Current Events Kuzan Is A Contender For One Piece - Why Oda Doesn’t Care About Swordsmen

Absolute headcanon, Kaidou was not only trying. He was losing his mind with rage.

But that's besides my point, a not trying Kuzan looked about on par with Garp while a not trying Kaidou looked about on par with Yamato. So either way, it checks out.
When Aokiji wasn't trying, Garp was washing him, telling Aokiji to not hesitate. The moment Aokiji made up his mind defending the island and Blackbeard's interests, he got serious. It's a misconception that just spamming his DF will do good. We had both Aokiji and Kizaru when going up against the old legends, tuning down on their DF and using them in accordance with another fighting style (brawling with ice glows, swordsmanship with a light blade). They spam their DFs predimonantly against fodders.

At the same time, why underestimating Yamato? An Oni with a mythical Zoan and ACoC. And even then, Kaido was toying with her. Yamato couldn't do much until the highlight double spread of them exchanging their Thunder Bagua, which gave Kaido a little head bleeding before Kaido was beating her into a pulp, with Yamato later on collapsing as the damage of Kaido's Thunder Bagua traced back.
 
Kaido started trying when he went drunk mode against luffy buddy

He was trying, in fact he used adv CoC against his own child...
Yes it was not drunken mode, but it is still hybrid Kaido, same mode which Kid and co hyped a lot...


In fact both Yamato and Kaido stated that he didn´t hold back for once...


And Yamato has not the same lvl of AP and adv CoC as Garp has, dude is legit spamming town size shockwave alone by his adv CoC....
 
Doesn't even matter, the fact that he has to do all that for Yamato speaks volumes on what Garp would make him look like if he was holding back.

For reference Kizaru had Rayleigh pressed and when we see these guys go all out this is gonna look silly, cause Yamato gets dogged by Rayleigh.
Kizaru didnt had rayleigh pressed ,
Kizaru s the one who vent his rage bcs he couldnt get past an 80 years old man who didnt used a sword in decades
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
When Aokiji wasn't trying, Garp was washing him, telling Aokiji to not hesitate. The moment Aokiji made up his mind defending the island and Blackbeard's interests, he got serious. It's a misconception that just spamming his DF will do good. We had both Aokiji and Kizaru when going up against the old legends, tuning down on their DF and using them in accordance with another fighting style (brawling with ice glows, swordsmanship with a light blade).

At the same time, why underestimating Yamato? An Oni with a mythical Zoan and ACoC. And even then, Kaido was toying with her. Yamato couldn't do much until the highlight double spread of them exchanging their Thunder Bagua, which gave Kaido a little head bleeding before Kaido was beating her into a pulp, with Yamato later on collapsing as the damage of Kaido's Thunder Bagua traced back.
If Aokiji has awakening none of this matters. It's gonna look cute.

Old Garp is stronger than Yamato by a significant amount. If Kaidou couldn't even deal with her in that given time, expecting Kuzan to look decisively above Garp when he is not going all out is dumb.

Only if you are assuming Kuzan has shown us him going all out, does your point hold. If you don't believe so, then there's no reason for Old Garp to be portrayed weaker.
 
No. You can't be real. The guy with the magma fruit can put holes in people due to the heat? Ain't no way
Admiral fans are so dumb :kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:
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He was trying, in fact he used adv CoC against his own child...
Yes it was not drunken mode, but it is still hybrid Kaido, same mode which Kid and co hyped a lot...


In fact both Yamato and Kaido stated that he didn´t hold back for once...


And Yamato has not the same lvl of AP and adv CoC as Garp has, dude is legit spamming town size shockwave alone by his adv CoC....
Went like 20% percent on her
Kaido when he s trying:
Drunk mode
Moves beyond base thunder bagua
Future sight
Magma flames that makes akainu look like a fodder
 
Admiral fans are so dumb :kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:
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Went like 20% percent on her
Kaido when he s trying:
Drunk mode
Moves beyond base thunder bagua
Future sight
Magma flames that makes akainu look like a fodder
And for some reason it's always about Akainu
Like no fucking shit his magma is lethal and he can put a hole in someone if they don't defend or have very high resistance to heat
That is the whole point.
But at the same time that shit clearly wouldn't happen to some people, for example Kuzan doesn't have a huge hole in his stomach. He got his leg taken, but that's not as bad.
 
