Rules Mafia News Updates

AL sama · Mar 14, 2020

Mafia News Updates

this thread will serve the purpose of announcing any big news or changes regarding this section to you all.

AL sama · Mar 14, 2020

Announcement

@Denim is being promoted to Coach. from now on he'll help you all with hosting and any other matter within the section alongside me.

congrats buddy.

Dragomir · Feb 28, 2021

Coaches & Rules -

Hello everybody! I would like to announce @novaselinenever and @Zem as new coaches for the section! Zem will strictly be a coach for Town of Salem, while Nova will be able to coach in any game type, from Light game to SRM. Big congrats to them!

Important information to know -

As I'm sure many of y'all have noticed, ToS has its own subsection now for which all ToS games are to be hosted in. Included in that section are role guides to assist the players. ToS will still follow the overall Mafia Calendar.
There can be no more than 5 ToS games per season.
Users can host a maximum of 3 games in a season whether it be solo or co-hosting.
If you are up next to host in the season and your game is not ready then it will be immediately dropped to the bottom of the calendar and the next man up will go instead. Please be a responsible host and have your setups finished when it's your turn to go.
Angle-shooting is strictly forbidden. Doing it will subject you to a mod-kill, a warning point, and a potential temporary ban in the section.

Dragomir · Jun 26, 2021

New Arrivals -

Hello, members of the Worstgen Mafia Community! I am proud to announce the arrival of two big editions to the section, a patch for the calendar, and a rework of an old thread.

Calendar -
Starting off with the calendar! There has been a tremendous amount of backlog in the Mafia Calendar that has caused hosts to wait many months even potentially a full year to host their game. That is simply atrocious. In order to fix that, the coaches have come up with a revamped version.

Town of Salem and Throne of Lies have their own separate calendar in which anybody can sign up for and host at any time. These games will be hosted in the new combined section called "Salem of Lies."
For the remainder of Season 2, the next host in line should post their signup thread once the current game reaches Night 1. When the signups are full and the current game has reached Night 4, that host should start their game immediately(however, it will be a little different for the current Hololive and next All-Stars game since both of these are Super Role Madness).
Beginning in Season 3, we will officially go with a two-game system. That means we will be having two games occur at the exact same time.

With these changes, we hope to dramatically increase the speed of the calendar and anticipate Season 3's arrival to be around late October or early November. For more details visit the Mafia Calendar and read the 'rules' sections.

Game Types -
Next up is the reworked Game Types thread. It provides a clearer explanation of the different game types, while also providing some guidelines when it comes to hosting some of them. Furthermore, it also contains an explanation of the recently added section Salem of Lies and even a little tidbit of Assassin Games if you are interested in that.

Arrivals -
Now for the main dish, our first new arrival is the addition of a Throne of Lies Guide! After Throne of Lies II, @Ena and I came to realize how unfavorable the Throne of Lies wiki is to forum mafia. It doesn't translate very well in it and it can be quite wonky and confusing trying to play it as exactly as shown in the wiki. As such, we created our own guide for the section. This guide is much more forum-friendly. Please refer to the guide when you're playing or hosting a Throne of Lies game. DO NOT use the wiki. You can visit the guide here.

Last but definitely not least is the official Worstgen Mafia Leaderboard! This leaderboard is a record of games, victories, players, hosts, that has essentially ever graced the Worstgen Mafia section. It will show you who has the most wins, most MVPs, most games hosted by a host, and other stats. It will show how you stack up against your peers in the community. How many wins you got, town wins, mafia wins, indie wins, how many games you've played, your win rate, and the games you have hosted. This leaderboard will be updated halfway through each season. It took me a long time to make this so I really hope I did not make a counting error here lol. Go check it out! Leaderboard

Dragomir · Oct 31, 2021

The Calendar is No More

Hello everyone! I have once again come to make an important announcement. After a discussion with the coaches, there will be no more mafia calendar. There are too many issues with it to sustain, not to mention, only a very few people even want it. Everybody else hates it. What will happen now is that anybody may whenever they would like to. The coaches and approved system will stay intact. For non-approved hosts, you will have to contact a coach and have them approve your setup. You must wait for the green light from your coach before posting signups. Only non-approved hosts have to do that. Approved hosts can post signups whenever they're ready. When you have posted your signups, you must host the game within an 8-week period. Failure to do so will have your game booted. All games will count towards the leaderboard. This will be effective starting now. Please keep in mind that the Weeb game will be starting soon, so if you're posting signups, try to aim for a start date around late November or early December.

AL sama · Oct 31, 2021

hello everyone I've some things to announce. @Ratchet @Rej and @Noctis have taken upon the job of coaches. from now on drago, zem, ratchet, novas, rej and noctis will be handling things for the section. don't worry I m not going anywhere I'll be looking over things from the backseat.

Dragomir · May 3, 2022

Coaching Adjustments

I would like to preface this message by stating that I personally like the coaching system. I believe that the order it has brought to the section has played a big part in the success of our thriving mafia community. Additionally, I believe that it is what makes Worstgen Mafia unique. However, I understand the discord it has created within the community about how certain things ought to be handled. And as seen in the queries thread created by Noctis, the vast majority of you agree that changes need to be made. I have read your complaints and suggestions, and have come to a conclusion on the best course of action to take.

Coaches -
To begin, the formal coach position shall stay intact in the section. It shall still be REQUIRED for complete beginner hosts to have a coach for their game. This is necessary to ensure that this newbie host can learn hosting properly and be guided on the right path. We cannot have newbie hosts be thrown into the wilderness of hosting all on their own and fend for themselves. Hosting is hard.

