To showcase the abilities of this side of the alliance in a good light, otherwise they would a bunch of faceless background fodder with nothing to offer
if they showcased Sulong in Zou against Jack it wouldnt have seemed like it was anything since they ultimate were beaten and nearly wiped out
And if they showed in with Pedro and he still blows himself up, it would come across as a weak power up because he still had to resort to the bomb
Well... it has just been a low-power up for fodders anyway. Hardly worth using a whole character just for that over two arcs when you already had the Dog and Cat able to show it off on Wano anyway...
The idea that Carrot is just a hype tool for the minks came from people misunderstanding that the relationship was actually the other way around all along. Oda was actually using the mink powers and abilities to make Carrot more significant. She was the first mink we saw on Zou. The first mink to use electro. The first mink to use unique gauntlet weapons. The first mink to float. The only mink to super jump. The first mink to use Sulong.
Whilst Carrot showcasing these abilities had the added effect of hyping up the minks in general, the one who got the most hype was always Carrot since she was consistently the one actually revealing the skills to us for the first time which will usually be the most memorable.
When you think of Sulong, the first thing you most likely think about is Carrot. Whether you like her or not. I don't believe that's unintentional. Compare how Carrot's Sulong was showcased to how Inu and Neko had theirs. Other than her, they had the most hype to their new forms and even then they can't compare to the iconic scene Oda created for Carrot's transformation.
As we know, there were plenty of other opportunities to show off Sulong. Heck, Pedro could've instead died from Sulong exertion whilst holding off Perospero and BM. Would've shown how powerful it could be but also the danger it presented.
There's a reason why Carrot's always the special one. Even if you don't think she's joining the crew. She's the most important mink.
Oda didn't create a character, give her one of the highest (non-straw hat) total panel counts in the entire series, all for the sake of hyping a half chapter battle sequence for fodder, that ended in failure.
The idea that Carrot is just a hype tool for the minks came from people misunderstanding that the relationship was actually the other way around all along. Oda was actually using the mink powers and abilities to make Carrot more significant. She was the first mink we saw on Zou. The first mink to use electro. The first mink to use unique gauntlet weapons. The first mink to float. The only mink to super jump. The first mink to use Sulong.
Whilst Carrot showcasing these abilities had the added effect of hyping up the minks in general, the one who got the most hype was always Carrot since she was consistently the one actually revealing the skills to us for the first time which will usually be the most memorable.
When you think of Sulong, the first thing you most likely think about is Carrot. Whether you like her or not. I don't believe that's unintentional. Compare how Carrot's Sulong was showcased to how Inu and Neko had theirs. Other than her, they had the most hype to their new forms and even then they can't compare to the iconic scene Oda created for Carrot's transformation.
As we know, there were plenty of other opportunities to show off Sulong. Heck, Pedro could've instead died from Sulong exertion whilst holding off Perospero and BM. Would've shown how powerful it could be but also the danger it presented.
There's a reason why Carrot's always the special one. Even if you don't think she's joining the crew. She's the most important mink.
Oda didn't create a character, give her one of the highest (non-straw hat) total panel counts in the entire series, all for the sake of hyping a half chapter battle sequence for fodder, that ended in failure.
Carrot's Sulong was definitely a type tool for the Dukes. Inurashi said if Jack returns, they will show him the true power of the Minks. Carrot revealed that it was Sulong and we got info dropped on how it works. When the Dukes was about to reveal their own Sulongs, it was presented on a cliffhanger when them in shadow, portraying it as a big deal. It was 100% supposed to hype up the Sulongs of the Dukes.
Is Carrot the most important Mink? You could say that, but I once again emphasize the lack of SH fuel it gives. So many characters were important, so many traveled and fought with the SHs, none of them joined. Not to mention that Carrot is the literal opposite of a SH in many ways, most damning being the fact that, once again, she was happy her whole life without any conflict, has yet to be the centerpiece of an arc where the SHs has to solve her problems by defeating the main villain. Carrot would be the first SH who was happy, the first one who didn't have the primary focus in an arc, the first one who didn't have a villain to be taken out for them.
What can Carrot do if not be a SH? Becoming the 8th ship captain of the SH Grand Fleet. Fits her character arc as well. Jinbe's welcome party was postponed till after Kaido is beaten and the SH don't have their flag. Bellamy was crafting an unbreakable flag for the SHs during the Grand Fleet cover stories. It's implied they will come to Wano since the SHs need their flag.
Because Oda did the same for dozens of characters and they didn't join the crew. Even Hajrudin had a chapter dedicated to him. Once again, why is Carrot special?
Because Luffy is strongly tied both to the sun and bringing the dawn, so whatever Momonosuke does has to involve Luffy. Obviously, he could be with Luffy, but since it's something that only he can do, maybe it will be something in Wano.
