General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[RecoomeBoom]

I am onboard with Yamato, she has all the requirements but there are some doubts. She knows too much with Oden's journal and she's too strong. In my mind, LZS as the strongest must exist. Despite Jinbei's confusing power level, I still believe in the monster trio. It's been a staple of One Piece in all mediums.

So I'll reserve my judgment until the opponents are matched. If ZS defeats King and Queen, they will have comfortably surpassed Jinbei and Yamato by the end of the arc. Then Yamato is a done deal.

 

[Visa]

Yamato's dreams are like Oden's (so far). To open Wano's borders just as the guy she's imitating stated and what literally all his retainers are doing. As I said, she would need to have another goal not related to that to be considered a nakama candidate.

Wait a couple chapters. Y'all on the hype train already.

 

[Albino 👑]

Only thing that can make yamato better is if she ate a logia and actually had melamin

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

Some food for thaughts if the alliance defeats Kaido (and BM) and opens Wano will Yamato still be the "Oden Persona" or start to be Yamato, which would be more interessting to see how Yamato starts to be herself, be her owen character and not to imitate some elses. Just to see how she grows as a character, from a child who is playing pretend (cosplaing Oden) to a grown woman who knows who she is and be her owen character.

Would be nice to see how she grows as character on her owen on the adventures she goes IF she joins the Straw Hats.

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Only thing that can make yamato better is if she ate a logia and actually had melamin

Yuki Yuki no Mi would be cool () or a new Logia like earth or something like that.

 

[Awaken Fruit]

Oden didn't start his own crew. He needed someone to take him to sea because he knew nothing about it.

Unless, she starts being herself and starts hers or one of the RS will tell her.

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Yamato's dreams are like Oden's (so far). To open Wano's borders just as the guy she's imitating stated and what literally all his retainers are doing. As I said, she would need to have another goal not related to that to be considered a nakama candidate.

Wait a couple chapters. Y'all on the hype train already.

That’s because Red Scarreds are doing as well. Yamato will be the new captain of the Beast Pirates and joins Luffy’s Grand Fleet.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Don't just give, take too. Make them bet the same. There's no point in a one sided bet.

Well, if anyone here has the balls to rise to the challenge, they’ll make themselves known. Even if the only thing I “win” is being right, that’ll be enough...getting to rub it in everyone’s face forever will be a satisfactory reward :cheers:

 

[Walreyn]

Yamato's dreams are like Oden's (so far). To open Wano's borders just as the guy she's imitating stated and what literally all his retainers are doing. As I said, she would need to have another goal not related to that to be considered a nakama candidate.

Wait a couple chapters. Y'all on the hype train already.

He read oden's journal, it wont be that impossible if she also wants to go on to the seas and have a crew to go on an adventure with just like oden

 

[Awaken Fruit]

He read oden's journal, it wont be that impossible if she also wants to go on to the seas and have a crew to go on an adventure with just like oden

She’ll get a crew

 

[Paperchampion23]

She’ll get a crew

All these absolutes about getting her own crew when she can just join Luffy:smithnie:

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I am onboard with Yamato, she has all the requirements but there are some doubts. She knows too much with Oden's journal and she's too strong. In my mind, LZS as the strongest must exist. Despite Jinbei's confusing power level, I still believe in the monster trio. It's been a staple of One Piece in all mediums.

So I'll reserve my judgment until the opponents are matched. If ZS defeats King and Queen, they will have comfortably surpassed Jinbei and Yamato by the end of the arc. Then Yamato is a done deal.

I don't think Odens journal is meant to spoil the last places on GL. What it might do is make Yamato central to finding the "lost" poneglyph or other mysteries to allow Oda to, not necessarily shortcut the adventure, to focus and simplify where they need to go.

The Yonko have been roaming the seas for years in search of Laugh Tale after Lodestar. Laffy and crew definitely won't encounter the same issue. They need a shortcut, and that will possibly involve the journal/Yamato helping them to follow in his footsteps.