BUT, going forward, "approved hosts" will no longer be an official thing. If you yourself believe that you can host a game on your own without the guidance of a coach, then go for it. The coaches will no longer be the ones to judge your "readiness", you are free to judge it for yourself. However, don't hesitate to reach out to a coach if you need some help as you're hosting your game. I am personally always willing to help out any host in need. All you need to do is ask.

Modding -
From now on, coaches won't have any mod-like authority to punish players. It will be at the discretion of a host themselves if they want to ban a player from their games. Coaches will no longer be allowed to ban players from games or serve any sort of punishment to a player. That is not their duty. HOWEVER, if egregious enough, then I, as the primary mafia mod, will see it fit to ban someone from hosting or playing if their actions are deserving of such a punishment.

To expand on hosts banning players from their games, before they can do, they ought to talk to me or another mod first about their issues with the specific player they want to be excluded from their games. After that, it can be decided whether or not this ban is justified. We do not want hosts banning players from their games left and right just because they can.

I will create a formal, universal mafia rules and guidelines thread for the community. These rules will need to be followed at all costs and if anybody breaks enough of them, then I reserve the right to punish them accordingly.

With that being said, I am lifting the bans of both @Midnight Delight and @Joygirl. Both are now free to play any mafia games as long as the host of the game is okay with it.

Thank you all for reading this message.

Dragomir · May 31, 2022

Mafia Rules

Hello mafia players and hosts! I am here to announce the creation of a formal mafia rules and guidelines thread! You can access the thread here. Please adhere to these rules to the best of your ability. I want to bring special attention to this rule in light of the drama and rampant negativity that has occurred so far this year:

Play with respect. I cannot stress that enough. It's okay to meme and the like but remember that at the end of the day, there are real humans behind each screen. Be considerate of others. If someone is taking offense or is being hurt by your actions, back off. Apologize. We are supposed to be friends here, not adversaries. Be kind to one another.

In addition to this, the leaderboard has been moved to the archive. It is being disabled. I will no longer be tracking game stats.

Thank you for reading this message.

Dragomir · Jul 26, 2022

A New Era -

Hello, hello! I'm here to announce that I will be formally stepping down as the head of this section. I've spent a good two years here and I've enjoyed them very much. Thank you for playing mafia with me, thank you for playing my games, and thank you all for the wonderful experiences you have provided me in this community.

Now, you must all be wondering... who will be the new Sheriff Godfather in town?

I would like to welcome and congratulate @Ratchet as the new head of the Worstgen Mafia section! Congratulations, Ratchet!

Ratchet · Sep 4, 2024

Rules Update -

Upon reflection regarding recent games here, I've decided to change how some rules work. I want to preface this by saying Mafia is an inherently intense game. People are going to get emotional, and in emotion, are going to say things they don't really mean. And as with any community, some people are going to dislike one another, for whatever reason. With that being said, there are two different tiers to this. Insults will happen, and it's simply not tenable to remove them from a game like this entirely. While everyone is still expected to adhere to the site rules, I don't want to foster a community that feels like they can't express themselves. I've always supported leniency for this, and that's still the case. There is, however, a difference between what I'm talking about, and personal vitriol that goes beyond the context of the games. As mentioned, some people will dislike one another. I have no intention of forcing you to be friends - that's not possible. But there is no place for these spats *within* games. From hereon forth, anyone who makes referencing to ongoing/personal issues with another user that has no bearing on the game itself will be force replaced, and failing that, modkilled.

I've wanted to leave these decisions to hosts, because of the affect it can have on a game, but it's beyond clear to me that hosts will not take action that's needed for fear of affecting their game. And I completely get it - no host wants to modkill a player. This sort of responsibility worked "back in the day", perhaps because hosts were more willing to compromise their games, but it's not working now. Hosts will still have the say in whether arguments reach a certain level it shouldn't, provided that the arguments are still related back to the game, but once it reaches a level where it no longer is within the bounds of the game, that's where that responsibility will end. I encourage users to use the "report" function for comments that they feel crosses this line. How this will work is once I see a report (or the comment itself, if I happen to be reading the thread), I'll review it to see if it crosses this line. If I feel it does, that user will be threadbanned. I'll then inform the hosts of this. The hosts will then need to either modkill the slot, or look for a replacement. Note that this notification is not an invitation for the hosts to appeal on the player's behalf. While this replacement search is ongoing, the player threadbanned is invited to start a PM with the hosts, myself, and the user's this comment was directed towards. While the player can defend themselves here, the main expectation is this is to allow the player who crossed the line to offer an apology to those concerned. Should that apology be accepted, they may be allowed back in the game. I would like to reiterate - please do not assume that I will see posts that you feel go beyond in-game frustration. If you feel something is objectionable enough, use the report button.

I do not expect this will solve the whole issue. But I do hope that this will begin to deter behaviour that is reaching the point of being irreconcilable. I believe that, for the most part, everyone in this community is a good person. Flawed, as we all are, but good. The people I do not think this of, are not welcome to play here any longer. As a collective, we *need* to do better. Nobody wants a community that is hostile towards one another, and I frankly see no good reason for it. Most of us barely know each other outside of these games, there's no reason to develop grudges or hatred between one another over something like this. This will probably not be the only thing I need to change on this, but for now I think it's the first step into what I hope is a better environment. I should also stress that hosts still have the freedom, to remove players that are causing issues even if it doesn't quite cross this line - this is purely taking the responsibility away from hosts once conduct reaches a certain threshold that I think is most damaging to community harmony.

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