Questions & Mysteries "My audience will not be satisfied if Luffy defeats Kaido just because his punch is so strong"-Eichirro Oda [Paraphrased]

Did Oda Let Himself Down?


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I'm fairly I understand the quote perfectly since it's not really that hard for anyone to understand. Neither of you, as well as others, seem to get the point of why it's still a fuck-up and your responses are pretty evident of that, so I'll elaborate whilst still hoping that this isn't the end of the battle.

1. It's a statement he never needed to make in the 1st damn place since the result is the same.

2. The result itself is painfully uncreative. Like I know I should expect repetitive & unoriginal outcomes but come on...



So let's expand a bit here.

1. It's Oda fault for promising something he never needed to promise. Luffy vs Kaido has long since been a disappointment on it's own for multiple reasons, but when you add to this statement that he made six years ago, no wonder he's getting backlash when he essentially did was hype up a terrible fight even further than necessary. It's bad enough that this arc has been long since hyped for about a decade now, taking it a step further isn't going to do it any favors.

2. Thanks to previous chapters, now there's no other ways that Luffy could defeat Kaido without punching (or kicking, headbutting, or any other kind of lame direct physical attack). Oda already had the tools that since he spent this whole arc & timeskip making for Luffy to succeed. So instead of literally anything else better, Oda set himself up for this fuck-up. And the G5 + Awakening reveal makes it even worse. The Nika reveal makes the claim that Luffy's fruit is supposed to be the most ridiculous fruits ever that is only limited by its user's imagination, and since this is the case Oda COULD HAVE used any method for Luffy to defeat Kaido. I mean he grabbed fucken Lightning not too long ago.

And a lot of the defenses (like yours) just come off as cope and some degree of mental gymnastics for what he meant. A lot of them are just pre-emptive excuses just in case Oda fails to deliver his promise.

The simplest way to interpret Oda's message is he didn't want for the defeat to involve a punch, and quite literally said his audience wouldn't be satisfied with it. I'll say it again - Masquerading it with new power ups still makes it a punch, which is why a portion of fans are not satisfied with it. Alright, Oda didn't really deliver with his original statement. I won't crucify him but I'm still going to criticize him for not figuring out a more creative way to end this fight, like the way Big Mom was taken out by Kid and Law. Kaido and Luffy are practically just fist fighting, which is the most boring way for this fight to conclude. Luffy is not a martial artist or athlete that has to obey the rules. Luffy's is a pirate and not only that, he also has the most broken DF that can be use anyway he want.
You don't speak Japanese, don't know what you are talking about and are going off on a tangent.

The distinction from just punching hard with extra effort vs. having several in universe foreshadowed abilities converge to allow him to deliver a stronger punch is clear to anyone who puts a bit of thought into it.
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Sussy bakas? Lol where do you here that
I think it's going round twitch at the moment lol
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Becoming a coc specialist at that short of a time....
You don't "become" a coc specialist, your haki speciality is inate.
Luffy's speciality was confirmed as CoC, Zoro's was confirmed as CoA.
Unlike CoA which can be trained, CoC cannot, so being a specialist is much more important.
 
You don't speak Japanese, don't know what you are talking about and are going off on a tangent.

The distinction from just punching hard with extra effort vs. having several in universe foreshadowed abilities converge to allow him to deliver a stronger punch is clear to anyone who puts a bit of thought into it.
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Dude, how the hell am I going off on a tangent? You choosing to discredit what I said all because YOU don't understand what I'm talking about doesn't change that. I can't be going on a tangent when I'm literally talking about the quote being discussed. The distinction is obvious but it's also unnecessary and stupid to begin with, which was my entire point. Next time just ask me to simplify my "tangent" so you can understand it, since it's clearly difficult for you to "put a bit of thought into it" :suresure:
 
They are misquoting Oda and claiming he never said a punch will finish him. When in reality what he said was that Luffy wouldn't beat Kaido because his punch was so strong. He beat Kaido because he gained mastery over 2 types of Haki that allow him to hurt Kaido. This has nothing to do with a stronger punch.

I've even heard Brago (Youtuber) say this numerous times. I'm like dude are you at all paying attention to what Oda has been focusing on these past 4 years? What has Luffy been struggling to do this whole time? People have been reading and regurgitating this quote every single the time.
It still shows he won because his punch was stronger and bigger even it was lethal due to adcoc and ryuo
 
Funny thing is,

Gear5 gave a lot of improvments on Luffy's abilities but not Haki.

Which basically means, Luffy's haki on Gear4 and Gear5 is the same.

The difference between Gear4 Supreme Kong Gun and Gear5 Bajrang Gun is how massive Bajrang Gun size is compared to Supreme Kong Gun.

