Current Events Is Sanji's true bounty 77 Million?

[ShishioIsBack]

Luffy finding Mr 3's clone is just as much CoO as the BoAT feat. (i.e. neither are, and took place before haki was properly fleshed out)

Dodging rocks and having swords spin around your arm is not on the same level as directly dodging a High high tier willfully trying to dismember him. You don't intimidate your opponent into having accurate future sight lol, maybe false visions. This was shown to us as readers and portrayed as his CoO being unlocked, with a call back coming with Koby unlocking his CoO very shortly after.

What? That was Luffy's intuition lmao, Zoro literally felt the presence of rocks and his blade which literally goes hand in hand with Rayleigh's statement regarding feeling presence on higher level.

Who cares if Haki was not fleshed out, we don't know what was in Oda's mind back then but things get retconned. Observation Haki was going to be used an arc later but it was not called Haki at the time rather a mantra.

Also what Mihawk did to Luffy is literally same as what Zoro did to Monet. Stop wasting my time with that bullshit, Luffy was shitting his pants and was fearing for his life
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If Mihawk wanted Luffy dead, Luffy would be dead, that was not the point of the scene. Point of the scene was to show that Mihawk can put fear of God in Luffy same way Zoro can put fear of God in Monet.

 

[SHIHI]

Better than Zoro’s fake bounty. It’s Orlumbus and Zoro who took down Pica.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Better than Zoro’s fake bounty. It’s Orlumbus and Zoro who took down Pica.

How is that fake?
What biased news reporter or high profile daddy's helped Zoro?

Defeating Pica with Orolumbus help gets you 320 like defeating Doffy with Law's and Dressrosa's help gets you 500 M
Soloing Doffy maybe gets you 800 M and soloing Pica gets you 500 M Idk.
But that's a feat for Pica.

Ya'll ain't helping your case by that example because Zoro by deserving means earned that bounty.

 

[WesMidnight]

What? That was Luffy's intuition lmao, Zoro literally felt the presence of rocks and his blade which literally goes hand in hand with Rayleigh's statement regarding feeling presence on higher level.

Who cares if Haki was not fleshed out, we don't know what was in Oda's mind back then but things get retconned. Observation Haki was going to be used an arc later but it was not called Haki at the time rather a mantra.

Also what Mihawk did to Luffy is literally same as what Zoro did to Monet. Stop wasting my time with that bullshit, Luffy was shitting his pants and was fearing for his life
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If Mihawk wanted Luffy dead, Luffy would be dead, that was not the point of the scene. Point of the scene was to show that Mihawk can put fear of God in Luffy same way Zoro can put fear of God in Monet.

If BoAT was haki Zoro would have recognized it as mantra, he didn't so it isn't, re-read 271.
It is not haki, it is mysticism instinct from swordsmanship like Asura, or intimidation, or being "chosen" by a blade, BoAT seems to include some limited elements of both CoA and CoO in application, but is presented very differently if you are paying attention.

This is complete nonsense, Luffy foreshadowed his talent with future sight with this FEAT and was shown as a clear image to the viewer, he had the ability to course correct and carry on, Monet had already been slashed and defeated, Zoro had already cut her but held back, wheras Mihawk failed at trying to stop Luffy, because the situation in the war was not in his control with all of the other members in the war.
Mihawk even says Luffy is unusually calm, hinting at something beyond normal combat sense- these are not the words of someone trying to intimidate, but someone surprised at the situation. Your head-canon is not supported by the pages in the manga.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

If BoAT was haki Zoro would have recognized it as mantra, he didn't so it isn't, re-read 271.
It is not haki, it is mysticism instinct from swordsmanship like Asura, or intimidation, or being "chosen" by a blade, BoAT seems to include some limited elements of both CoA and CoO in application, but is presented very differently if you are paying attention.

This is complete nonsense, Luffy foreshadowed his talent with future sight with this FEAT and was shown as a clear image to the viewer, he had the ability to course correct and carry on, Monet had already been slashed and defeated, Zoro had already cut her but held back, wheras Mihawk failed at trying to stop Luffy, because the situation in the war was not in his control with all of the other members in the war.
Mihawk even says Luffy is unusually calm, hinting at something beyond normal combat sense- these are not the words of someone trying to intimidate, but someone surprised at the situation. Your head-canon is not supported by the pages in the manga.

Clearly a face of a man not scared for his life
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And just because Zoro can use one form of CoO doesn't mean he has to recognize every form of CoO. Not everyone who knows about CoA knows about penetration Haki or barrier.

 

[WesMidnight]

Clearly a face of a man not scared for his life

And yet he dodges it and is called unusually calm for making that decision and half a year after this was published Koby unlocks CoO in the middle of the war in similar high stress situation and it is fleshed out.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

And yet he dodges it and is called unusually calm for making that decision and half a year after this was published Koby unlocks CoO in the middle of the war in similar high stress situation and it is fleshed out.

He doesn't dodge shit because Mihawk's swing never happens.
Show me Mihawk swinging there
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And if Luffy unlocked CoO there why didn't he know about it during Rayleigh training lmao?

Talk about playing yourself by asking me why Zoro didn't know about mantra

 

[WesMidnight]

He doesn't dodge shit because Mihawk's swing never happens.
Show me Mihawk swinging there
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And if Luffy unlocked CoO there why didn't he know about it during Rayleigh training lmao?

Talk about playing yourself by asking me why Zoro didn't know about mantra

It was the same slash that slashed the iceberg- that he dodged, if he'd extended he wouldn't have been able to dodge that slash- Mihawk was pre-cocked for this slash behind his back. This is all very basic stuff...

