Speculations Jack was not defeated
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Better yet, let the strawhat crew fight him 1v8. Zoro and Sanji handle their fights (or I guess maybe fight each other at that point....), but Yamato helps the other 7 crew members fight him like an Oars battle.
Don't worry man I'll die on this ship with you lmaoXD
Either this or the crew will be used to hold off Linlin's crew once the island explosion plotline finishes. Or maybe both
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Imo, there HAS to be a reason Oda kept everyone so healthy. Either this was for Linlin's crew or there is a plot twist coming for one or several of Kaido's members.
Compare Franky's state post Senor Pink vs Sasaki. He's not even hurt. Brook didn't even have a fight. Usopp technically has not even been given anything good since the arc began. Same author gave him an amazing Sniper chapter almost 300 chapters ago. I personally feel this needs to lead to something eventually
Better yet, let the strawhat crew fight him 1v8. Zoro and Sanji handle their fights (or I guess maybe fight each other at that point....), but Yamato helps the other 7 crew members fight him like an Oars battle.
Don't worry man I'll die on this ship with you lmaoXD
Either this or the crew will be used to hold off Linlin's crew once the island explosion plotline finishes. Or maybe both
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Imo, there HAS to be a reason Oda kept everyone so healthy. Either this was for Linlin's crew or there is a plot twist coming for one or several of Kaido's members.
Compare Franky's state post Senor Pink vs Sasaki. He's not even hurt. Brook didn't even have a fight. Usopp technically has not even been given anything good since the arc began. Same author gave him an amazing Sniper chapter almost 300 chapters ago. I personally feel this needs to lead to something eventually
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I like it
Better yet, let the strawhat crew fight him 1v8. Zoro and Sanji handle their fights (or I guess maybe fight each other at that point....), but Yamato helps the other 7 crew members fight him like an Oars battle.
Don't worry man I'll die on this ship with you lmaoXD
Either this or the crew will be used to hold off Linlin's crew once the island explosion plotline finishes. Or maybe both
Better yet, let the strawhat crew fight him 1v8. Zoro and Sanji handle their fights (or I guess maybe fight each other at that point....), but Yamato helps the other 7 crew members fight him like an Oars battle.
Don't worry man I'll die on this ship with you lmaoXD
Either this or the crew will be used to hold off Linlin's crew once the island explosion plotline finishes. Or maybe both
I hope it's both
Momo's flame cloud stuff NEEDS to come into play soon (I'm honestly expecting this coming chapter), and the Kazenbo stuff can't be dragged out for long either (it's already in the basement floors). Once this is done, you are left with a lot of available crew members + Yamato to be open to new threats.
Like for sure, Oda can just have them fight fodder, but there is a clear open threat with CP-0 and Big Mom's crew. If the former is being handled by Apoo/Drake (at least 2 of the 3), then the latter is still a problem, however they reach Onigashima.
That's always been my play on the crew's usefulness, but if the F6 or Jack miraculously come back for certain events, I won't complain either.
Even if Jack does somehow get back up, I really don't think he will be getting another fight. We already saw Jack getting defeated twice, I don't think we will be seeing him getting defeated for a third time. Instead of getting back up to have another fight, maybe he will play a different role.
Either way for now Jack is done, I know some people wanted to see more from him and are really desperate to see him come back. But at some point you just have to accept that Jack is not coming back for a third round, it's clear that Oda wants to move on to the other fights and finish the Wano arc very soon which is probably why Oda had Jack get defeated very quickly.
Jack's time is done!
Now it's all about the Wildfire:king: and the Plague!:queenhear:
Either way for now Jack is done, I know some people wanted to see more from him and are really desperate to see him come back. But at some point you just have to accept that Jack is not coming back for a third round, it's clear that Oda wants to move on to the other fights and finish the Wano arc very soon which is probably why Oda had Jack get defeated very quickly.
Jack's time is done!
Now it's all about the Wildfire:king: and the Plague!:queenhear:
I think the last 30 chapters is pretty clear that there really isn't this intention to rush through the arc lol. He's spent longer on Sanji and Zoro's fights than he's ever done before in an arc.