 

[Visa]

He read oden's journal, it wont be that impossible if she also wants to go on to the seas and have a crew to go on an adventure with just like oden

Oden heading out to sea was a byproduct of his curiosity of the outside world. He then discovered whatever happened on Raftel/Laugh Tale and what he transcribed the 100 year gap between what happened that caused Wano to close its borders.

Basically the Void Century. That's Robin's territory. Which is why I said if Yamato has no other personal dream outside of imitating Oden and wanting to open Wano's borders, like all of the Red Scabbards, then I don't see it.

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I don't think Odens journal is meant to spoil the last places on GL. What it might do is make Yamato central to finding the "lost" poneglyph or other mysteries to allow Oda to, not necessarily shortcut the adventure, to focus and simplify where they need to go.

The Yonko have been roaming the seas for years in search of Laugh Tale after Lodestar. Laffy and crew definitely won't encounter the same issue. They need a shortcut, and that will possibly involve the journal/Yamato helping them to follow in his footsteps.

Nami's their navigator. All they need is the Road Poneglyphs and they're good. It's been said by Oden himself that one resides on Wano and if theories are correct, there is probably one on Elbaf too. Their journey is cutting close to finishing.

Spoiler

Spoiler: Just like when Crocus informed them regarding navigating the GL

 

[Paperchampion23]

Oden heading out to sea was a byproduct of his curiosity of the outside world. He then discovered whatever happened on Raftel/Laugh Tale and what he transcribed the 100 year gap between what happened that caused Wano to close its borders.

Basically the Void Century. That's Robin's territory. Which is why I said if Yamato has no other personal dream outside of imitating Oden and wanting to open Wano's borders, like all of the Red Scabbards, then I don't see it.

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Nami's their navigator. All they need is the Road Poneglyphs and they're good. It's been said by Oden himself that one resides on Wano and if theories are correct, there is probably one on Elbaf too. Their journey is cutting close to finishing.

Spoiler

Spoiler: Just like when Crocus informed them regarding navigating the GL

Unless opening Wano's ports involves some outside force. They specifically say they need to wait for the "return" of Joy boy in order to open up the ports. If this is the case, then it's just like Jinbe and FI. Jinbe's dream was never absolutely mentioned, but he desires to end persecution of his race and save them. Luffy was foretold to destroy FI. Joy Boy was foretold to "return" and use Noah to save the fish people.


Both Jinbe's and Yamato's dreams would be similar in a way: Resolving an issue of a country in relation to the "return" of Joy Boy. Yamato might just join Luffy to so that she can help the scabbard open Wano (but can't until the "promised time")

 

[Visa]

Unless opening Wano's ports involves some outside force. They specifically say they need to wait for the "return" of Joy boy in order to open up the ports. If this is the case, then it's just like Jinbe and FI. Jinbe's dream was never absolutely mentioned, but he desires to end persecution of his race and save them. Luffy was foretold to destroy FI. Joy Boy was foretold to "return" and use Noah to save the fish people.


Both Jinbe's and Yamato's dreams would be similar in a way: Resolving an issue of a country in relation to the "return" of Joy Boy. Yamato might just join Luffy to so that she can help the scabbard open Wano (but can't until the "promised time")

Don't see how they need to wait for the return of Joy Boy to get the Road Poneglyph. Oden straight up said they have it in Wano. Robin could go and basically use this opportunity to scout for it while she's in Onigashima or potentially post-Wano in Oden's now destroyed castle.

Spoiler: Oden confirming that a Road Poneglph is on Wano.

Also, if anything Jinbe and Pedro's dreams are the same that represent both the freedom of the fishmen race and the Dawn of the World.

