Powers & Abilities Oda did a deservice to have Sanji and Zoro jump mutiple tiers.

#81
They were legit weaker than Doflamingo in dressrosa. Nomatter where you want to put Doflamingo cracker showed the ability to cut g4 which Doflamingo couldn't do. Over the past 5 or 6 years Oda could have given the two multiple fights with strong people to slowly level them up.

Is this consistent with growth preskip or is this poorly done.
Oda literally user Fujitora to protect Doffy from Zoro, and Fujitora could barely protect himself from Zori
 
#82
No, you’re just on the wrong website. This forum is primarily a power scaling forum. The power system in one piece could definitely be much better than it is but the fact of the matter is that it’s a shounen and at the end of the day, action is vitally important to its success. It’s a big part of what some people enjoy about it and keeps some existing fans reading.
For me, OP has Action/fights 90%, adventure aspect 10%. OP community is so hypocrite.
When someone talk about fights, they say it is adventure manga. When someone say where is adventure, they say it is more focused on world building. When it comes to world building, we get smiles with human faces on animal butts. Sooo amazing.
 
#83
That's just an artistic decision. Zoro has no COC coating. The only use of coc in combat that we know of is hitting opponents without touching them. For fuck sakes Don Chin had black lightning.
He does coat his swords with CoC IIRC, he imbues them and a lightning pattern is displayed.
 
#84
Zoro got his body broken by the strongest attack in the series so far
A combined yonko attack. And even that didn't stop him. He got back and even with a broken body pre power up he scarred hybrid kaido

Luffy is fighting kaido after getting the same power up zoro did.

Sanji is fodder to zoro and zoro > law
Like I said he was up against two Yonkou with the rest of the team and is now half dead. He literally only hurt Kaidou once. 😭 he tried to cut kaidous neck and it did no damage. His strongest attack didn't even knock Kaidou off his feet. So apparently asura is weaker than Luffys ryou. Regardless Zoro got much stronger out of nowhere. He's had like 2 fights since losing to the yetis.
 
#85
For me, OP has Action/fights 90%, adventure aspect 10%. OP community is so hypocrite.
When someone talk about fights, they say it is adventure manga. When someone say where is adventure, they say it is more focused on world building. When it comes to world building, we get smiles with human faces on animal butts. Sooo amazing.
There are communities though that focus on the non action aspects of the series and they’re generally a bit less toxic than somewhere like here but I can see how a website like this would give people that perception of the fan base. It is true to some extent too. For me personally, the action comes second to the story most of the time but they need to not conflict with each other.
 
#87
Like I said he was up against two Yonkou with the rest of the team and is now half dead. He literally only hurt Kaidou once. 😭 he tried to cut kaidous neck and it did no damage. His strongest attack didn't even knock Kaidou off his feet. So apparently asura is weaker than Luffys ryou. Regardless Zoro got much stronger out of nowhere. He's had like 2 fights since losing to the yetis.
What are you even saying… Zoro SCARRED Kaido while Luffy said his punches were too shallow. It’s arguably still the most amount of damage Kaido has taken from a single attack so far in the entire raid.
 
#88
He does coat his swords with CoC IIRC, he imbues them and a lightning pattern is displayed.
People have never in the past 4 or 5 years called the lightning coc coating that literally started the se ond Zoro started using it. It's just Zoro fans compensating for Like 3 or 4 people in the crew being stronger than him.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#90
Maybe, just maybe that's because your powerscaling is wrong?

"Cracker could cut G4 but Doflamingo couldn't therefore he is weaker than Cracker" - Kinemon could hurt Kaido but Act 1 Luffy couldn't so Kinemon > Act 1 Boundman? Fuck no. And even your premise is wrong, when Luffy was unconscious for 3 days after fighting Doflamingo, surely he did atleast some damage.

The only character with a wide jump in power was Sanji when he got multiple little powerups in the form of the Exoskeleton and Ifrit Jambe in Onigashima. Zoro's powerups were pretty consistent for the most part, it's just that he arrived out of the timeskip closer to Luffy than Sanji - which some of y'all refuse to accept.
 
