Chapter Discussion Kizaru was the appetizer for Luffy. Lets be real. The Saturn fight is the main event.
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Which attack of Kizaru’s hit Luffy head on in G5 though? Wasn’t Luffy still dodging his attacks, even the distraction one with the clones? Seems like Luffy still couldn’t afford to be taking even casual hits.
Besides that…isn’t it worse for Luffy to be that gassed out without taking much damage? He even needs food to get up while Kizaru is doing that on his own.
Other top tiers like Kaido & Shanks won’t have the luxury of Kizaru playing around or just expecting them to gas out without using any of his higher moves.
Besides that…isn’t it worse for Luffy to be that gassed out without taking much damage? He even needs food to get up while Kizaru is doing that on his own.
Other top tiers like Kaido & Shanks won’t have the luxury of Kizaru playing around or just expecting them to gas out without using any of his higher moves.
One thing is clear: Saturn is going down here. I agree that its very likely that Luffy will be the one to beat Saturn. It makes perfect sense narratively. Bonney has to see Nika because her faith is wavering. Kuma, a lifelong fan of Nika, needs to see Nika's greatness before dying.
The question is, will this be another Luffy-vs-Kizaru type of fight or a quick defeat for Saturn? My money is on the latter. In that case, Kizaru remains the main dish for this arc.
The question is, will this be another Luffy-vs-Kizaru type of fight or a quick defeat for Saturn? My money is on the latter. In that case, Kizaru remains the main dish for this arc.
One possibility Im seeing is that Luffy ends up fighting both Kizaru and Saturn at the same time. A lot of us are left with this question of what Kizaru will do or who Luffy will fight when it may just be as simple as he ends up fighting both. In a way, this was a similar case when he technically fought Hody and Decken at the same time.
Its even gotten me thinking about the Robot. It seemingly activates only when it hears Nika's heartbeat right? If its not soley used as an escape measure, it must be used to help Luffy deal with his enemies no?
In that way, I can definitely see Oda setting up a 2v2 between Kizaru/Saturn and Luffy/Robot. And sure, it might be the "Luffy show", but thats always Oda's MO with every arc anyway.
Idk, this is the best way I can reconcile the sideline of an Admiral with a Gorosei while also escalating the scale of danger from Kaido.
After this, the only real avenue I see is Akainu, Blackbeard and Shanks being involved in an arc or arcs together anyway to up the scale of conflict.
Its even gotten me thinking about the Robot. It seemingly activates only when it hears Nika's heartbeat right? If its not soley used as an escape measure, it must be used to help Luffy deal with his enemies no?
In that way, I can definitely see Oda setting up a 2v2 between Kizaru/Saturn and Luffy/Robot. And sure, it might be the "Luffy show", but thats always Oda's MO with every arc anyway.
Idk, this is the best way I can reconcile the sideline of an Admiral with a Gorosei while also escalating the scale of danger from Kaido.
After this, the only real avenue I see is Akainu, Blackbeard and Shanks being involved in an arc or arcs together anyway to up the scale of conflict.
Eating an attack isn’t the same as getting hit by it. Kaido could eat and even breathe fire, but getting hit by boro breath still had him screaming.
Kaido in turn was getting hit by base Luffy & G4, both of which couldn’t even touch Kizaru. And that’s besides the point of Kizaru not even being focused on G5 or doing anything beyond casual attacks.
I’m sure I don’t have to mention that Kizaru wasn’t trying to kill Sentomaru either. Whereas, Kaido with a direct 2-handed strike to Kinemon didn’t even knock him out at all…even when asking him to die after stabbing him afterwards.
Kaido in turn was getting hit by base Luffy & G4, both of which couldn’t even touch Kizaru. And that’s besides the point of Kizaru not even being focused on G5 or doing anything beyond casual attacks.
I’m sure I don’t have to mention that Kizaru wasn’t trying to kill Sentomaru either. Whereas, Kaido with a direct 2-handed strike to Kinemon didn’t even knock him out at all…even when asking him to die after stabbing him afterwards.
Kaido's endurance in drunken mode is much higher. Case and point he tanked adv coc KKG but was getting hurt by base luffy's attacks in 1010.
Kizaru has better movement speed sure. But that is all. And Kaido was fighting against adv coc snakeman. Kizaru had to block snakeman's attack initially and only then used his speed. I doubt Kizaru could have blocked snakeman with adv coc.
Kizaru did used named attack in yasakani no magata and 3 attacks. Kaido's nameless attack in base did put kinnemon down.
Kizaru has better movement speed sure. But that is all. And Kaido was fighting against adv coc snakeman. Kizaru had to block snakeman's attack initially and only then used his speed. I doubt Kizaru could have blocked snakeman with adv coc.
Kizaru did used named attack in yasakani no magata and 3 attacks. Kaido's nameless attack in base did put kinnemon down.
Luffy is in that condition from fighting Kizarup. He has to use G5 because G4 wasn't enough.
Remember, Luffy is not Kizaru's target. Saturn stated Kizaru is moving slower than normal and he doesn't want to kill Dr. Vegapunk. All that implies Kizaru is holding back.
Luffy doesn't need to use G5 to shit, but he did need it against Kizaru.
Remember, Luffy is not Kizaru's target. Saturn stated Kizaru is moving slower than normal and he doesn't want to kill Dr. Vegapunk. All that implies Kizaru is holding back.
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Luffy doesn't need to use G5 to shit, but he did need it against Kizaru.
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