Spoiler: The parallels are there

 

[Awaken Fruit]

All these absolutes about getting her own crew when she can just join Luffy:smithnie:

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I don't think Odens journal is meant to spoil the last places on GL. What it might do is make Yamato central to finding the "lost" poneglyph or other mysteries to allow Oda to, not necessarily shortcut the adventure, to focus and simplify where they need to go.

The Yonko have been roaming the seas for years in search of Laugh Tale after Lodestar. Laffy and crew definitely won't encounter the same issue. They need a shortcut, and that will possibly involve the journal/Yamato helping them to follow in his footsteps.

What about the new dawn that she doesn’t know of huh? Besides, what role will she do if she joins?

 

[Afroking]

Her height would be the main thing separating her from Nami.

Don't really agree. The horns is the main thing. Close ups(but not that close ,so we can have less details) won't show the height .Even if she wasn't that tall to begin with ,the horns would make her different to other females instantly.

Although I think she looks more like a blonde Robin than Nami tbh.

Don't see it tbh.
Right now in these two panels she is different than both females. The face structure is different to me..
All clones of Nami for example share the same circular face with the same eyes and eyebrows . Can't say I see it with Yamato . If you can show some Robin examples I'd appreciate it.(I looked some Dressrosa panels and Wano panels and couldn't see it . )

I actually do think a relationship with Ace is a point in her favour. It would mean all the Strawhats understand what Luffy went through at Marineford.

No,I don't think it put them on equal footing..
The SH lived with Luffy through many hardships and knee how he will feel.
Jinbe lived through MF-Amazon lily with him and understood how much Ace meant to him .
Yamato doesn't have that. At best she would have Ace words that Luffy depended on him ,not really concrete ,as living with him..

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Wanting to explore the world isn't a sufficient dream... That's a bad reason to have someone join the crew.Just like being merely adventurous is ..


Look out isn't a job a new recruit can get either . Ussop will be better than them inside the crew and the said character will never be at the cream of the crop at that position. Unless Viola dies and the said character gets her fruit...

 

[Paperchampion23]

Don't see how they need to wait for the return of Joy Boy to get the Road Poneglyph. Oden straight up said they have it in Wano. Robin could go and basically use this opportunity to scout for it while she's in Onigashima or potentially post-Wano in Oden's now destroyed castle.

Spoiler: Oden confirming that a Road Poneglph is on Wano.

Also, if anything Jinbe and Pedro's dreams are the same that represent both the freedom of the fishmen race and the Dawn of the World.

Spoiler: The parallels are there

Not what I said, I'm saying that Yamato may help Luffy, just like Jinbe will help Luffy, to help their countries. If he's "Joy Boy", then that's pure motivation right there. If Yamato feels the same and opening Wanos borders requires some massive change during the final war (not Just taking out Kaido), then she could join them for this reason

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What about the new dawn that she doesn’t know of huh? Besides, what role will she do if she joins?

I don't understand your first sentence and cabin boy

 

[Awaken Fruit]

The new dawn that the minks are waiting for and cabin boy is stupid for her.

 

[Visa]

Not what I said, I'm saying that Yamato may help Luffy, just like Jinbe will help Luffy, to help their countries. If he's "Joy Boy", then that's pure motivation right there. If Yamato feels the same and opening Wanos borders requires some massive change during the final war (not Just taking out Kaido), then she could join them for this reason

Here's the thing. Going outside their country doesn't guarantee that they will open Wano's borders. If anything, Oden to his dying moments implied that they would do it internally within the country. That's what has been entrusted to his retainers. Nowhere did he say, up to his last moments, they need to leave Wano to do so. If that was the case, his other vassals would have done so already.

Spoiler: This is what was recorded in Oden's journal. The one Yamato treats as her "bible".

His goal is to free this nation and be open to the outside world, not letting it be secluded. Likewise, he said in his final moments that they are waiting for someone. Which is probably what Yamato was inquiring and overheard, which probably led to her inheriting Oden's dream and probably deduced that that figure they need to lend aid to may be Luffy.

