dynamic is completly different. in my opinion there is no need to linear growth of stronger and stronger and stronger, just different fights with same strength.
 
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