Not saying that's grounds for Jack to get up, but I don't think he's rushing the arc in the slightest when the raid is now hitting 60 chapters and isn't even close to ending imo lol
Not saying that's grounds for Jack to get up, but I don't think he's rushing the arc in the slightest when the raid is now hitting 60 chapters and isn't even close to ending imo lol
I mean with the way Oda handled Jack's fight as well as the Tobi Roppo, and Hawkins's fight, I'm pretty sure Oda does want to finish the Wano arc very soon. Not saying he wants to rush through it but that he doesn't want to drag certain things out, also it's obvious that Oda wants to focus more on the important fights now like the Zoro and Sanji fight for example or the Kid and Law fight.
Touche, which you are probably right in that regard (the F6, Jack/Peros all have narrator defeats).
I'm just questioning if there is an ulterior motive. I.e.
If the BMP are a late game factor while those guys have their major fights (is Oda focusing on Apoo/Drake too)? idk, I just think it's far better to address unanswered things (Smoothie, Snack, Compote, etc) then having the crew just fight nameless fodder for the rest of the arc.
Like rn I'm questioning what Franky or Jinbe are even doing. Could the BMP arrive last minute on the performance floor? Could the crew sequentially arrive to fight them? Not saying that we'd get these personal 1v1 battles like Sanji, Zoro, etc are getting, but just big exposition panels that show the "desperation" of the fight.
This is also why I like the OP lol, it's just another option to keep the crew busy and deliver some additional exposure to villains that potentially need it.
But I do agree to an extent with you, arc is extremely big and he has rushed some points, though there are a million other things to finish
I'm just questioning if there is an ulterior motive. I.e.
If the BMP are a late game factor while those guys have their major fights (is Oda focusing on Apoo/Drake too)? idk, I just think it's far better to address unanswered things (Smoothie, Snack, Compote, etc) then having the crew just fight nameless fodder for the rest of the arc.
Like rn I'm questioning what Franky or Jinbe are even doing. Could the BMP arrive last minute on the performance floor? Could the crew sequentially arrive to fight them? Not saying that we'd get these personal 1v1 battles like Sanji, Zoro, etc are getting, but just big exposition panels that show the "desperation" of the fight.
This is also why I like the OP lol, it's just another option to keep the crew busy and deliver some additional exposure to villains that potentially need it.
But I do agree to an extent with you, arc is extremely big and he has rushed some points, though there are a million other things to finish
JACK WAS NOT DEFEATED!
Jack. The 1B berry bounty man, one of the calamaties, handpicked by Kaido himself(Kaido wasn't drunk during that).
After King and Queen have shown their special abilities, do you really think that Jack doesn't have one aswell? Nonsense.
The special ability of the mammoth in the ancient times was...
CLONING!
The Jack that Inu defeated was only a clone.
We know that Oda loves to document himself with IRL info, Oda updated Page One Spinosaurus form after a scientific paper
showed an update about the physiology of the Spinosaurus.
So it's only logical that Oda also documented himself with mammoth's information. Scientifics have tried to investigate how to clone mammoths for a long time:
http://geiserglen.com/assets/mammoth2014.pdf
OFC, in One Piece world, cloning will not work in the same way that scientists are trying to investigate IRL. Oda will throw his famous shenanigans.
Oda clearly read one of these studies at some point and gave Jack the ability to clone himself (during the process Jack will look like a gag, just like King and Queen). and this abilty makes a lot of plot holes about Jack solved.
- How a YC3 escaped from three legendary marines?
- Why Oda hasn't shown not a single named attack of Jack?
Jack, a YC3 with only one ship attacked directly four navy ships guarded by Sengoku, Fujitora and Tsuru and managed to sank two of those ships.
Do you really think that a former Fleet Admiral, an Admiral and a legendary Vice-Admiral coudn't capture a YC3?
The news coudn't even confirm if Jack was dead or not. It's impossible that those marines reported an inconclusive report, they would know 100% if someone
escaped or was killed. They were simply tricked by Jack's cloning abilty.
Maybe you are wondering why Jack doesn't use this abilty all the time. The most reasanoble answer it's because when he uses it, he consumes a lot
of energy or maybe he splits his strengh just like that Kage in Naruto,
this would explain why this clone lost to Inu.