That basically means Luffy won with a stronger punch.
 
Funny thing is,

Gear5 gave a lot of improvments on Luffy's abilities but not Haki.

Which basically means, Luffy's haki on Gear4 and Gear5 is the same.

The difference between Gear4 Supreme Kong Gun and Gear5 Bajrang Gun is how massive Bajrang Gun size is compared to Supreme Kong Gun.

That basically means Luffy won with a stronger punch.
It means the punch was not stronger, just larger
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"My audience will not be satisfied if Luffy defeats Kaido just because his punch is so strong"-Eichirro Oda

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"My audience may be satisfied if Luffy defeats Kaido without even touching"- who the hell is this one?!,.,?!.'-*+,.?
 
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BBsZehahaInTheNewWorld

Chill the fuck out, the reason Oda's statement is such a controversy now is because Oda's angels force themselves to believe this is the grande finale.

We might not be dealing with Prime Oda anymore, but Luffy's attack is Oda definitely saying in our faces "This was not the end".

Even if you don't believe in the #YEAROFKAIDO, just use your damn brain, this is in no way the conclusion of a 400 chapter storyline.
 
If it wasn't his punch it could have been something like Thor Axe even though he was probably metaphorical 🤔 unless Kaido is indeed not yet defeated and the Grandmaster will have to ultimate the work
 
The main reason it’s obvious that Kaido and this conflict isn’t done is Momo having yet to have his big moment, he’s been the focal point of a 10 year + buildup and Kaido hasn’t even seen his Oden form yet lol, even if it’s not another round for the fight he’s definitely getting back out of the hole.
it would be cool if they evacuate the people onto onigashima and then momo has to hold up everyone in wano
 
If Oda wrote like Tolkien we'd have a lot more people complaining and one piece would have been cancelled 15 years ago because it's nothing but empty panels of people walking through fields and forests.
I don't know how you interpreted "writing quality" to mean "same story"; I didn't say if Oda was writing the same story as Tolkien, I'm saying if the quality of his writing was similar. Also the guy that was " just writing people walking through forests", was considered to be, by renowned authors by the way not some nasally schmucks on reddit and worstgen, to be one of the best authors of fiction. What's also hilarious is that what Tolkien was most praised for is what Oda is as well, which is world building. So again I'm talking about the quality not the actual content being alike.
 
The fact that Oda made this statement, and then had Luffy deliver his biggest, strongest, most powerful punch this last chapter to "seemingly" put down Kaido, should tell everyone everything they need to know. Oda is trolling the fuck out of yall. Kaido ain't done.
I don't really understand how you guys read a shonen, the pther guy bringing up tolkien
I thought it was just zoro wankers, but now i have doubts
A shonen for 12 years old, willingly misunderstanding a statement, just to prove what?
 

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World's Strongest Swordsman
The fact that Oda made this statement, and then had Luffy deliver his biggest, strongest, most powerful punch this last chapter to "seemingly" put down Kaido, should tell everyone everything they need to know. Oda is trolling the fuck out of yall. Kaido ain't done.
Kaido isn't done. Luffy is.
 
Y’all have way too much faith in Oda lol
Crazy how many people still think Kaido is still getting up for another round 💀 and I’m sure Morj is partly to blame for this 😂. Can’t help but feel u guys are setting urself up for massive disappointment:catsweat:. We already got Kaido’s FB & more or less kno the reason he’s been waiting on Wano (I.e. to fight Joyboy) and also kno he expects to lose to Joyboy whilst he loses to Joyboy lol. Plus Momo has landed Onigashima safely, so not sure what y’all still want. Also y’all that are saying this can’t be the end and the fight hasn’t been satisfying etc. ask urself how many times u’ve told urself that only to have egg on ur face this arc?💀 so why would this be any different?

Anyways on the topic at hand Luffy ending this fight with a massive punch is not really a good look but there’s more to it than meets the eye. The punch is an accumulation of every PU Luffy’s gotten this arc & there’s been a shit ton of it so I for one have no qualms about him beating Kaido with all the ridiculous PUs he’s had this arc. Moreover, the only reason he was even able to win this final clash with Kaido was bcoz he’s learnt barrier Haki earlier on in the arc. At the end of the day Luffy’s fight with Kaido was always gonna end with a powerful punch in some shape or form, I mean how else he’s he supposed to win?

Lastly I think one of the main reasons for the disappointment is that the fanbase has convinced itself that Kaido’s Dragon form is his weakest form when Oda’s never outright stated that the full zoan is the weakest zoan form The reality is each Zoan form has its benefits. Would’ve been hella retarded for Kaido to have challenged Luffy’s Monkey God Gun in hybrid, so full zoan was obviously the most appropriate for this scenario.
 
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