And for some reason it's always about Akainu
Like no fucking shit his magma is lethal and he can put a hole in someone if they don't defend or have very high resistance to heat
That is the whole point.
But at the same time that shit clearly wouldn't happen to some people, for example Kuzan doesn't have a huge hole in his stomach. He got his leg taken, but that's not as bad.
Shanks basic coa is enough for that magma bum
 
If Aokiji has awakening none of this matters. It's gonna look cute.
Tbh, so far awakening wasn't shown to be a vast difference most of the times. G4 Luffy was dominating base Doflamingo, while Doflamingo's awakening made Luffy struggle for like 20 minutes before Luffy intercepted him and defeated him in round 2. Against Katakuri, Katakuri tuned himself down to brawling in addition to power mochi, which served as an extension of his brawling, we didn't see extensive usage of environmental control whatsoever.

There won't be a day and night difference between what Aokiji has shown and awakening. Aokiji already showed the ability to instantly freeze large areas and bodies. Oda most likely won't do some wild shit with awakening.
 
And for some reason it's always about Akainu
Like no fucking shit his magma is lethal and he can put a hole in someone if they don't defend or have very high resistance to heat
That is the whole point.
But at the same time that shit clearly wouldn't happen to some people, for example Kuzan doesn't have a huge hole in his stomach. He got his leg taken, but that's not as bad.
Akainu was going easy on his friend
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Tbh, so far awakening wasn't shown to be a vast difference most of the times. G4 Luffy was dominating base Doflamingo, while Doflamingo's awakening made Luffy struggle for like 20 minutes before Luffy intercepted him and defeated him in round 2. Against Katakuri, Katakuri tuned himself down to brawling in addition to power mochi, which served as an extension of his brawling, we didn't see extensive usage of environmental control whatsoever.

There won't be a day and night difference between what Aokiji has shown and awakening. Aokiji already showed the ability to instantly freeze large areas and bodies. Oda most likely won't do some wild shit with awakening.
Whatever the case may be, using his full arsenal should make life a lot easier for him.

Also everyone you mentioned has gained a significant boost in overall prowess with awakening. Katakuri wouldn't be able to bully Boundman without it, Doffy wouldn't be able to survive Boundman without it, lets not even get into Luffy, Law, Kidd, Lucci.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Old Garp is much stronger than Yamato, and she was able to completely hold off a Hybrid Kaidou by herself and still had a lot left in the tank before Luffy intervened. Kaidou was nowhere near putting her down.
Yamato was not at all portrayed as an equal to Hybrid Kaidou, that's just Kaidou downplay.
Her attacks did nothing everytime she attacked Kaidou & he in turn responded with the same attack from his end, and looked superior.
A direct TB from Yamato got a few drops of blood atmost while Kaidou's TB which even got defended still left significant damage on Yamato that she talked about.

The exchange ended with him thrashing Yamato as if he was disciplining her, all she did was stall while Oda finished up the Tobi Roppo fights, set up Zoro vs King & Sanji vs Queen and had Luffy come back up after Kaidou threw him into the sea.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Yamato was not at all portrayed as an equal to Hybrid Kaidou, that's just Kaidou downplay.
Her attacks did nothing everytime she attacked Kaidou & he in turn responded with the same attack from his end, and looked superior.
A direct TB from Yamato got a few drops of blood atmost while Kaidou's TB which even got defended still left significant damage on Yamato that she talked about.

The exchange ended with him thrashing Yamato as if he was disciplining her, all she did was stall while Oda finished up the Tobi Roppo fights, set up Zoro vs King & Sanji vs Queen and had Luffy come back up after Kaidou threw him into the sea.
She looked super competitive with him. Equal is a hyperbole. And it's a fact she walked out of that fight with plenty left in the tank, she was nowhere near downed.
 
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