This Jack abilty has been foreshadowed by Orochi being the one reacting to Jack defeat. The man who tricked everyone to achieve his goals...
Is now being tricked by Hiyori (Komurasaki), by Denjiro (Kyoshiro) and by Jack.
WHY IS ODA SAVING JACK FOR LATER?
Jack still hasn't shown any named attack because Oda is saving him for later, when the terrifying truth is revealed. That Jack was the Ace card all along.
Just like in Bleach:
Jack with his cloning abily plus awakening (Jack was handpicked by Kaido because he's the only All-Star with awakening)
will be the major threat of the raid.He will only be defeated when Onigashima blows up after everyone has been evacuated.
- Cloning abilty
- Awakening (Ace)
- Named attacks soon
- Jack using water attacks with his trunk
Jack fans will eat good soon!
Jack. The 1B berry bounty man, one of the calamaties, handpicked by Kaido himself(Kaido wasn't drunk during that).
After King and Queen have shown their special abilities, do you really think that Jack doesn't have one aswell? Nonsense.
The special ability of the mammoth in the ancient times was...
CLONING!
The Jack that Inu defeated was only a clone.
We know that Oda loves to document himself with IRL info, Oda updated Page One Spinosaurus form after a scientific paper
showed an update about the physiology of the Spinosaurus.
So it's only logical that Oda also documented himself with mammoth's information. Scientifics have tried to investigate how to clone mammoths for a long time:
http://geiserglen.com/assets/mammoth2014.pdf
OFC, in One Piece world, cloning will not work in the same way that scientists are trying to investigate IRL. Oda will throw his famous shenanigans.
Oda clearly read one of these studies at some point and gave Jack the ability to clone himself (during the process Jack will look like a gag, just like King and Queen). and this abilty makes a lot of plot holes about Jack solved.
- How a YC3 escaped from three legendary marines?
- Why Oda hasn't shown not a single named attack of Jack?
Jack, a YC3 with only one ship attacked directly four navy ships guarded by Sengoku, Fujitora and Tsuru and managed to sank two of those ships.
Do you really think that a former Fleet Admiral, an Admiral and a legendary Vice-Admiral coudn't capture a YC3?
The news coudn't even confirm if Jack was dead or not. It's impossible that those marines reported an inconclusive report, they would know 100% if someone
escaped or was killed. They were simply tricked by Jack's cloning abilty.
Maybe you are wondering why Jack doesn't use this abilty all the time. The most reasanoble answer it's because when he uses it, he consumes a lot
of energy or maybe he splits his strengh just like that Kage in Naruto,
this would explain why this clone lost to Inu.
This Jack abilty has been foreshadowed by Orochi being the one reacting to Jack defeat. The man who tricked everyone to achieve his goals...
Is now being tricked by Hiyori (Komurasaki), by Denjiro (Kyoshiro) and by Jack.
WHY IS ODA SAVING JACK FOR LATER?
Jack still hasn't shown any named attack because Oda is saving him for later, when the terrifying truth is revealed. That Jack was the Ace card all along.
Just like in Bleach:
Jack with his cloning abily plus awakening (Jack was handpicked by Kaido because he's the only All-Star with awakening)
will be the major threat of the raid.He will only be defeated when Onigashima blows up after everyone has been evacuated.
- Cloning abilty
- Awakening (Ace)
- Named attacks soon
- Jack using water attacks with his trunk
Jack fans will eat good soon!
@Paperchampion23
@Tyki_Mikk
@TheAncientCenturion
@Peroroncino
@zzShinichi
@DarkWitch
@RayanOO
@Thururuzao
@Sentinel
@Roo
I'm quoting the ones who I remember that talked about our little boy Jack
@Tyki_Mikk
@TheAncientCenturion
@Peroroncino
@zzShinichi
@DarkWitch
@RayanOO
@Thururuzao
@Sentinel
@Roo
I'm quoting the ones who I remember that talked about our little boy Jack
But I hope something like this would happen. Jack The Dragdown fr
but all jokes aside Jack is out off the picture he said it himself that one more attack an he won't be able to get back up , its so sad he never even use one name attack 
