Powers & Abilities Is Oden's haki inside Enma?

[Sword God Ryuma]

I don't think so
I think Enma takes Zolo's haki and changes it to penetration haki and boost his AP as well

It's the only sword Zolo has that can hurt Kaido

Where you getting Swords can change your Haki level to penetration Haki from? No its not and Oden cut Kaido with both his Swords

 

[spawn]

We literally see him get cut by 2 sword style.

That doesn’t matter. The relevant sword when it comes to that scar has always been Enma. There’s something special about it.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

That doesn’t matter. The relevant sword when it comes to that scar has always been Enma. There’s something special about it.

What that gotta do with what i said. Both Swords cut him.

 

[kurwa]

Where you getting Swords can change your Haki level to penetration Haki from?

because he can only cut Kaido with it...

Oden cut Kaido with both his Swords

Okay and?
Oden could've learned penetration haki on his own
or maybe Habakiri has same effect as Enma

 

[nik87]

We didnt get to see it but Scabbards have the ability to teleport Enma into their hands whenever they attack Kaido.
That's the only reason they managed to cut Kaido. Enma was behind it all! :yasu:

 

[Kuruka]

yes...as ive already stated plenty of times. Kaido never mentions zoro's power when fighting him he ALWAYS specifies enma the sword. AND he recognizes oden in it.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

because he can only cut Kaido with it...

Okay and?
Oden could've learned penetration haki on his own
or maybe Habakiri has same effect as Enma

Yea your making all this up.

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We didnt get to see it but Scabbards have the ability to teleport Enma into their hands whenever they attack Kaido.
That's the only reason they managed to cut Kaido. Enma was behind it all! :yasu:

Lmao bro these guys are delusional. Mans said Enma raised Zoro CoA level to penetration and allowed him to cut Kaido.

 

[spawn]

What that gotta do with what i said. Both Swords cut him.

We see both swords cut him and yet Enma is described as the only one to scar Kaido, we will understand why later on.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

We see both swords cut him and yet Enma is described as the only one to scar Kaido, we will understand why later on.

Hyori wasn't even there and we the audience sees things they don't. Oden used two sword style and made an x.

 

[Doggo]

Hyori wasn't even there and we the audience sees things they don't. Oden used two sword style and made an x.

Makes no sense to talk only about Enma and not Ame-no-Habakiri then.

 

[Edwar.D.O]

Hyori wasn't even there and we the audience sees things they don't. Oden used two sword style and made an x.

Frankly Hiyori should shut her mouth about matters that she wasn’t involved in. Giving us some bs story when the flashback shows otherwise

 

[Kuruka]

Where you getting Swords can change your Haki level to penetration Haki from? No its not and Oden cut Kaido with both his Swords

how does oden cutting kaido with both swords prove anything?
the scabbards(odens underlings) cut kaido without enma. why wouldn't Oden himself be able to do the same?

since zoro doesn't know internal destruction he has to rely on enma unlike oden.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Looks like Viz also doesn't say or imply Enma has Oden's Haki

Spoiler

 

[Fn Lucci]

True. I don't believe that Zoro is thinking "I'm gonna milk this Oden's Haki".
Oden's attacks dont have that aura because it was Oden himself using the sword.
Now we have someone else using it.
I don't know how much this "oden's aura/will" is actually having some kind of actual gain for Zoro's attacks. But Oda flashes Enma out A LOT. "I need to release Enma more", using Enma for that slash that cut the mountain horn, now Kaido recognizing Enma as Oden's sword, the Big Mom "that's no ordinary sword".
What I think is happening: Zoro is gonna get compared to Oden for some time. It MIGHT be only for this fight, or it might extend for a while.
The reason for that is, Zoro has currently 2 breakpoints regarding Oden.
1- Opening Kaido's scar. When he does it, that's when Oda will say "Zoro is now equal to Oden".
2- Turning Enma into a permanent black blade. That's when Oda will say "Zoro is now SUPERIOR to Oden".

So, until that second breakpoint is reached, Oden is still gonna me mentioned and used as a measurement for Zoro's growth.
It might be just until the end of this fight, or maybe it will carry over for another fight. That I don't have a very solid opinion on. But the rest seems to be they way we are heading.

1. Pre timeskip Zoro was able to manifest spiritual energy and which swords he used was irrelevant. Enbima and Asura are sensed and they also have nothing to do with other characters. In this arc Kaido immediately thinks of Oden when he encounters Haki in others and even Luffy's slow ass manages to correctly identify two borrowed sword techniques. But Oda is referencing Oden with this Haki and intentionally avoids mentioning it or making anything look similar to readers?

2. Zoro himself doesn't speak on anything along those lines. If it has something to do with a guy he never met, he might be a little surprised or something. Instead he trucks along with his Santoryu as opposed to Ittoryu as if the difference isn't great enough to just focus on Enma. More than anything the powerful quirk of Enma is just like how Shusui was absorbing the waves generated by the other swords until he really got used to it. Now it doesn't matter if he uses Shusui or not because it's about his skill raising from the experience and not the quirk of the sword.

 

[T.D.A]

Oden Hunter Zoro

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Oden Hunter Zoro

More like the user of Oden Oden no Mi: Model Haki Spirit lmao

 

[Edwar.D.O]

More like the user of Oden Oden no Mi: Model Haki Spirit lmao

Newly introduced “Special Mythical Type” move aside Katakuri

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Looks like Viz also doesn't say or imply Enma has Oden's Haki

Spoiler

Same thing

Enma unleashing Zoro's and Oden's haki at the same time
Kaido feels Oden's presence

 

[spawn]

Same thing

Enma unleashing Zoro's and Oden's haki at the same time
Kaido feels Oden's presence

Kaido feels Oden's presence because his soul resides in the sword, not because he has left a haki supply there.
Notice how Kaido feels Oden's presence and still finds the haki to be strange lol.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

how does oden cutting kaido with both swords prove anything?
the scabbards(odens underlings) cut kaido without enma. why wouldn't Oden himself be able to do the same?

since zoro doesn't know internal destruction he has to rely on enma unlike oden.

1. Cause yall think the Sword matters more then the Swordsman.
2. Exactly my point. Enma just a strong sword thats it. Oden can cut Kaido with other Swords cause he strong.
3. Once again your making this up. You don't know what Zoro knows and Enma has never been stated to give anybody different level of CoA. YOUR MAKING THAT UP