Anime & Manga King's Bounty Speculation Thread

[Monet]

This was the same calculation I did to get my 75% confidence interval:


There are other pieces of information that might affect our prediction for his bounty though:

zoro was never less than sanji or same bounty , the only rise of sanji bounty was when zoro was absent from wci arc and even the purpose is just the gag ,if oda want sanji's bounty to have a wight other than gag he could have rise it more not just "10mil" .
even considering the logic that members bounty rise cuz of captain achievement(same as dressrosa with curly hats ) , zoro should at least have +50 mil after WCI , but oda didn't or mayb he only didn't show zoro new bounty for the sake of the gag .




-Queen appears to be closer to King
i see a lot say this , but no its not hint for their strength or bounty this only show how queen character is .

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[Patryipe]

Fear like he's not far from Queen unfortunately.

 

[Monet]

Fear like he's not far from Queen unfortunately.

if they have a close bounty then it would better if oda showed their bounty together in 925
oda keeping it till now its clear that at least he has +300 mil than queen .

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

if they have a close bounty then it would better if oda showed their bounty together in 925
oda keeping it till now its clear that at least he has +300 mil than queen .

he keeps things hidden for no reason as well...it isnt like Numbers are more important than Calamities or F6 and yet we dont know what they are and no Bounty revelation for them or F6....not only that here comes Yamato who might just be a brat but everyone's hyping for

 

[Monet]

he keeps things hidden for no reason as well...it isnt like Numbers are more important than Calamities or F6 and yet we dont know what they are and no Bounty revelation for them or F6....not only that here comes Yamato who might just be a brat but everyone's hyping for

that's right , but i think this delay has reason somehow

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

that's right , but i think this delay has reason somehow

the first Big Shock for us all was bounty of Jack which was Very Bad Decision when someone who even beat Flamingo got only 500M..... and then came Katakuri which is now weakest of YC1s and ranging YC1s upto even 2 Billion.... and the most stupidest ones the bounties of Yonko being around 5Billion making them 5 Times YC1...
everyone remembers how Logical it was back then when nobody could give characters more than 1 Billion bounty because that really was how it should've been specially after watching Marineford war and WBP but it was all ruined with these huge differences in bounties now

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

and Shichibukai were being hyped... FOR NO REASON cause now we know that Oda has placed 100s of characters among Yonko crews who has higher bounties or equivalent bounties....
but still he is tryinh to show Shichibukai are relevant like how Moriah went fighting Teach

 

[Cinera]

and Shichibukai were being hyped... FOR NO REASON cause now we know that Oda has placed 100s of characters among Yonko crews who has higher bounties or equivalent bounties....
but still he is tryinh to show Shichibukai are relevant like how Moriah went fighting Teach

The Shichibukai bounties are frozen. Oda is having the marines reevaluate them, so their new updated bounties would be even higher.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

The Shichibukai bounties are frozen. Oda is having the marines reevaluate them, so their new updated bounties would be even higher.

nope frozen bounties is not what I am talking about, I am talking about their actual bounties which right now can be....
Unfrozen Jinbe is 480M
Law was 440M, got 500M for helping Luffy
Moria Defeated Jinbe so has to be lower than Jinbei as he was deemed unworthy by WG too
The Person who defeated Doflamingo got 500M while law was Defeated by Doflamingo, so Flamingo < 500M
Lets not talk about Buggy
Hancock Cant be stronger than Flamingo as she's been portrayed (but people will now say she is just because)
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anyways they were supposed to be a part of 3 Balancing powers.... while now ? now as I said there are 100s of Yonko crewmates who have higher bounties than their unfrozen bounty and that Also by way too big margin specially the Yonko Top Commanders.... this is all because of Oda dropping HUGE differences in bounty out of nowhere which makes Shichibukai look weaklings
I am just hoping Mihawk wont be treated same as others or else ... ridiculuos
and weevil is the only other hope while he wasnt part of original Shichibukai who were called as balancing factot

 

[Cinera]

The Person who defeated Doflamingo got 500M while law was Defeated by Doflamingo, so Flamingo < 500M

Two people defeated Doflamingo and both got 500M, the reward for defeating Doflamingo might be 1B.