Because Luffy is strongly tied both to the sun and bringing the dawn, so whatever Momonosuke does has to involve Luffy. Obviously, he could be with Luffy, but since it's something that only he can do, maybe it will be something in Wano.
Carrot's Sulong was definitely a type tool for the Dukes. Inurashi said if Jack returns, they will show him the true power of the Minks. Carrot revealed that it was Sulong and we got info dropped on how it works. When the Dukes was about to reveal their own Sulongs, it was presented on a cliffhanger when them in shadow, portraying it as a big deal. It was 100% supposed to hype up the Sulongs of the Dukes.
Is Carrot the most important Mink? You could say that, but I once again emphasize the lack of SH fuel it gives. So many characters were important, so many traveled and fought with the SHs, none of them joined. Not to mention that Carrot is the literal opposite of a SH in many ways, most damning being the fact that, once again, she was happy her whole life without any conflict, has yet to be the centerpiece of an arc where the SHs has to solve her problems by defeating the main villain. Carrot would be the first SH who was happy, the first one who didn't have the primary focus in an arc, the first one who didn't have a villain to be taken out for them.
What can Carrot do if not be a SH? Becoming the 8th ship captain of the SH Grand Fleet. Fits her character arc as well. Jinbe's welcome party was postponed till after Kaido is beaten and the SH don't have their flag. Bellamy was crafting an unbreakable flag for the SHs during the Grand Fleet cover stories. It's implied they will come to Wano since the SHs need their flag.
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Because Oda did the same for dozens of characters and they didn't join the crew. Even Hajrudin had a chapter dedicated to him. Once again, why is Carrot special?
She's already shown that she'd make for a great lookout with her incredible leaping abilities. And as far as we've seen with her time with Pedro, Wanda, the Rulers of the Mink Tribe and Chopper, Carrot is a follow-the-leader kind of person, so her being part of the 8th ship captain of the SH Grand Fleet most definitely does NOT fit her character.
And what other parts make her worthy of being a SH member is the fact that she yearns for adventure and learning about the world since she grew up only on Zou. She's also shown to be very brave when facing off against various soldiers in the WCI arc, and she's quite resourceful and cunning, especially when she tricked and eventually defeated Bruhlee. Not to mention, she's part of Pedro's wish to accompany the SH to the New Dawn.
Plus she's 15 and clearly has plenty of time for growth. So don't count her out just yet. Basically, she's got all the qualifications to be a part of the crew apart from her uniqueness of being a mink, which certainly adds to the diversity of the crew when you think about it.
She's already shown that she'd make for a great lookout with her incredible leaping abilities. And as far as we've seen with her time with Pedro, Wanda, the Rulers of the Mink Tribe and Chopper, Carrot is a follow-the-leader kind of person, so her being part of the 8th ship captain of the SH Grand Fleet most definitely does NOT fit her character.
And what other parts make her worthy of being a SH member is the fact that she yearns for adventure and learning about the world since she grew up only on Zou. She's also shown to be very brave when facing off against various soldiers in the WCI arc, and she's quite resourceful and cunning, especially when she tricked and eventually defeated Bruhlee. Not to mention, she's part of Pedro's wish to accompany the SH to the New Dawn.
Plus she's 15 and clearly has plenty of time for growth. So don't count her out just yet. Basically, she's got all the qualifications to be a part of the crew apart from her uniqueness of being a mink, which certainly adds to the diversity of the crew when you think about it.
Many characters fit in well with the SHs, many would be useful, many traveled with them and many fought with them. I don't see why Carrot is so different from the rest of them, especially considering she is the literally opposite of a SH by being happy her whole life without conflict and has yet to be the main focus of an arc with a final villain that has be beaten for her.
Can you tell me why Oda would do something completely different just for Carrot?
Brook was defeated but at least a Straw Hat was able defend his honor and fight for his own behalf. On top that Luffy was already interested in wanted him join in the first place. After hearing about his story when talking to Franky Luffy and all the straw hats except for nami approve of him joining the crew. On top that Brook does come to help the another characters when they are battling against Oars and Moria
Oda didn't create a character, give her one of the highest (non-straw hat) total panel counts in the entire series, all for the sake of hyping a half chapter battle sequence for fodder, that ended in failure.
What about those Wano panels? In the spawn of 120 chapters 83 panels and most of those are in the background saying nothing..
A bland character like Carrot has no place on the Sunny..
Many characters fit in well with the SHs, many would be useful, many traveled with them and many fought with them. I don't see why Carrot is so different from the rest of them, especially considering she is the literally opposite of a SH by being happy her whole life without conflict and has yet to be the main focus of an arc with a final villain that has be beaten for her.
Can you tell me why Oda would do something completely different just for Carrot?
