Future Events Luffy vs Saturn or Luffy vs Kizaru Round 2 which do you think is most likely to happen at this point?
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It’s not just about strength, you have to think about how Oda wants readers to be excited for the EOS war.
If we accept the premise that Oda wants the entire OP world to come together to fight against the inner World Government, then the Government not being at its full strength would just be anti climactic. Oda summoned the entire damn Navy and all the Warlords against Whitebeard, first and foremost, because it was fucking awesome to read. It’s no surprise that Marineford sold as well as it did, it felt like Oda was pulling every character he had ever drawn together for one giant war. The EOS OP war will be that on steroids.
Plus I think the people who want to see Kizaru defeated don’t even know what they’re asking for. Kizaru isn’t evil, he doesn’t even really want to oppose us on Egghead but people want to see him permanently removed from the story…why? People want Luffy to break every bone in his body…why? What has Kizaru done that would warrant Luffy going so aggressively hard on him lmfao? Oda didn’t even remove Crocodile or Doflamingo from the story fully and those guys were 100x more evil than Kizaru lol.
People want to see Luffy beat Kizaru because it fulfills their power level headcanon, these people are not reading the manga. Saturn falling would be more realistic but again Oda won’t nerf the WG like that just before the final world war.
If we accept the premise that Oda wants the entire OP world to come together to fight against the inner World Government, then the Government not being at its full strength would just be anti climactic. Oda summoned the entire damn Navy and all the Warlords against Whitebeard, first and foremost, because it was fucking awesome to read. It’s no surprise that Marineford sold as well as it did, it felt like Oda was pulling every character he had ever drawn together for one giant war. The EOS OP war will be that on steroids.
Plus I think the people who want to see Kizaru defeated don’t even know what they’re asking for. Kizaru isn’t evil, he doesn’t even really want to oppose us on Egghead but people want to see him permanently removed from the story…why? People want Luffy to break every bone in his body…why? What has Kizaru done that would warrant Luffy going so aggressively hard on him lmfao? Oda didn’t even remove Crocodile or Doflamingo from the story fully and those guys were 100x more evil than Kizaru lol.
People want to see Luffy beat Kizaru because it fulfills their power level headcanon, these people are not reading the manga. Saturn falling would be more realistic but again Oda won’t nerf the WG like that just before the final world war.
Kizaru versus Luffy, Luffy hasn't paid any attention to Saturn and his personal feud is with the admiral.
Saturn versus Bonney and the Pacifista. That will be the true peak of stupidity, as Saturn will be ironically devoured by his children instead of the other way around. His own science is defeating Saturn.
Saturn versus Bonney and the Pacifista. That will be the true peak of stupidity, as Saturn will be ironically devoured by his children instead of the other way around. His own science is defeating Saturn.
I would argue that Saturn especially cannot be defeated before EOS. With the reveal that the Ancient Kingdom had futuristic technology, and the reveal that Saturn is pretty much the guy responsible for the technological repression of the OP world, how can you argue Saturn of all Gorosei will be defeated now when futuristic technology will be a recurring theme into the end of the series? It’s like you’re eliminating the villain of an entire narrative before Oda has even elaborated on that narrative lol.
That’d be like arguing that Sauron should’ve died in book 1 of LOTR when we still had two major books to go and the conflict against Mordor hadn’t even really began yet.
Garling becoming a Gorosei would just be random as fuck, especially if the Gorosei are recipients of the Immortality Sugery. Law ain’t about to make Garling immortal lmfao.
Except for Shabondy, Impel Down, and Marineford. Lol
EDIT: and Loguetown. And Zou. And Amazon Lily. And Jaya (Bellamy doesn’t count)
And Egghead is the new Shabondy. You can’t appeal to precedent when the arc Eggheaded is precedented on contradicts your narrative.
That’d be like arguing that Sauron should’ve died in book 1 of LOTR when we still had two major books to go and the conflict against Mordor hadn’t even really began yet.
Garling becoming a Gorosei would just be random as fuck, especially if the Gorosei are recipients of the Immortality Sugery. Law ain’t about to make Garling immortal lmfao.
Except for Shabondy, Impel Down, and Marineford. Lol
EDIT: and Loguetown. And Zou. And Amazon Lily. And Jaya (Bellamy doesn’t count)
And Egghead is the new Shabondy. You can’t appeal to precedent when the arc Eggheaded is precedented on contradicts your narrative.
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Even Reborn goes in the same direction than my arguments, while we were disagreeing with each other weeks ago.
This is comforting in a sense.
It's really amazing how people would rather see random characters face an admiral than Zoro, the 2nd strongest Straw Hat and the one who always follows his captain.
Even if you are an admiral fan and I don't entirely agree with your arguments and view of the story that seems to be biased by your love of the admirals, you still make sense compared to many other people. You still understand much more about this series and don't deny obvious things like other people do.
I agree with you that Egghead is not a mere escape arc. The Straw Hats barricaded themselves in Egghead, they could have escaped ages ago if their purpose was only to escape the arc. Why go to Egghead in the first place and stay there if this is an escape arc?
We also know the outcome of the Straw Hats barricading themselves in Egghead: an outcome that will shock the entire world. Escaping an island where the Straw Hats got themselves in is not it.
Both Saturn and Kizaru will take an L. Now, the specifics of it, we already gave our opinions on it and that's where we disagree but regardless, we know where this is heading towards.
This is comforting in a sense.
It's really amazing how people would rather see random characters face an admiral than Zoro, the 2nd strongest Straw Hat and the one who always follows his captain.
Even if you are an admiral fan and I don't entirely agree with your arguments and view of the story that seems to be biased by your love of the admirals, you still make sense compared to many other people. You still understand much more about this series and don't deny obvious things like other people do.
I agree with you that Egghead is not a mere escape arc. The Straw Hats barricaded themselves in Egghead, they could have escaped ages ago if their purpose was only to escape the arc. Why go to Egghead in the first place and stay there if this is an escape arc?
We also know the outcome of the Straw Hats barricading themselves in Egghead: an outcome that will shock the entire world. Escaping an island where the Straw Hats got themselves in is not it.
Both Saturn and Kizaru will take an L. Now, the specifics of it, we already gave our opinions on it and that's where we disagree but regardless, we know where this is heading towards.