Furthermore, you don't always get a higher bounty than the person you defeated. Arabasta Zoro got 60M for defeating Daz Bones (worth 75M) and the 100 Whiskey Peak Bounty Hunters.

Hancock Cant be stronger than Flamingo as she's been portrayed

Yup, her bounty would give us a better handle on what Doffy's hypothetical unfrozen bounty would be (if Oda doesn't reveal it in story).

now as I said there are 100s of Yonko crewmates who have higher bounties than their unfrozen bounty and

See above.


As for your broader point, the Shichibukai aren't close in strength, so as their combat ability varies wildly (top tier to mid tier) so also do their bounties.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Two people defeated Doflamingo and both got 500M, the reward for defeating Doflamingo might be 1B.

Furthermore, you don't always get a higher bounty than the person you defeated. Arabasta Zoro got 60M for defeating Daz Bones (worth 75M) and the 100 Whiskey Peak Bounty Hunters.



Yup, her bounty would give us a better handle on what Doffy's hypothetical unfrozen bounty would be (if Oda doesn't reveal it in story).



See above.


As for your broader point, the Shichibukai aren't close in strength, so as their combat ability varies wildly (top tier to mid tier) so also do their bounties.

Alabasta's all activities were hidden from Public so of course they would not increase their bounties too much as Luffy also got only 100M for Crocodile which is why I didnt bring Corocodile's defeat.... but Doflamingo's defeat was publicly known by everyone and they even witnessed Luffy defeating him.... and no Doflamingo was considered much weaker guy by everyone than a 1B guy, first being Marine and that bounty 2nd Kaido calling him so weak and lastly clear proof that Big Mom herself saying Luffy the guy who beat Doflamingo then I will send Cracker to beat him, clearly stating Cracker>Luffy>Flamingo... While cracker has 860M
Let's Not include Mihawk and all the original shichibukai are at best below Mid Tier (if Yonko Top Commanders are Mid Tier) with worth bounty of around 500M as seen with Jinbei Himself.... and there are lots of Characters like that in Yonko crews (remember Doflamingo was considered Strongest after Mihawk by most of us, some even called him stronger than Mihawk)...
the way Shichibukai were portrayed at beginning we thought they should be just below Admirals and Top Commander level or higher while now they are even below top Veterans (Like Peros, Snack, F6, Numbers too very likely and etc )

 

[Cinera]

Alabasta's all activities were hidden from Public so of course they would not increase their bounties too much as Luffy also got only 100M for Crocodile which is why I didnt bring Corocodile's defeat....

So what did the SHs get their bounty for then? 100 million was the right figure for the guy who defeated Crocodile (worth 60M, but had it been unfrozen 160M). 60 M was the right figure for the guy who defeated Daz Bones (worth 75M and a frozen bounty).

no Doflamingo was considered much weaker guy by everyone than a 1B guy, first being Marine and that bounty 2nd Kaido calling him so weak and lastly clear proof that Big Mom herself saying Luffy the guy who beat Doflamingo then I will send Cracker to beat him, clearly stating Cracker>Luffy>Flamingo... While cracker has 860M

I (and many others) do not agree with this, so nah.

Let's Not include Mihawk and all the original shichibukai are at best below Mid Tier (if Yonko Top Commanders are Mid Tier)

Yonkou top commanders are high tiers. Mid tiers are the likes of Big Mom's veterans and Doffy's executives.

(remember Doflamingo was considered Strongest after Mihawk by most of us, some even called him stronger than Mihawk)...

Again, I think you are misunderstanding/underestimating Doffy's bounty. Hancock's bounty would probably be in YC territory, and likely Doffy's if we see it revealed.

