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How would they know of the PM....without this thread existing ? Why would this thread exist if no one writes anything in it ?:sanmoji:
"Those who wish to learn can come here and ask to be added to the pm."
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thread exist to advertise I guess. debates here may be more toxic than the politics thread
just a word of caution I guess.
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"Those who wish to learn can come here and ask to be added to the pm."
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thread exist to advertise I guess. debates here may be more toxic than the politics thread
just a word of caution I guess.
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I mean now theres another thread to debate religion. So hopefully everyone goes there to debate. This thread will only be for Islamic matters.
 
Quranic quote of the day:-
يٰٓاَيُّهَا الَّذِيۡنَ اٰمَنُوا اسۡتَعِيۡنُوۡا بِالصَّبۡرِ وَالصَّلٰوةِ ؕ اِنَّ اللّٰهَ مَعَ الصّٰبِرِيۡنَ‏
Title: The Cow
Chapter: 2
Verse: 153
“O you who believe, seek help through patience and prayer. Surely, Allah is with those who are patient.”
 
If we can make historically any sense, the word "Allah" as a spoken and written word is +1400 something years old. That's the age of the religion of Islam as well. As for the Bible, it won't make sense for the word, Allah appeared first on Bible. We're talking about "Accuracy of History" here, because Christianity and Judaism are older than Islam.
This needs paragraphs to explain but long story short, the word "Allah" which is the literal name of almighty God existed from the time of Abraham pbuh and Moses, Jesus and Mohammed peace and blessing be upon them all simply because they all spoke languages from the same semitic roots and their holy books were in those languages (Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic)
You will be amazed at how close these languages are because they all derived from the same root

Interestingly enough "Allah" is also used by Arab Jews and Christians till today as well
 
This needs paragraphs to explain but long story short, the word "Allah" which is the literal name of almighty God existed from the time of Abraham pbuh and Moses, Jesus and Mohammed peace and blessing be upon them all simply because they all spoke languages from the same semitic roots and their holy books were in those languages (Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic)
You will be amazed at how close these languages are because they all derived from the same root

Interestingly enough "Allah" is also used by Arab Jews and Christians till today as well
Allah means God. And all the Main Prophets were all from the middle east

Ibrahim/ Abraham - Iraq or Syria from the place of Haran. Went to Saudi Arabia to build the Kaaba and then to Palestine

Musa/Moses - Egypt

Isa/Jesus - Palestine

Muhammad - Saudi Arabia

Itd make sense if they all had the same name for God since they all come from around the same area.
 
According to the Quran, Allah first created the earth, then looked up to the sky to create the rest of the universe; sun, moon and stars. While he placed the stars in the nearest heaven, beneath sun and moon. And it took him twice as long to create the earth as compared to the rest of the universe.

Intellectually honest muslims would acknowledge that religion as man made based on this fact alone.

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Lol now that a heinous LIE
The Quran says:
"And have not the ones who disbelieved seen that the heavens and the earth were an integrated (mass), then We unseamed them, and of water We have made every living thing? Would they then not believe?" Al-anbiya verse 30

This basically describes the Big bang
Now remind me what did scientists say about the the origin of Life? That it's all from water (oceans) not to mention how basically all living things consist majorly of water

Also I think you are mixing the Quran with bible

Okay
didn't expect to contribute in this thread or to argue in it lol
Its should be only exclusive to talking about Islam peacefully (no offense to other faiths believes)
 
Allah means God. And all the Main Prophets were all from the middle east

Ibrahim/ Abraham - Iraq or Syria from the place of Haran. Went to Saudi Arabia to build the Kaaba and then to Palestine

Musa/Moses - Egypt

Isa/Jesus - Palestine

Muhammad - Saudi Arabia

Itd make sense if they all had the same name for God since they all come from around the same area.
Yes! Exactly all those prophets are middle eastern


But forgive me (and no offense to any Saudi brothers here I love you all) I get a little offended when Someone says our prophet is from SaUdI ArAbIa
Saudi Arabia was only a 100-200 years old country named after one family who acquired rule by force (well same as many nations at that era)

So accurately we should say he's from the Arabian peninsula
 
Yes! Exactly all those prophets are middle eastern


But forgive me (and no offense to any Saudi brothers here I love you all) I get a little offended when Someone says our prophet is from SaUdI ArAbIa
Saudi Arabia was only a 100-200 years old country named after one family who acquired rule by force (well same as many nations at that era)

So accurately we should say he's from the Arabian peninsula
Oh ok. That seems to make more sense.
 