#91
They were legit weaker than Doflamingo in dressrosa. Nomatter where you want to put Doflamingo cracker showed the ability to cut g4 which Doflamingo couldn't do. Over the past 5 or 6 years Oda could have given the two multiple fights with strong people to slowly level them up.

Is this consistent with growth preskip or is this poorly done.
Sanji was weaker than Doflamingo yes, Zoro however.... Its a bit Ambiguous, Sure he could have been but Honestly its probably extreme Diff for Dofalmingo to beat Zoro at Dressrosa.
 
#92
People have never in the past 4 or 5 years called the lightning coc coating that literally started the se ond Zoro started using it. It's just Zoro fans compensating for Like 3 or 4 people in the crew being stronger than him.
There's nothing to call, it's just the pattern being displayed in the series.

Every CoC attack that is not for fainting involves lightning from what I recall. It's not mutually exclusive but the point is that he definitely used CoC, just not in the coating sense, but the imbuing one.
 
#94
Maybe, just maybe that's because your powerscaling is wrong?

"Cracker could cut G4 but Doflamingo couldn't therefore he is weaker than Cracker" - Kinemon could hurt Kaido but Act 1 Luffy couldn't so Kinemon > Act 1 Boundman? Fuck no. And even your premise is wrong, when Luffy was unconscious for 3 days after fighting Doflamingo, surely he did atleast some damage.

The only character with a wide jump in power was Sanji when he got multiple little powerups in the form of the Exoskeleton and Ifrit Jambe in Onigashima. Zoro's powerups were pretty consistent for the most part, it's just that he arrived out of the timeskip closer to Luffy than Sanji - which some of y'all refuse to accept.
Sanji had already fought enough two Yonkous before Wano. Zoro hasn't had a decent fight in like 5 years. The last decade he's fought enough a octopus 🐙, pica and got defeated by fodder yeti cool. It's just been bad powers along. He went from losing to complete fodder to beating king. It's sad.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#95
Like I said he was up against two Yonkou with the rest of the team and is now half dead. He literally only hurt Kaidou once. 😭 he tried to cut kaidous neck and it did no damage. His strongest attack didn't even knock Kaidou off his feet. So apparently asura is weaker than Luffys ryou. Regardless Zoro got much stronger out of nowhere. He's had like 2 fights since losing to the yetis.
Yes because once again he ALONE blocked the strongest attack in the series so far
Something none of the other 4 luffy included could do.

He used no haki for that.

His second attack a yonko screamed at another yonko to dodge it
And thats just zoros coa
Pre acoc zoro made a yonko scream at another yonko to dodge

Then he saved luffy again and cut kaido with tatsumaki

Knocking kaido down is irrelevant
Scabbards did that and kaido said they don't have enough power to open an old wound let alone make a new one like zoro did
And zoro did that pre power up with a broken body
 
#96
There's nothing to call, it's just the pattern being displayed in the series.

Every CoC attack that is not for fainting involves lightning from what I recall. It's not mutually exclusive but the point is that he definitely used CoC, just not in the coating sense, but the imbuing one.
It's not using coc. It has no use and it doesn't make your attacks stronger.
Congratulations zoro is as strong as old rust Don chinajo. That's all it is.
 
#98
Yes because once again he ALONE blocked the strongest attack in the series so far
Something none of the other 4 luffy included could do.

He used no haki for that.

His second attack a yonko screamed at another yonko to dodge it
And thats just zoros coa
Pre acoc zoro made a yonko scream at another yonko to dodge

Then he saved luffy again and cut kaido with tatsumaki

Knocking kaido down is irrelevant
Scabbards did that and kaido said they don't have enough power to open an old wound let alone make a new one like zoro did
And zoro did that pre power up with a broken body
Did you say he blocked it. Lol this homosexual fantasy you guys have of Zoro is interesting. He survived it just like everyone else and Law pulled him out before it killed him.
 
#99
Sanji had already fought enough two Yonkous before Wano. Zoro hasn't had a decent fight in like 5 years. The last decade he's fought enough a octopus 🐙, pica and got defeated by fodder yeti cool. It's just been bad powers along. He went from losing to complete fodder to beating king. It's sad.
Enma (+Enma training) is just that damn powerful, took Zoro from a nerfed killer level character to stronger than a (plot nerfed) King level character.
 
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