You fell for the LBJ propaganda hook line and sinker then, that's every Lebron fans argument. That LBJ would have won all those rings if KD didn't play. Which is far from the truth, that team was up 3-1 on the Cavs with an injured Steph.
The OKC team that year was better than that Cavs team. Easily. Bogut going down, Iggy's back problems, and Draymond suspension, plus Steph not being 100%, that Cavs team never beat the 73-9 team, they beat a shell of that team.
If healthy, that series goes 5 games max. They could run it back next year, only concern would be health, and OKC (if KD stayed), Cavs weren't doing anything. GSW were simply better. Not even saying Cavs weren't talented, they were, but with all that talent they were about to go down in 5 games to a Steph that was maybe 70% at best.
The OKC team that year was better than that Cavs team. Easily. Bogut going down, Iggy's back problems, and Draymond suspension, plus Steph not being 100%, that Cavs team never beat the 73-9 team, they beat a shell of that team.
If healthy, that series goes 5 games max. They could run it back next year, only concern would be health, and OKC (if KD stayed), Cavs weren't doing anything. GSW were simply better. Not even saying Cavs weren't talented, they were, but with all that talent they were about to go down in 5 games to a Steph that was maybe 70% at best.
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No, Golden State was the better team by far. You can argue the individual stars all you want but it’s not even close with the rest. They had a finals mvp coming off their bench lmao. Add to that key role players in Barnes, Livingston, Bogut, Barbosa lol. Compare that to Jr Henny Smith, Trissy Thompson, Iman Shrimpert, etc lmao its not even close. That main reason that Cavs team even beat Golden State was because Lebron and Kyrie went historically nuts for 4 straight games, not because they were the better team.
Golden State.
Easy answer. It took a Steph not being healthy, Iguodala not being healthy, Bogut injury, Draymond suspension, rigged game 6, and legendary performances by LBJ and Kyrie to barely scrape by a win in the last minutes of a game 7.
You redo that series 20 times, 19 out of 20 GSW win, Cavs just happened to get that one time to work.
In 2015 GSW were a new team they were just nervous being in the finals.
Easy answer. It took a Steph not being healthy, Iguodala not being healthy, Bogut injury, Draymond suspension, rigged game 6, and legendary performances by LBJ and Kyrie to barely scrape by a win in the last minutes of a game 7.
You redo that series 20 times, 19 out of 20 GSW win, Cavs just happened to get that one time to work.
In 2015 GSW were a new team they were just nervous being in the finals.
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I’m aware but Igoudala is far more valuable than anyone not named Lebron, Kyrie or Love on those Cavs rosters. Also you don’t gotta be a budding star to make an impact on a champsionship team Nidai, those guys were very useful to what GS had running and complemented the stars well. Barnes is still very solid btw.
Even though basketball is a team sports, you shouldnt underrate individual talents.
We also have the fact that Lebron alone took the GSW to 6 games the season earlier.
JR Smith was pretty good during the finals, right? You are selling him short. TT Thompson also played pretty well. Nevertheless, my point is, you cant rely on the role players to win. I understand they are important pieces, but it comes down to the main cast in the end in a close series IMO.
We also have the fact that Lebron alone took the GSW to 6 games the season earlier.
JR Smith was pretty good during the finals, right? You are selling him short. TT Thompson also played pretty well. Nevertheless, my point is, you cant rely on the role players to win. I understand they are important pieces, but it comes down to the main cast in the end in a close series IMO.
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Also Draymond at his best was a swiss army on defense and had DPOY level impact. On offense his playmaking was invaluable to the offball movement Kerr had runnning for Steph/Klay.
I mean we just saw how Miami implemented some of GS’s system with lesser talent and they were able to get to the Finals with that. Draymond’s impact on both ends was always crucial for this team, the box score doesn’t tell the whole story.
I mean we just saw how Miami implemented some of GS’s system with lesser talent and they were able to get to the Finals with that. Draymond’s impact on both ends was always crucial for this team, the box score doesn’t tell the whole story.
Aren't you the same guy that said the Lakers had no chance last year because LeBron was washed?
Love this debate though.
Amazing lol. Great player but never the same just as he hit 30 with injuries. His 2014 season was the most unique season I've seen from a Center at the time 'cause he was basically a point center in addition to being the best defender. Now you see centers doing what he's doing and more. Also, Draymond reminds me of a smaller Noah with a better shot.
Love this debate though.
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