Great :cheers:

Then I guess my favourite prophet story is Muhammad pbuh then Yusuf (Joseph) pbuh

He went from being thrown into a well and sold as slave into ruling Egypt! And most importantly forgiving his brothers
The beauty of how this story was told in the Quran how it started with Yusuf telling his father a dream he saw, and ended with an interpretation of that dream :amazing:
So beautiful
 
Great :cheers:

Then I guess my favourite prophet story is Muhammad pbuh then Yusuf (Joseph) pbuh

He went from being thrown into a well and sold as slave into ruling Egypt! And most importantly forgiving his brothers
The beauty of how this story was told in the Quran how it started with Yusuf telling his father a dream he saw, and ended with an interpretation of that dream :amazing:
So beautiful
Yeah I freaking love that. The Sun, Moon and Eleven stars protrating to him in a dream when he was a kid. And then the dream is fulfilled when he becomes an adult because the dream was about his family.:josad:
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I might check some of these stories out. They seems very interesting not gonna lie.
I deleted the post about Harut and Marut because im not sure if the story is real. However the Quran is filled with all these miraculous stories. Very beautiful.
 
I didn't see what you posted but Harut and Marut were mentioned in the Quran :choppawhat:
They are Angels if I recall correctly
Yh. They are.

Yesterday I read different articles talking about Harut and Marut as Angels who were given human desires to test them. They were given this because Harut and Marut used to complain to Allah about the disobedience of humans. And they wanted all humans punished. So Allah brought them to Earth to test them and gave them human desires. But they failed the test and were punished to teach humans magic.

Idk if its true or not. Some say it is...but other sources say Angels cant defy Allah. It could be possible but I dont think theres enough proof the story.
 
Lol now that a heinous LIE
The Quran says:
"And have not the ones who disbelieved seen that the heavens and the earth were an integrated (mass), then We unseamed them, and of water We have made every living thing? Would they then not believe?" Al-anbiya verse 30

This basically describes the Big bang
Now remind me what did scientists say about the the origin of Life? That it's all from water (oceans) not to mention how basically all living things consist majorly of water

Also I think you are mixing the Quran with bible

Okay
didn't expect to contribute in this thread or to argue in it lol
Its should be only exclusive to talking about Islam peacefully (no offense to other faiths believes)
Once I'm at home, I'll refute this sweet attempt.

Dunno why you think the Quran talks about the big bang. He just sees earth and heaven as 2 entities Allah separated. In reality, the earth formed several billion years after the big bang. But I'll go more into detail when at home, including posting verses.

Also, the origin or basis of life is carbon. Ancient philosophers where already much more precise scientifically than the Quran. Thales also said that water is the origin of life.
 
Once I'm at home, I'll refute this sweet attempt.

Dunno why you think the Quran talks about the big bang. He just sees earth and heaven as 2 entities Allah separated. In reality, the earth formed several billion years after the big bang. But I'll go more into detail when at home, including posting verses.

Also, the origin or basis of life is carbon. Ancient philosophers where already much more precise scientifically than the Quran. Thales also said that water is the origin of life.
I mean the Big Bang....is a theory. Thus the earth being formed billions year after the Big Bang....is also a theory.

The Quran supports some of the Big Bang Theory. Not only that put also says the Universe is expanding.

Again I dont want to turn this thread into a debate section....but can you link me to a book thats older than the Quran or as old that has as much factual scienticfic fact as the Quran....

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MANY SCIENTIFIC FACTS FOUND IN THE QURAN. IT IS IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT THE QURAN IS NOT A BOOK OF SCIENCE, BUT THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SCIENCE.


Universe
A mobile phone is clearly something that was put together in an organised way, so it would be rational
to believe that it must have an organiser. In the same way, when we see the order in the universe
around us, isn’t it rational to say that the universe has an organiser?

“We shall show them our signs in the universe and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them
that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your lord is the witness of all things?”[Quran, 41:53]

Origin of life
The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the
microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came
from water.

