General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Logiko]

Dude please you were researching it 😭😭 also Yamato isn't going to stay in wano as she says multiple times she wants to leave Wano 😭 but I guess that was also a subversion dialogue as well 😰

Can you write your comment on a single post please ?

Yamato never said she wanted to leave wano.

 

[Animangaboy]

Look at his reaction

I read/watched the scene and the only thing he says/react was the Oden something 😭😭 stop lying but Luffy's face expression
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Meaning, they are hunted down regardless

I guess Yamato is also being hunted too 👀

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Can you stop sexualizing Carrot please? You are being very creepy.

speak to your own followers on twitter.
:cheers:

 

[Animangaboy]

Wrong. Robin asked Luffy. Yamato didn't ask. She stated. like it was a done deal.

Let me board your ship and Let me join you 🤔? Looking for the difference between them
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Because she is still thinking on the same lens, thinking that's it's a done deal.

😭😭😭 Okay

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Nop

Yup. Go back wanking on the underaged bunny

 

[IIskandar1997]

"I figured you would take me on your ship" is a subversion dialogue which indicate that Yamato won't join. This is the panel you are looking for. ;)

How many of these subversion theories have been right so far? ZKK? Raid will fail? Kaido awakening? Carrot is the traitor? Tama having the special fruit?

 

[Animangaboy]

Yeah, obviously. That's why it's a subversion.

I wonder why first time in history Oda decided to make a character wanting to join luffy like that not to mention the character was waiting on luffy, sharing a bond with his brother, was the one who make the vivre card, and not to mention the only one who knows Luffy true dream 😭

 

[Peroroncino]

so many pages discussing over 2 characters and yet neither of them will join

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Yamato never said she wanted to leave wano.

 

[Animangaboy]

Can you write your comment on a single post please ?

Yamato never said she wanted to leave wano.

Dudes where is Yamato right now?

 

[Logiko]

I read/watched the scene and the only thing he says/react was the Oden something 😭😭 stop lying but Luffy's face expression

That's called "being pissed off"

speak to your own followers on twitter.

Yup. Go back wanking on the underaged bunny

I have already told that I don't like that. So stop using that against me and stop being creepy please ;)

Let me board your ship and Let me join you 🤔? Looking for the difference between them

Yeah, look at the difference between them.. maybe you will understand. Or not... i guess.

I wonder why first time in history Oda decided to make a character wanting to luffy like that not to mention the character was waiting on luffy, sharing a bond with his brother, was the one who make the vivre card, and not to mention the only one who knows Luffy true dream

THink a bit, maybe you might understand.. or not.. I guess.

How many of these subversion theories have been right so far? ZKK? Raid will fail? Kaido awakening? Carrot is the traitor? Tama having the special fruit?

Those were bad theories to being with.
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Dudes where is Yamato right now?

Can you write your comment on a single post please ?

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

any high intellectual being can tell that “want to SAIL OUT TO SEA” = leaving. Unless you don’t understand human language, or at least english
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stop being creepy

are you self reflecting here?

 

[Staticshadic]

What I think carrot4nakama referring is this

http://imgur.com/a/Y0bpcbQ

The problem that is Carrot was not a liberator alongside the sun pirates like jimbei was. Nor did she face any form discrimination or force into slavery. She was never outcast herself as a character.

what about ogres carrot4nakama., Thery were left out in oden flashback, there were most likely hunted and big mom territory does not seem have them . We do not know of much them. According Kaido when attacking Yamato he doesn't believe they should be friends with humans. I wonder why that is hmm.

http://imgur.com/a/MBv8a8i

 

[IIskandar1997]

Those were bad theories to being with.

And this one is different because?

 

[Peenix]

Bad take, Bartho and Cavendish are not background character, they served a bigger purpose: being captains of the strawhat grandfleet, and bonded to come back later.

I never said that they were background characters. Only that they didn’t need to become main characters to justify their presence

Wrong. When those character are indeed important for the story, their mythos is not that deep and their characterization rather flat.

Carrot on the other hand has a subtle characterization, multiple type of interactions, a lot of symbolims and a transformation. The treatment of carrot is on a completely other level.

Carrot legitimately has less characterization and ‘mythos’ than either of them. They were both set up to be antagonists, only for them to do a complete 180 and become major allies. They’re the most memorable Grand Fleet leaders for a reason.

Yes she do, but I guess you need to be an author to understand that.

I am an author (mostly just as a hobby but still) and it’s perfectly common to introduce a character just to make things more interesting. By Oda’s own admission that’s why he came up with the supernova. Not everyone’s gonna become a main character

I talked about Chopper and Luffy.

Yup but I talked about Chopper and Luffy. Read again.

You’re ignoring what I said about Carrot having gags with Chopper

 

[Logiko]

any high intellectual being can tell that “want to SAIL OUT TO SEA” = leaving. Unless you don’t understand human language, or at least english

Desire = Wanting to go out to see
Goal = Leave Free like Oden

Desire =/= goal

Goal = Set
Desire = Can change

are you self reflecting here?

Just stop being creepy or I will report you again.

The problem that is Carrot was not a liberate alongside the sun pirates like jimbei was. Nor did she face any form discrimination or force into slavery. She was never outcast herself as a character.

That's why I'm talking only about a symbolical prison, not a real one. Carrot doesn't know that she is trapped, but we do. It's dramatic irony.

what about ogres carrot4nakama., Thery were left out oden flashback, there were most likley hunted and big mom territory does not seem have them . We do not know of much them. According Kaido when attacking Yamato he doesn't believe they should be friends with humans. I wonder why that is hmm.

Where do you see a bounty on ogres ?

I wonder why that is hmm.

Funny, there is a subversion dialogue in here too.

And this one is different because?

BEcause it rests on actual narrative basis.

 

[Animangaboy]

that's called "being pissed off"

At what exactly the can't be the oden thing Or not joining my crew? 🤔

 

[IIskandar1997]

BEcause it rests on actual narrative basis.

ZKK and Raid will fail also do

 

[Animangaboy]

Yeah, look at the difference between them.. maybe you will understand. Or not... i guess.

I forgot that is how Oden ask Whitebeard to join his crew too 😰

 

[Logiko]

I never said that they were background characters. Only that they didn’t need to become main characters to justify their presence

And i'm not about becoming a main character, I'm mentionning the necessity to have a strong purpose. Strong purpose =/= being a main character.

Carrot legitimately has less characterization and ‘mythos’ than either of them. They were both set up to be antagonists, only for them to do a complete 180 and become major allies. They’re the most memorable Grand Fleet leaders for a reason.

No. In her design, in her characterization, in her interaction and her tretment, Carrot has a stronger relevance in the story that them. There is a reason that Carrot made it to the top 8 and it's not because she is a furry.

I am an author (mostly just as a hobby but still) and it’s perfectly common to introduce a character just to make things more interesting.

That's called bad writing. Everything must have a purpose in a story.

Oda’s own admission that’s why he came up with the supernova. Not everyone’s gonna become a main character

Still.. every member has a purpose in the story.

You’re ignoring what I said about Carrot having gags with Chopper

Yup, because I was talking about something else
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ZKK and Raid will fail also do

The raid failing was not a bad theory. It had actual narrative basis.
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I forgot that is how Oden ask Whitebeard to join his crew too

No it's not.