 

[Dark Hound]

1.66 B

 

[KiriNigiri]

3 introduction panels, no bounty. I might have to re-evaluate King's bounty. On the otherhand, keeping it hidden is probably to prevent readers from learning of something.

Note Queen's bounty.

It's exactly 1 billion over Zoro's. Let's say King's bounty were 1.33b. He'd have exactly 1 billion over Sanji's.

And before someone says it; this doesn't mean Zoro vs Queen and Sanji vs King. That's not what I'm getting at. But, such a reveal distractingly ties King and Queen to Zoro and Sanji.

That's one way of looking at it. Another would be to consider when Jack and Queen's bounties were revealed. Jack's was way back on Zou where he played the role of antagonist. Queen's was revealed when he was set up as the antagonist for the Udon subplot.

Perhaps King's bounty being held off is because his big part has yet to happen. After all, most of the focus is going to Kaido's son and the F6 at the moment.

If it's the latter case, then King's bounty amount is less related to Queen's, and thus could be much higher.

 

[Nivea]

3 introduction panels, no bounty. I might have to re-evaluate King's bounty. On the otherhand, keeping it hidden is probably to prevent readers from learning of something.

Note Queen's bounty.

It's exactly 1 billion over Zoro's. Let's say King's bounty were 1.33b. He'd have exactly 1 billion over Sanji's.

And before someone says it; this doesn't mean Zoro vs Queen and Sanji vs King. That's not what I'm getting at. But, such a reveal distractingly ties King and Queen to Zoro and Sanji.

That's one way of looking at it. Another would be to consider when Jack and Queen's bounties were revealed. Jack's was way back on Zou where he played the role of antagonist. Queen's was revealed when he was set up as the antagonist for the Udon subplot.

Perhaps King's bounty being held off is because his big part has yet to happen. After all, most of the focus is going to Kaido's son and the F6 at the moment.

If it's the latter case, then King's bounty amount is less related to Queen's, and thus could be much higher.

If his bounty was comparable to queens oda would have shown it by now. Him being the last calamity to have a bounty revealed and the only one to not be treated as a hype tool his bounty will be well above queens . If you’re hoping for something else prepare to be disappointed.

 

[HA001]

Was gonna say if king and queens bounties were gonna be near enough the same he should have just shown them when he introduced them together. Weve seen all 3 zoan forms but only queen and jacks bounty.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Just cause They said RHP Jace high bounties doesnt mean they have superior bounty than Luffy

After Kata, Luffy bounty and strength is only below Yonko/Dragon/Kuzan! He surpassed all Commanders when he unlocked FS and when he received 5th emperor candidacy . No warlord no commander has superior bounty than luffy.

Benn 1.4 or maybe 1.5+ if Oda wanna hype him to be near Admirals
King 1.33
Marco 1.2 or 1 B
Roo 1.1
Yassop 930+
Jozu 900+
Vista 800 or 700+

 

[Cinera]

Benn 1.4 or maybe 1.5+ if Oda wanna hype him to be near Admirals
King 1.33

As long as you're ready to :holdthisl: when you're proven wrong.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

As long as you're ready to :holdthisl: when you're proven wrong.

Sure
King might even have lesser bounty than Queen. who knows

Everything pointing at King havinh slight higher bounty
Both have been with Kaido for decades
Both are portrayed to have equal authority and power
Both are dangerous/cruel
Queen is even more deadly since he makes bio weapons .

If Queen and king had different relationship, I was gonna say King bunty is 80+ M higher or even 150M+

 

[Cinera]

Sure
King might even have lesser bounty than Queen. who knows

Everything pointing at King havinh slight higher bounty
Both have been with Kaido for decades
Both are portrayed to have equal authority and power
Both are dangerous/cruel
Queen is even more deadly since he makes bio weapons .

If Queen and king had different relationship, I was gonna say King bunty is 80+ M higher or even 150M+

Let's see which of us is closer to the mark. :cheers: