Kingdom General Tier list

Did you put Renpa and Ouki > Hakuki? Am I reading that right? Lol
Yes. :myman:

It's not like I put them in different tiers. Lol. I think Hakuki might be the best strategist out of the three but Renpa and Ouki are likely better dualists and better morale ampers so I decided to put them slightly ahead.

Also they both have more experience due to not committing self deletion. :beanmean:
Also Ousen is way too high. Lord Sheeb just defeated him. Lol
To be fair, I did initially have him as first in the tier below Riboku but folk were saying he was too low so I bumped him up experimentally to see what it would look like.
Well I have a lot of minor things to say, but why do you have Moubu ranked so low? You think he is currently the weakest Qin 6? lol
Probably. Amongst the current four I haven't changed from this post.
This is how my list ended up @SakazOuki
1) Hakuki.
2) Ousen.
3) Ouki.
4) Yotanwa.
5) Tou.
6) Moubu
7) Shibasaku.
8) Kanki.
9) Kyou.
10) Duke Hyou.
11) Shouheikan.
12) Koshou.
13) Oukotsu.
Though considering how Shiba slapped Ousen head on simply through brute force, maybe I should re-evaluate this. Heck, maybe Ousen is actually the weakest of the four since he doesn't have the brawn and morale amping ability of the other three. Lol.
 
Merry Christmas fellow Kingdom lads! As my gift to you all, I present a martial tier list I’ve been working on for a few days now.

Tiers are ranked from left->right/up->down. So for example, Houken would be the weakest of the U Tier, Kyoukai would be the strongest.



This one was really hard given how many unknowns there are for now but I think I’m mostly happy with it…

It was hard to rank all of the individual matchups. For example, Tou vs Zenou: who wins there? Idfk but I put Tou above for now. I’m not hardcore committed to many of these ranks but as of now this is probably where I would rank these fighters.

What do you all think?
You putting Kyoukai as the strongest of all time has to be your biggest W in all of Kingdom takes Lmao.

More than enough for me to forgive your shit talk about Kyoukai's character.:myman:

I'mma post my tier list sometime later next week. Got too busy to prep for military drill weekend this Saturday and Sunday lol.
 
Going forward i'm putting Riboku top 1 of all time
He's only competition was Hakuki and Gakuki seeing as he was already confirmed to be above guys like Renpa and Ouki but Hakuki despite being better known or feared, never was outright confirmed to be better than Ouki even if we can assume he was. No one gives a fuck about Gakuki either lol. No mention or well known W's for him so far.
 
I've no idea how certain other "Heavenly Kings" characters are supposed to defeat Genpou in a war, given the hype he had of being even capable of leading Zhao's entire military. Lol.
To be fair, if Genpou's vertical compensation chair was 1 foot lower, he would have been skewered by 1000 man commander Shin. He isn't unbeatable. I think Gyou'un's Instinctual nature for example could mess with him.
Kyouen is another one who is just busted, portrayal wise.
@Lee Ba Shou I have been wondering whether I should bump Kyouen up a tier in that list. I immediately shoved him in Base GG and didn't look back but I might be underestimating the man who gave Renpa some trouble. Lol.
 
To be fair, if Genpou's vertical compensation chair was 1 foot lower, he would have been skewered by 1000 man commander Shin. He isn't unbeatable.
Sure, he ain't unbeateable, but still. Lol. I also think it's pretty telling that Hara had him being taken out by one of the new Qin Six and by far and away the worst possible matchup he could have ever encountered at that.
 

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You are putting Gyou'Un in Genpou and Rinko level?

The guys for me is the peak of Right hand man is.
I mean Genpou was stated to be capable of being the SHK of Zhao. That's hype above Great General lol.

Gyou'un and Chougaryuu were also explicitly compared to "Rinko and Kaishibou of Renpa's Kings". Gyou'un and KyouEn are two best in my opinion, but there's no giant gap in overall abilities

I've no idea how certain others "Heavenly Kings" characters (as used in many classifications here) are supposed to defeat Genpou in a war, given the hype he had of being even capable of leading Zhao's entire military. Lol.

Kyouen is another one who is just busted, portrayal wise.
Gyou'un's instincts would fuck him up.

Also he almost lost his life to a 1000 man commander
 

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It's not like I put them in different tiers. Lol. I think Hakuki might be the best strategist out of the three but Renpa and Ouki are likely better dualists and better morale ampers so I decided to put them slightly ahead.
Oh man. I’m not sure lol. Hakuki was the leader of the Qin 6, I would think he belongs above Ouki at least. Renpa is more debatable but I’d put him equal with Ouki before Hakuki given how he and Ouki seemed to have that rival/respected enemy relationship.

To be fair, I did initially have him as first in the tier below Riboku but folk were saying he was too low so I bumped him up experimentally to see what it would look like.
Meh, losing your average Three Great Heaven doesn’t mean Ousen is any weaker than his Q6 peers
:beanmean:

Nah I do think it’s matchup dependent to an extent too. Ousen was destined to lose to Shibashou as that’s just not Ousen’s strength as a commander. Ousen is strong at big strategic campaigns like Gian, not at beating the army right in front of him. I think Ouki would solidly beat Ousen in a straightforward battle despite the two of them being called equally talented.

@Lee Ba Shou I have been wondering whether I should bump Kyouen up a tier in that list. I immediately shoved him in Base GG and didn't look back but I might be underestimating the man who gave Renpa some trouble. Lol.
Nah, I honestly think Kyou En may have fought Renpa when Renpa was less experienced. That’s how it seems to me. And especially if you read up on Renpa historically, I doubt Renpa reached his peak until around Chouhei which I would think he had Kyou En serving him by that time.

Nah, I wouldn’t separate the Heavenly Kings. If I put one of them above the rest I’d put Rinko there as that’s what Mouten did, and Mouten actually read up on Renpa’s full service record.
 
Kyou En isn't even portrayed above the rest of Heavenly kings
Either Renpa was a lot weaker or in number/terrain disadvantage or we are underestimating the heavenly kings as a whole.
Dude had no problem holding his own against Ou Sen while commanding Wei troops.

He faced Ren Pa, Kyou and Haku Ki multiple times in battle and Ou Ki and Ou Kotsu at least once.

No one has a stated record like this. Only Ri Boku compares.
 
I've no idea how certain others "Heavenly Kings" characters (as used in many classifications here) are supposed to defeat Genpou in a war, given the hype he had of being even capable of leading Zhao's entire military. Lol.
I don’t think he’s particularly special among the Renpa subordinates anymore.

He’s what a Heavenly King tier general looks like when putting all of his stat points into a single attribute, while sacrificing everything else.

Chougaryuu may not be as smart, but he makes it up with leadership and tactics, while also being a capable fighter.

To me it would be like saying RSJ > Renpa, which isn’t true.
 
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@Lee Ba Shou I have been wondering whether I should bump Kyouen up a tier in that list. I immediately shoved him in Base GG and didn't look back but I might be underestimating the man who gave Renpa some trouble. Lol.
Interestingly Renpa at one point asks Kyouen about who of the Qin Six he fought and who amongst them did fire him up the most/give him the most trouble (to which Kyouen answered Kyou and Hakuki). Kyouen fought 4 of the Qin Six without Renpa having anything to do with it lol.

I don’t think he’s particularly special among the Renpa subordinates anymore.

He’s what a Heavenly King tier general looks like when putting all of his stat points into a single attribute, while sacrificing everything else.

Rinshoujou may not be as smart, but he makes it up with leadership and tactics, while also being a capable fighter.

To me it would be like saying RSJ > Renpa, which isn’t true.
Renpa himself is a genius. He's isn't RSJ equal brain wise but he still absolutely has a huge brain for war lol. Coupled with everything else he is, then yea Renpa ~ Rinshoujo sounds about right.
 
Interestingly Renpa at one point asks Kyouen about who of the Qin Six he fought and who amongst them did fire him up the most/give him the most trouble (to which Kyouen answered Kyou and Hakuki). Kyouen fought 4 of the Qin Six without Renpa having anything to do with it lol.



Renpa himself is a genius. He's isn't RSJ equal brain wise but he still absolutely has a huge brain for war lol. Coupled with everything else he is, then yea Renpa ~ Rinshoujo sounds about right.
Fuck I actually meant to say Chougaryuu for the 3rd paragraph lol.

I think the same logic applies to the heavenly kings is all I’m saying. CGR has a high tier brain himself while also possessing other factors in warfare that puts him on par with Genpou.
 
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