Chapter Discussion Kizaru was the appetizer for Luffy. Lets be real. The Saturn fight is the main event.

[Durableguy]

Something big is going to happen, beating Kizaru ain't it.

Oh right. These guys keep pretending a big incident isn't going to happen.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kumas going to break this man first. No one harms his daughter!

 

[Monkey D Theories]

And how will they do that when they are surrounded by 50 pacifistas and 30k marines?

No no Saturn is going down lol

How will they run away? Like they always do: plot

 

[Durableguy]

How will they run away? Like they always do: plot

Wait a minute. You ignored the elephant in the room. What's the shocking incident?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Wait a minute. You ignored the elephant in the room. What's the shocking incident?

In WCI, Luffy defeated BM’s commanders, wrecked havoc in her territory, and survived. This was said to be a monumental event as it was the first time in decades when BM has been embarrassed in such a way.

Same thing with Egghead. It will be the first time in centuries that a gorosei has been embarrassed. Yet Saturn shouldn’t be 1v1ed. Just like Jack in Zou or BM in WCI.

 

[Durableguy]

In WCI, Luffy defeated BM’s commanders, wrecked havoc in her territory, and survived. This was said to be a monumental event as it was the first time in decades when BM has been embarrassed in such a way.

Same thing with Egghead. It will be the first time in centuries that a gorosei has been embarrassed. Yet Saturn shouldn’t be 1v1ed. Just like Jack in Zou or BM in WCI.

Yeah sure bro. It's pretty clear Saturn is going down here by Luffy.

That's precisely why Oda built him up to be so hateable.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

the goal of the arc has already been stated: escape to elbaf.

Luffy’s fight has already been set up: Kizaru

Saturn exists so that there can still be a force of tension that causes the SHs to go to elbaf. If the SHs don’t need to flee, there’s tbh no reason to go to elbaf as elbaf and egghead are basically in parallel locations in the NW(Luffy wouldn’t be progressing in the grand line by going to elbaf)

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Yeah sure bro. It's pretty clear Saturn is going down here by Luffy.

That's precisely why Oda built him up to be so hateable.

Jack in Zou
Big Mom in WCI

Oda has done this before…

 

[Durableguy]

the goal of the arc has already been stated: escape to elbaf.

Luffy’s fight has already been set up: Kizaru

Saturn exists so that there can still be a force of tension that causes the SHs to go to elbaf. If the SHs don’t need to flee, there’s tbh no reason to go to elbaf as elbaf and egghead are basically in parallel locations in the NW(Luffy wouldn’t be progressing in the grand line by going to elbaf)

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Jack in Zou
Big Mom in WCI

Oda has done this before…

Huh. Jack did lose though. And Big Mom while crazy wasn't built up to be as hatable.

No. Saturn is going down lol.

 

[Sentinel]

Kumas going to break this man first. No one harms his daughter!

If one Gorosei gets beaten by a halfdead, cyborg Warlord, you can toss all other remaining 4 Gorosei into the trash bin.
Do you really think Oda would treat the most powerful rulers, excluding Imu, in the world like that?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If one Gorosei gets beaten by a halfdead, cyborg Warlord, you can toss all other remaining 4 Gorosei into the trash bin.
Do you really think Oda would treat the most powerful rulers, excluding Imu, in the world like that?

You think odas going to let Kuma die without getting some revenge against the man who killed his wife?

Kuma can expel all the pain and suffering from his body for a short amount of time after all

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Huh. Jack did lose though. And Big Mom while crazy wasn't built up to be as hatable.

No. Saturn is going down lol.

Jack “lost” in that he failed to kill Zunisha

but he wasn’t 1v1ed

and the dude was literally shown to be conscious at the end of the arc.

 

[Paperchampion23]

You think odas going to let Kuma die without getting some revenge against the man who killed his wife?

Kuma can expel all the pain and suffering from his body for a short amount of time after all

I think regardless of what Kuma does, Saturn has been shown he can heal wounds, so really any outcome doesnt matter necessarily, unless Oda somhow makes Kuma fully fight and defeat Saturn, which is extremely unlikely

 

[Durableguy]

If one Gorosei gets beaten by a halfdead, cyborg Warlord, you can toss all other remaining 4 Gorosei into the trash bin.
Do you really think Oda would treat the most powerful rulers, excluding Imu, in the world like that?

Kuma will get a good punch in. But Luffy will beat him. It's no different than Hody/Shirahoshi. Law/Doflamingo. Momo/Kaido.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Saturn will probably get the Jack treatment

He’ll get smacked around. First by Kuma, then by the giant robot, then probably by the mother flame reactor. He’ll “lose” in trying to kill vegapunk. But he won’t be defeated till EoS

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I think regardless of what Kuma does, Saturn has been shown he can heal wounds, so really any outcome doesnt matter necessarily, unless Oda somhow makes Kuma fully fight and defeat Saturn, which is extremely unlikely

You think Saturn would be able to heal from getting his head blown up? That self destruct button and Kuma may lead to kuma ending this fight like a bomb collar CDs put on their slaves

 

[Durableguy]

Saturn will probably get the Jack treatment

He’ll get smacked around. First by Kuma, then by the giant robot, then probably by the mother flame reactor. He’ll “lose” in trying to kill vegapunk. But he won’t be defeated till EoS

You mean by Luffy.

 

[Paperchampion23]

You think Saturn would be able to heal from getting his head blown up? That self destruct button and Kuma may lead to kuma ending this fight like a bomb collar CDs put on their slaves

Considering his demonic nature and healing a sword wound to the neck/chest, yes I wouldn't put it behind Oda to have Saturn be able to recover from some monstrous shit like his face being blown off

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Considering his demonic nature and healing a sword wound to the neck/chest, yes I wouldn't put it behind Oda to have Saturn be able to recover from some monstrous shit like his dace being blown off

Honestly if Saturn can even heal from that, that is definitely some scary shit. Not sure how he’d even be beatable in the future, maybe drowning?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

You mean by Luffy.

This is an escape arc. The point of the arc is escape. If the main villain is defeated by Luffy it defeats the point of the arc.

 

[Durableguy]

This is an escape arc. The point of the arc is escape. If the main villain is defeated by Luffy it defeats the point of the arc.

Doesn't seem like that way to me anymore. The Bonney/Kuma/Saturn storyline is going to be finished here.