Chapter Discussion Luffy needs a prosthetic wing because one of them is broken.

[HellBlazer04]

Dude, how can you seriously believe this?

Old Rayleigh (Roger's firstmate) said "Hi" and a Yonko like Teach backed off. Zoro (Luffy's firstmate) didn't even have half that clout against a rando like Lucci or Kaku (despite the fact his captain is probably a month away from becoming PK).

Literally Roger, Shanks, and Oden are in Kaido's Top 5. In whose top 5 Luffy, Zoro, and Jinbei are gonna be? The Cook's? Usopp's?

There is no basis to assume the SHs will surpass Jolly Roger Pirates. And although you didn't say anything about Rocks Pirates, the SHs certainly won't surpass them, too.

In any case, the SHs don't need to surpass JRPs or Rocks to become a Pirate King crew. They just have to find the One Piece, that's all.

@HellBlazer04

SHC surpassing Rocks crew is literally out of question. They had too many heavy hitters.

Now them surpassing Roger pirates, that could be possible. I put that possibility at 10% and that is only due to the fact that we know Luffy and Zoro are gonna surpass Roger and Ray. The rest have no chance

 

[JDragon20]

Lmao y'all going in Sanji today but Oda using IJ HM like that is fucked 💀

I hope the fucking his VA gave Odas wife was worth it

 

[HA001]

Dude, how can you seriously believe this?

Old Rayleigh (Roger's firstmate) said "Hi" and a Yonko like Teach backed off. Zoro (Luffy's firstmate) didn't even have half that clout against a rando like Lucci or Kaku (despite the fact his captain is probably a month away from becoming PK).

Literally Roger, Shanks, and Oden are in Kaido's Top 5. In whose top 5 Luffy, Zoro, and Jinbei are gonna be? The Cook's? Usopp's?

There is no basis to assume the SHs will surpass Jolly Roger Pirates. And although you didn't say anything about Rocks Pirates, the SHs certainly won't surpass them, too.

In any case, the SHs don't need to surpass JRPs or Rocks to become a Pirate King crew. They just have to find the One Piece, that's all.

@HellBlazer04

How is that a point ?
Lucci gave luffy less respect than he did zoro

 

[Garp the Fist]

If zoro used koh 9 dragons asura on luffy and luffy just said ow I'd drop the manga

You lot have no shame

Pre 1119- “IJ is a top tier, dura ignoring power up, blue flames are one of the most hyped attacks in the verse that even Akainu can’t do.”

Post 1119- “No, of course it’s not a big deal that IJ strongest attack, in a combo, only gave Luffy an ouchie. And we never said that shit above, we knew that Luffy could basically no-sell it.”

Egghead has had a lot of humiliations for a lot of characters, this is up there. (Although Kid’s is the undoubted peak that may not be topped in the entire manga).

It was entirely open to Oda not to have Sanji use his strongest attack here, in his strongest mode, for the very first time. If it had even been regular Hell Memories no one would care. Ffs, Franky just used an upgraded version of his most basic punching attack, and everyone is just hyped cause that might mean he has CoA.

Like you said, I’d be absolutely fuming if the first time a KoH Ashura was used, it was used for something like this. Even go back and compare it to how long we were waiting to see Ashura after the time skip, Oda made sure it came at a huge moment for Zoro.

 

[Crow]

Zoro alone is fully sufficient as luffy's wing. Bro flies like a Hawk (wink wink) thanks to him since the very beginning of OP

 

[Rivaille]

Tbf Sanji not being able to badly hurt Luffy is not a bad feat. I mean, Sanji is Queen level and do you think that Queen can badly hurt Kaido with Ulti and Sasaki’s help?
Sanji’s performance is as expected.

Ifrit Jambe not being the hottest flame in the game is not disproved because we already knew this. Sanji never melt anything with his fire and Oda already says and shown that Magma > flame.

Sanji a YC2 level character and have the according feats.

 

[The White Crane]

How is that a point ?
Lucci gave luffy less respect than he did zoro

Dude, I know. I just wanted to troll Yasheen. It was a joke. The fact that VP warned his spares about Zoro alone means Zoro's reputation is real.

 

[langitbarat]

Tbf Sanji not being able to badly hurt Luffy is not a bad feat. I mean, Sanji is Queen level and do you think that Queen can badly hurt Kaido with Ulti and Sasaki’s help?
Sanji’s performance is as expected.

Ifrit Jambe not being the hottest flame in the game is not disproved because we already knew this. Sanji never melt anything with his fire and Oda already says and shown that Magma > flame.

Sanji a YC2 level character and have the according feats.

No need to think much. People just want to trash Sanji. It's 2024, you should realize it by now, how OP fandom looks like.

 

[The White Crane]

SHC surpassing Rocks crew is literally out of question. They had too many heavy hitters.

Now them surpassing Roger pirates, that could be possible. I put that possibility at 10% and that is only due to the fact that we know Luffy and Zoro are gonna surpass Roger and Ray. The rest have no chance

Fair enough. But, if we count Bullet in, the possible becomes zero lol.

 

[grey matter]

Tbf Sanji not being able to badly hurt Luffy is not a bad feat. I mean, Sanji is Queen level and do you think that Queen can badly hurt Kaido with Ulti and Sasaki’s help?
Sanji’s performance is as expected.

Ifrit Jambe not being the hottest flame in the game is not disproved because we already knew this. Sanji never melt anything with his fire and Oda already says and shown that Magma > flame.

Sanji a YC2 level character and have the according feats.

Bit of a stretch don't you think?
Sanji is stronger than all non RHM standard Yonko commanders so far, and he's arguably as strong/stronger than Katakuri as well

He belongs in the high commander level, just at the lower end, along with characters like Katakuri, Lucci.
Where his fans stretch is when arguing he's on or above the level of characters like King and Marci

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

He's just acting like an 11 year old lmao
Maybe we should stop paying so much attention to a needy child whose sole intention is to bully a fictional character using no rationality

^^^ This mf talking big while he just said IJ L memories is stronger than Ragnaraku which made Luffy going out of his Gear 5th lol .

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

he's arguably as strong/stronger than Katakuri as well

not enough to be put there , blud needs to work his ass to have himself above Katakuri level .

Also i'm not even sure if this mf can beat Post TS Gear 4th Luffy .

 

[gz89]

B-but power of love

 

[MonsterKaido]

Sanji is below King/Marco no doubt.

At best he can defeat Kata due to speed and flames but it's debatable. I still will say Kata wins for now.

 

[Rivaille]

Bit of a stretch don't you think?
Sanji is stronger than all non RHM standard Yonko commanders so far, and he's arguably as strong/stronger than Katakuri as well

He belongs in the high commander level, just at the lower end, along with characters like Katakuri, Lucci.
Where his fans stretch is when arguing he's on or above the level of characters like King and Marci

I disagree with the idea that Sanji is stronger than people like Katakuri but this thread is not the place to discuss that.

 

[Red Night]

Yeah Luffy needs a prostatic wing

 

[Peroroncino]

Pre 1119- “IJ is a top tier, dura ignoring power up, blue flames are one of the most hyped attacks in the verse that even Akainu can’t do.”

Post 1119- “No, of course it’s not a big deal that IJ strongest attack, in a combo, only gave Luffy an ouchie. And we never said that shit above, we knew that Luffy could basically no-sell it.”

biggest 180 in manga history fr

 

[Oliver]

Didn't Lanji hurt his foot kicking Luffy in WCI? At least that didn't happen this time, it shows he's gotten a little bit stronger.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Thats how it is for every powerscaling character

No. Not Zoro. Or Mihawk

 

[Finalbeta]

Luffy managed to fend off Sengoku's attack Pre TS, those Nika baloons work so well in One Piece