Nice try. Gaimon is not a consistent character like Carrot, Law, Kinemon and Momo
Many characters like who exactly? And Carrot has been tagging and has bonded considerably well with her unlike Law, Kinemon and you can even put Momo in there too especially when it comes to fights.
And I've already explained why Carrot has better qualifications for joining the Straw Hats, especially when you compare that I said about her to Yamato, who's only really strong and is living out as Oden with nothing unique about her, except the fact that she's delusional when it comes to identifying as Oden and openly proclaiming to be Momo's dad.
Let's be real, the only reason the community on this website wants her to be a SH is because of her looks and her ability and nothing more. She doesn't necessarily present any unique crew trait that would make her a part of the crew.
Truth be told, she might just end up being a retainer to Momo and help rebuild Wano because that's what Oden ended doing too. Sure she might travel with them for a little bit, but she'd come back eventually just like Oden.
Many characters like who exactly? And Carrot has been tagging and has bonded considerably well with her unlike Law, Kinemon and you can even put Momo in there too especially when it comes to fights.
And I've already explained why Carrot has better qualifications for joining the Straw Hats, especially when you compare that I said about her to Yamato, who's only really strong and is living out as Oden with nothing unique about her, except the fact that she's delusional when it comes to identifying as Oden and openly proclaiming to be Momo's dad.
Let's be real, the only reason the community on this website wants her to be a SH is because of her looks and her ability and nothing more. She doesn't necessarily present any unique crew trait that would make her a part of the crew.
Truth be told, she might just end up being a retainer to Momo and help rebuild Wano because that's what Oden ended doing too. Sure she might travel with them for a little bit, but she'd come back eventually just like Oden.
Once again, Carrot was happy without conflict which is the literal opposite of what we've seen with the other 9 recruits. Carrot has yet to be the focus of an arc unlike the other recruits. Care to explain why Carrot and only Carrot, will get special treatment?
Viv, Paulie, Kyros, Rebecca, Viola, Pudding, Kinemon, Momo, Law etc...all of them has been integral to an arc, lots of interactions with SHs or fought by their side etc. and didn't join. But Carrot and Carrot alone stand out for the same thing?
Also, people only want Yamato join because of her looks and abilities? Not only were people advocating for her being a SH from day one like every other candidate, Carrot is no different. No fallacies please.
He’s not a…? Viable candidate just because he showed up, has a weird personality and body, and Luffy actually asked him to join?? Shit, it honestly sounds like he has MORE of a case than Carrot, something that would be true for all other side characters who had more of an impact on the story. You see how easy this is? It shouldn’t be so simple to blow up a potential nakama’s case, but Carrot simply doesn’t have a good one now, and perhaps she never did.
He’s not a…? Viable candidate just because he showed up, has a weird personality and body, and Luffy actually asked him to join?? Shit, it honestly sounds like he has MORE of a case than Carrot, something that would be true for all other side characters who had more of an impact on the story. You see how easy this is? It shouldn’t be so simple to blow up a potential nakama’s case, but Carrot simply doesn’t have a good one now, and perhaps she never did.
It's not about having a weird personality that makes them a viable candidate. I've made several passages in response to why Carrot makes sense; a great fighter, uses electricity, brave, bubbly Straw-Hat-like personality, incredible leaping abilities, Su Long, a natural curiosity to explore the world and adventure and her species adds to the crew's diversity.
It's not about having a weird personality that makes them a viable candidate. I've made several passages in response to why Carrot makes sense; a great fighter, uses electricity, brave, bubbly Straw-Hat-like personality, incredible leaping abilities, Su Long, a natural curiosity to explore the world and adventure and her species adds to the crew's diversity.
Yeah, I’ve read more “defenses” of Carrot’s chances than you’ve written and have never seen anything more substantial than “She’s hung around long enough to merit doing something big,” which really only applied before Yamato’s introduction. She’s NOT a great fighter; all she did in Sulong during WCI was rip some ships apart, and in case you didn’t notice, Perospero made extremely short work of her AND Wanda a few chapters ago (her last appearance to date) because they’re totally ineffective without seeing the moon, so I reject that premise out of hand. Nami also uses electricity, and according to others of your ilk, we can’t have overlapping powers on the crew (*squints in two swordsmen before Franky whipped one out this arc*). Yamato and every single other character of note in OP is also brave, it’s hilarious to see you use that as somehow specific to the rabbit. “Incredible leaping abilities” doesn’t deserve any further mention than this, just as meaningless as saying “She’s a lookout” because she can see. Yamato also has the curiosity and desire to sail the world, y’all also love using this as a point for Carrot but not the obvious choice. Once again, Yamato’s also Kaido’s daughter so not strictly human AND has a DF transformation of another species. Can’t wait to hear your response to this one, I’m sure you have more reasons that haven’t been run into the ground and routinely disproven!!
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