Been away for so long... I'll back read because discussions seems good...
Yamato will remain stronger than Sanji to the end of the series.
Not gonna happen...
Sanji will no longer be Luffy's 3rd Strongest Subordinate
Of course he isn't... Sanji is Luffy's 2nd "strongest" subordinate...
Oda magically make Sanji stronger than her
Yes? But to be fair, we haven't seen too much about Yamato...
On a slightly unrelated note, I expect Yamato's position in the crew to be combatant (like Lucky Roo) and for Zoro to become the "Vice Captain"/"First Mate" (like Benn Beckmann).
Not gonna happen... Yamato will get another role...
I don't really see it as something that hurts Yamato's chances even if Sanji as top 3 dynamic was a thing to uphold, in my mind Jinbe is already stronger than Sanji and if he is meant to be below him from now on (fighting wise) then whatever combat scaling logic that would be broken or forced with Yamato joining has already happened with Jinbe even if the Raid Suit did improve Sanji drastically. In the end another powerhouse like Yamato close to endgame as a combatant addition makes a lot of sense to me as well regardless of perceived ranking.
This...
I genuinely do not understand this. Why do you think Yamato is not a legitimate candidate to join the crew?
The simple answer is that he is so fixated to Carrot... He doesn't mind about quality and story progression... You can see it through his fanfics... Simple as that...
Been around long enough to remember when people thought Paulie was gonna join after Water 7/Enies Lobby, there were still contingents of the fandom calling for it even after Franky rocketed past him in terms of viability just because he had a connection to a “mentor” in Iceburg and a unique design/fighting style (with absolutely no other indicators that he ever had an actual shot). Keep shouting into the void about Carrot, Oda’s bound to hear you eventually!!
This... I also want to remind people about the Prison Break Team... Bon and Iva bonded way longer with Luffy than any other members of the team (Buggy, 3, Daz, Jinbe, Croc), only for the one who clashed with Ace to outpoint them later on...
1. Carrot does not have story central arc that make her focus in any arc she part of. Every arc she has taken part she has been mostly there to be a support character rather being a main character in her own arc.
She fits better as a cover story character...
I won’t lie, I was also week-to-week and not fully sold on Franky at the time until the Gates of Justice when he stood with the crew...but a lot of folks were really pulling for the rope guy, I see a lot of parallels between the futility of their cause and that of Carrot4Nakama.
Agree... Except Pauly really stood a way more solid chance before... And happened before Oda's serious health concerns...
I’m telling you, there were some real Paulie stans back in the day
I remember people were even trying to insert Pauly's name in the infobox on the Straw Hat Pirates page on Wikipedia (there was a SH page on WP before) even after they left W7...
His true goal was to kill Doflamingo, becoming Pirate King was a ruse.
Didn't he mention before that he's also into One Piece, just that he's not in a hurry because he believes that One Piece won't move into somewhere else anyway...
So in turn what do you think Carrot will do after Wano if she doesn't join the straw hats? I find this to be yet another point in support of Carrot joining, since unlike Yamao who has different outcomes, there's only one outcome that makes sense for Carrot's character. And that's of course joining the straw hats.
Carrot has lots of outcomes as well... You're just keeping a blind eye:
- Replace Pedro's spot as a Guardian (the "Nekoguards") - makes the most sense
- Join the Heart Pirates if Law decides to search for poneglyphs in the Blue regions
- Stay at Wano as one of Momo's retainers
- Join the new Nox Pirates if the 2nd option doesn't happen
Only one way for Carrot? To join the Strawhats? What a load of shit. No point ever debating with you because everything you add is caked in bias.
Just let him be...
Carrot's not a leader. Every single member of the fleet bar none was already an established leader of some sorts or had clearly stated ambitions to lead others throughout the arc. Carrot's nothing like that at all.
Yeah right, Ideo was an established leader prior to forming his own group...
This won't close until the final arc... Yes, let's do this!
Carrot can join, for emergency Rations.
Lol but really, only if her character gets better and not so bland and forced moe/kuwaii. No offense Carrot fans but she's really just another Chopper given a slightly different form/packaging.
Yamato is quiet different from the other two girls. So she would be a great addition to the crew.
Luffy even said that minks are "Choppers"...
Interesting how Carrot isn’t on any of the covers.
IMO it means nothing...
Do you think he's gonna left back the most popular mink now? Because I don't think so xD
Boa Hancock...
Also will we finally put the nonsense idea of Chopper learning Sulong to rest now? Chopper just got his new powerup and he's likely not getting a proper 1 v 1 this arc since he's already done his job with the cure and stalling Queen.
Nope... He's not yet done...
A guardian protector that appears only when the emperor is virtuous basically hammers home the point that Yamao's role is Momo bound.
This is an interesting info... Emperor? So a Yonko like Kaido, or who's the "5th Emperor" by the way?
What's next Carrot fans? Carrot still going to save Luffy in the sea? Going back to a rematch with Perospero? What's the next lunatic move?
Carrot is not main character material, is it that hard to understand. All you can expect is 2 panels at the end of act 3.
If she eats grass like Peros said, I'll be convinced that she'll join...
Eh i think bringing up carrot joining in that moment would take away from Jinbe’s moment of finally joining after so long.
Did Usopp returning took away Franky's joining and the new ship?
And what would you say about Carrot who's spent far more time with the crew and in the series than Yamao?
Like Kin'emon and Law... Well, props to Kin for acknowledging Luffy before they set off to fight Kaido, unlike the rabbit mink who just went on her own without acknowledging anyone, not even Inu and Neko...
That flashback we see from Carrot is remarkably similar tama, chu chu, paulie, and bartolomeo that just one page backstory. That has a lot desire history with that certain Individual. In other words this still leaves little details surround there relationship as whole. For me is not worthy nakama status. Usually when comes flashback they have much more more details Surrounding their characters and their history with that individual.
Usually when comes female’s straw hats they give you some dialogue, or other characters talk about the certain individual about their backstory. In later arcs we would eventually know everything about what they meant back then in previous arcs. It would all be fully flesh out in the flashback and in the arc general that revolve around them . Carrot has not done no such thing and she has never been told anything regarding her personal life.
That is the same circumstance that people thought about Rebecca. Rebeeca was not strong or powerful hanging out with best of them. Her father had bailed her out fight against diamante alongside with robin. In this case cat viper deals with perrosprow you might as well form nox pirates under mink division under captain carrot. Since the fact that she won't be able to use her full potential when the moon is full. There is going a lot instances where the straw hats are going to fight during day. Where it ends up being cloudy and the moon isn't full. Which would make impossible for someone like carrot transform at that point in time. Carrot you might have history with straw hats 3 arcs at this point time but you still lack A story centric art that's about you and you are not strong enough hang out with best of them. Despite her having role being "look out" there other character that can do that already. Carrot base form and suslong it has more supporting capabilities might as well join the grand fleet.
Spot on, this...
The grand fleet captains are leaders, carrot has not shown any interest in starting her own crew nor has she shown any leadership qualities.
Ideo?
this is one of the more active threads that isn’t mostly about Zoro vs Sanji
This...