Spoiler

She's doing it in the Scabbard's place because she assumes they're all dead.

Meanwhile, Pedro told her that Carrot would know the true importance of what is important regarding why the Straw Hat Crew should survive and continue their adventure, telling her to press forward.

Spoiler: Keep moving forward.

It honestly feels like opening Wano's borders is just a prelude of what is to come.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Here's the thing. Going outside their country doesn't guarantee that they will open Wano's borders. If anything, Oden to his dying moments implied that they would do it internally within the country. That's what has been entrusted to his retainers. Nowhere did he say, up to his last moments, they need to leave Wano to do so. If that was the case, his other vassals would have done so already.

Spoiler: This is what was recorded in Oden's journal. The one Yamato treats as her "bible".

His goal is to free this nation and be open to the outside world, not letting it be secluded. Likewise, he said in his final moments that they are waiting for someone. Which is probably what Yamato was inquiring and overheard, which probably led to her inheriting Oden's dream and probably deduced that that figure they need to lend aid to may be Luffy.

Spoiler

She's doing it in the Scabbard's place because she assumes they're all dead.

Meanwhile, Pedro told her that Carrot would know the true importance of what is important regarding why the Straw Hat Crew should survive and continue their adventure, telling her to press forward.

Spoiler: Keep moving forward.

It honestly feels like opening Wano's borders is just a prelude of what is to come.

I think we are agreeing here somewhar. Point in case is that we barely know anything about Yamato anyway. It could be just Jinbe, Jinbe and Carrot, Jinbe and Yamato or all 3. We need to know more but pretty much the running theme of all 3 characters is that they all probably believe Luffy is the key to some endgame with the OP world (Jinbe has stated that he will change the world, Pedro told Carrot he will bring the Dawn, and Yamato may realize Luffy is key to opening Wano beyond defeating Kaido).

Its part of the reason why all 3 are probably joining by the end of the arc. This has been building for 400 chapters and we are nearing the "final" phase of the Manga (though that may take another 10 years to finish)

 

[Visa]

I think we are agreeing here somewhar. Point in case is that we barely know anything about Yamato anyway. It could be just Jinbe, Jinbe and Carrot, Jinbe and Yamato or all 3. We need to know more but pretty much the running theme of all 3 characters is that they all probably believe Luffy is the key to some endgame with the OP world (Jinbe has stated that he will change the world, Pedro told Carrot he will bring the Dawn, and Yamato may realize Luffy is key to opening Wano beyond defeating Kaido).

Its part of the reason why all 3 are probably joining by the end of the arc. This has been building for 400 chapters and we are nearing the "final" phase of the Manga (though that may take another 10 years to finish)

The thing is that based on Oden's entries that Yamato possesses, what occurs beyond Wano is never implied. The goal has always been to open their borders. They're a secluded land that is ignorant of the outside world, disguised as to keep peace to the country when its merely an illusion of safety conspired by the Kozuki Clan. All Yamato has based off her reasoning so far as much as we know is that she overheard what Oden said to his retainers at his execution and the scriptures her wrote. If there was anything beyond that, I'd think we would know.

Spoiler: Examples

EDIT: Also, Toki ripped up the letter by Oden.

Spoiler: The letter

The letter she ripped up threw outside the castle. So unless Yamato has that, then...

So far, unless Yamato was present when Toki mentioned these words, then I think her dream is just redundant....so far....

Spoiler: Toki's last words

That's why I say we wait. At least Pedro had somewhat of an idea that it was his dream and Nekomamushi was apparently aware of this, too.

Spoiler

 

[Kishido]

Seeing Yamato now I think she is unique enough to Nami to have a chance of joining.

She is interesting... Has more connections to Luffy and the story already than other "candidates" and I love her Oden/Kaidou fusion fighting style.

Now it will be interesting to see if she also has a DF... Maybe mythical Zoan Kirin or something