Zoro had an internal monologue about his TECHNIQUE and was well aware of it's abilities, Mantra was doing things it could not.

BoAT was something Zoro could do by will pre-skip yet he did not have the CoA haki damage output (or ability to cut Kuzan) or CoO awareness.

Luffy was using Haki by instinct and didn't understand either CoO or CoC, which at a very basic level are an intrinsic force, when Rayliegh shows CoC he focuses on Rayleigh's usage and doesn't even seem to realise he has used it multiple times himself, this is not analogous to Zoro somehow misdiagnosing mantra as a separate technique to something he was acutely aware of, and that is why BoAT is not CoO or CoA.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

It was the same slash that slashed the iceberg- that he dodged, if he'd extended he wouldn't have been able to dodge that slash- Mihawk was pre-cocked for this slash behind his back. This is all very basic stuff...

Zoro had an internal monologue about his TECHNIQUE and was well aware of it's abilities, Mantra was doing things it could not.

BoAT was something Zoro could do by will pre-skip yet he did not have the CoA haki damage output (or ability to cut Kuzan) or CoO awareness.

Luffy was using Haki by instinct and didn't understand either CoO or CoC, which at a very basic level are an intrinsic force, when Rayliegh shows CoC he focuses on Rayleigh's usage and doesn't even seem to realise he has used it multiple times himself, this is not analogous to Zoro somehow misdiagnosing mantra as a separate technique to something he was acutely aware of, and that is why BoAT is not CoO or CoA.

Right...
So now that we have established you have no argument and you are only blabbing, lets move on to the main point of this thread.

Sanji obviously hasn't earned 80% of his bounty

 

[ranady]

Sanji's true bounty is over 5B. He cracked 5th emperor skull easily

 

[RecoomeBoom]

I'd prefer it if it was 77M. He'd be as strong as Zoro but with the 3rd lowest bounty. It'd make for some opportune hijinks and villains underestimating Sanji's strength.

I remember when Bellamy thought Luffy was a low bounty fodder before reading the newspaper. It was a great moment.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

This is a bait thread not going to lie.

most subordinates piggyback their bounty off their captain. I mean for god’s sake, the marines don’t even know what cracker looks like.

 

[Monster trio]

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[HA001]

This is a bait thread not going to lie.

most subordinates piggyback their bounty off their captain. I mean for god’s sake, the marines don’t even know what cracker looks like.

Not a bait thread at all. Ive proven using the sbs and manga hes done nothing for any bounty increase post skip. And its yet to be refuted.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Not a bait thread at all. Ive proven using the sbs and manga hes done nothing for any bounty increase post skip. And its yet to be refuted.

its bait in that this is true for most crewmembers of any pirate crew, yet this thread is specifically aimed at Sanji because @ShishioIsBack knows it will elicit a reaction.

Like Oda literally confirmed that the marines have no idea how strong yonko commanders are and give them their bounty solely due to the fact that they are yonko commanders.

 

[HA001]

its bait in that this is true for most crewmembers of any pirate crew, yet this thread is specifically aimed at Sanji because @ShishioIsBack knows it will elicit a reaction.

Like Oda literally confirmed that the marines have no idea how strong yonko commanders are and give them their bounty solely due to the fact that they are yonko commanders.

No it aint. Ive broken it down.

Sbs vol 91
D: All the characters of “Yonkō Commander” class have very high bounties. Do their bounties ever go up simply for the reason that they are the Commander of XX Yonkō? P.N. Rice LOVE



O: Yes, I'd guess so. After the Dressrosa incident, all the people involved with the Straw Hat Crew got a flat 50 million increase due to being associated with Luffy. The crew members’ bounties often increase with their captain. This is because it is actually fairly difficult to appraise the strength of each individual person and assign a money value to them. It's hard (for the marines) to judge which subordinate contributed the most...


then to 330

says himself cause of germa

And the other 50 he got in dressossa was from judge who made it only alive.

So it canonically a manga fact his bounty has increased because of others.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

its bait in that this is true for most crewmembers of any pirate crew, yet this thread is specifically aimed at Sanji because @ShishioIsBack knows it will elicit a reaction.

Like Oda literally confirmed that the marines have no idea how strong yonko commanders are and give them their bounty solely due to the fact that they are yonko commanders.

This is
NOT
a
Bait

 

[HA001]

This is
NOT
a
Bait

Its mad. I genuinely think some of these guys are blind. Ive posted the canon proof (its in my post above) that proves youre right on this thread that they ignore it and scream bait.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Panels , arguments, the use of SBSs,etc.

"Clever people" : Bait thread

New thread gets created without any of the previous but bashes a character .

"Clever people " :Superb thread worth to be debated.

 

[Albino 👑]

All the non dressrosa stawhats got a boost of 50 mil which is at the very least pretty well deserved for them. If not arguably too low a boost
Especially with how much stronger/dangerous they all became. Like sanji not even the strongest came out able to oneshot pacifista

With sanji getting an extra 50 from judge
Bringing his bounty to a 177. With imo him deserving a higher one but he wasn't there for almost the whole arc so it makes sense.

With everything that went on in wci he went from 177 to 330
And while him being a vinsmoke upped his bounty it probably wasn't that much of it. Like luffy being a d related to ace, garp, and dragon didn't even up his bounty up much on its own. And imo thats arguably a bigger deal

Point is tho with everything they learned able him during wci they decide to give him the third highest bounty in the crew after luffy and jinbe