“We made every living thing from water? will they not believe?”[Quran, 21:30]

Embryology

“We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly
fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made
the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)…” (Quran 23:12-14).

Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore (one of the world’s most prominent scientists in the fields of
anatomy and embryology) : " It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad
from God, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later.

Sky’s protection
The sky protects the earth from the lethal rays of the sun. If the sky did not exist then the sun’s radiation
would have killed off all life on earth. It also acts like a blanket wrapped around the earth, to protect it
from the freezing cold of space. The temperature just above the sky is approximately -270oC. If this
temperature was to reach earth then the planet would freeze over instantly. The sky also protects life
on earth by warming the surface through heat retention.

“We made the sky a protective ceiling. And yet they are turning away from Our signs!” (Quran 21:32)

Iron
Iron is not natural to the earth. It did not form on the earth but came down to earth from outer space.
This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have found that billions of years ago the earth was stuck
by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded (M. E.
Walrath, History of the Earth’s Formation)

“We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind.” (Quran
57:25)





Seas and Oceans:
Modern Science has discovered that in the places where two different seas meet, there is a barrier
between them. This barrier divides the two seas so that each sea has its own temperature, salinity, and
density (1) [Principles of Oceanography, Davis, pp. 92-93]

"He has set free the two seas meeting together. There is a barrier between them. They do not
transgress". (Quran, 55:19-20).

Sun’s orbit
The belief that the Sun is stationary was widespread amongst astronomers until the 20th century. It is
now a well-established scientific fact that the Sun is not stationary, but is moving in an orbit around the
centre of our Milky Way galaxy.

“It is He who created night and day, the sun and the moon, each floating in its orbit.”[Quran, 21:33]

Mountains:
A book titled ‘Earth’ by Geophysicist Frank Press (Earth (ISBN 0716717433) by Press, Frank, Siever,
Raymond. W.H. Freeman, c1986.) explains that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under
the surface of the earth. Mount Everest, the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a
root deeper than 125 km.

“Did we not make the earth a resting place? and the mountains as stakes?”[Quran, 78:6-7]

Universe expanding
The fact that the universe is expanding was discovered in the last century. The physicist Stephen
Hawking in his book ‘A Brief History of Time’ writes, “The discovery that the universe is expanding was
one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.”

“And it is We who have built the universe with [Our creative] power and keep expanding it.”[ Quran,
51:47]

Skin pain receptors
For a long time it was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was dependent on the brain. However,
it has been discovered that there are pain receptors present in the skin. Without these pain receptors, a
person would not be able to feel pain.

"We shall send those who reject our revelations to the (hell) fire. When their skins have been burned
away, We shall replace them with new ones so that they may continue to feel the pain: God is
almighty, all-wise.”[Quran 4:56]









Oceans
It is commonly thought that waves only occur on the surface of the ocean. However, oceanographers
have discovered that there are internal waves that take place below the surface of the ocean. These
waves are invisible to the human eye, and can only be detected by specialist equipment.

“Darkness out in a deep ocean which is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are
clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly
see it. Those God gives no light to, they have no light.”[Quran, 24:40]

Lying & Movement

First, a book titled ‘Essentials of Anatomy and Physiology’ which includes the results of research on the
functions of this area states: “The motivation and the foresight to plan and initiate movements occur in
the anterior portion of the frontal lobes, the prefrontal area. The part of the brain that is responsible for
movement is said to be seized if the man does not stop. Secondly, numerous studies have shown that
this same region (frontal lobe) is responsible for the lying function of the brain. One such study at the
University of Pennsylvania in which volunteers were asked questions during a computerized
interrogation, it was found that when the volunteers were lying there was significantly increased activity
in the prefrontal and premotor cortices.

There was a cruel oppressive tribal leader named Abu Jahl who lived during the time of Prophet
Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Allah revealed a verse of the Quran to warn
him:

“No indeed! if he does not stop, We will seize him by the forehead, his lying, sinful
forehead.”[Quran, 96:15-16]. Allah does not call this person a liar, but calls his forehead (the front
part of the brain) ‘lying’ and ‘sinful’, and warns him to stop
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In truth.....yes the Quran may have some facts that may have come first from elsewhere. However it is consistent with science. No book comes close to it. And the fact it came down to a man who cant read nor write....and had to memorise it and have scribes.... Its the biggest miracle.
 
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