Future Events On Zoro vs Shiryu
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Zoro doesn't need to use KoH mode to use advanced conquerors though.
It's just a mode. Like how Luffy can choose not to use G4/G5, Zoro can choose not to use KoH.
So I don't see how Shiryuu can "outlast".
I don't see Shiryuu even trading blows with base advanced conquerors haki though, let alone KoH
He can maybe block or exchange blows against advanced armament Zoro though
It's just a mode. Like how Luffy can choose not to use G4/G5, Zoro can choose not to use KoH.
So I don't see how Shiryuu can "outlast".
I don't see Shiryuu even trading blows with base advanced conquerors haki though, let alone KoH
He can maybe block or exchange blows against advanced armament Zoro though
I know him having conquerors and koh are 2 different abilities
It still has a time limit. Like yeah luffy could've technically gone in and out of g4 against doffy and not exhaust himself as much but by anime logic that usually doesn’t happen. Especially if you’re pushed into using that form you’re probably gonna stay in it as long as possible to win. Like luffy has usually done with g4
You underestimate shiryu
He should at the very least be overall comparable to beckman and shiryu when they fight.
Side not but I think beckman might also end up having conquerors coating
It still has a time limit. Like yeah luffy could've technically gone in and out of g4 against doffy and not exhaust himself as much but by anime logic that usually doesn’t happen. Especially if you’re pushed into using that form you’re probably gonna stay in it as long as possible to win. Like luffy has usually done with g4
You underestimate shiryu
He should at the very least be overall comparable to beckman and shiryu when they fight.
Side not but I think beckman might also end up having conquerors coating
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Makes sense.
Zoan pirates: kaido
Paramecia pirates: big mom
Various DFs: blackbeard
Haki pirates: shanks
Logia opponents: admirals.
All of that mixed: WG/gorosei arc.
Yeah Morgans can hurt BM
Pre ts Luffy can hurt BM
Since they could hurt and make Garp bleed easily
Zoro awoke CoC because of Enma, to tame it and not because of King!
While he would get CoO upgrade because of Shiryu
Daily reminder : Luffy can low diff Zoro
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Magellan was harmed by gear 2 pre haki luffy and shiryu still managed to lose to this guy...
Zoan pirates: kaido
Paramecia pirates: big mom
Various DFs: blackbeard
Haki pirates: shanks
Logia opponents: admirals.
All of that mixed: WG/gorosei arc.
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Yeah Morgans can hurt BMPre ts Luffy can hurt BM
Since they could hurt and make Garp bleed easily
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Zoro awoke CoC because of Enma, to tame it and not because of King!
While he would get CoO upgrade because of Shiryu
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Daily reminder : Luffy can low diff Zoro
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Janitor doing a squardo doesn't make him impressive, and if someone try to hype his attack power remember garp got cleaved by hand axe morgan so the only thing u cannot hype about garp is his durability, btw to the illiterates in this thread he was called iron garp to reference mike tyson not his durability 
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Shiryuu shouldn't be able to force Zoro to use KoH. It probably will be a Pica 2.0 scenario where Zoro clowns around before taking out Shiryuu.
Zoro's problems won't be attack power here, it would be moreso related to landing hits on him.
You think Beckman is getting clowned on by Garp, given his portrayal? I don't think so. Someone who is hyped with sun/moon portrayal, vice captain etc isn't getting low diff by a top tier
Zoro's problems won't be attack power here, it would be moreso related to landing hits on him.
You think Beckman is getting clowned on by Garp, given his portrayal? I don't think so. Someone who is hyped with sun/moon portrayal, vice captain etc isn't getting low diff by a top tier
Yeah I don’t mind shiryu not having ap to match and counter koh. If he does it’d be dope but I don’t expect it. Plus there are other ways to counter characters with better ap like we’ve seen multiple times in different scenarios
You underestimate shiryu if you don’t think he can at least push zoro to using koh, asura, and/or conquerors. Shiryu in no way going to be an easy fight
Yeah
Garp was able to clown Kuzan at times even tho he’s weaker. Neither of them are admiral level or top tires in general
You underestimate shiryu if you don’t think he can at least push zoro to using koh, asura, and/or conquerors. Shiryu in no way going to be an easy fight
Yeah
Garp was able to clown Kuzan at times even tho he’s weaker. Neither of them are admiral level or top tires in general
Haha.., I love how people in this forum goes FLIP FLOP all the time, I remember how the first time Garp showed his Galaxy Impact, the whole forum goes insane!, "he's ridiculously powerful!!, he's definitely the strongest marine!!, he would've killed Akainu easily marineford so on and so forth ", and a week after after realizing the scale of the destruction of the so called galaxy is actually unimpressive.., their pulled it back already, I swear people changing their opinion like a sinus wave 😂😂😂
Relax people, just wait until Oda shows you how broken the Suke Suke no mi awakening actually is, it's gonna be WILD..!!!
Relax people, just wait until Oda shows you how broken the Suke Suke no mi awakening actually is, it's gonna be WILD..!!!
"Koh " is only time limited because zoro drew out all his haki to keep his blade in check at that point in time
but the core part of the ability which is what I really should have said , that is coating his attacks in conquerors , is not. its not like gear 4 because no matter what luffy does , it will always have a hard time limit.
using enma will not always have a time limit . he will learn how to use the blade just like oden did.
its a simple matter of experience.
sidenote though been thinking zoro's next fight ideally should be a top tier but taking into consideration luffy's fights are in many ways not ones that cement him significantly above his opponents
while zoro and sanji's are , then the progression to shiryu/lafitte makes sense.
but the core part of the ability which is what I really should have said , that is coating his attacks in conquerors , is not. its not like gear 4 because no matter what luffy does , it will always have a hard time limit.
using enma will not always have a time limit . he will learn how to use the blade just like oden did.
its a simple matter of experience.
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sidenote though been thinking zoro's next fight ideally should be a top tier but taking into consideration luffy's fights are in many ways not ones that cement him significantly above his opponents
while zoro and sanji's are , then the progression to shiryu/lafitte makes sense.
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1. How was Zoro fight an Asspull when Zoro was literally training with Enma before this point and showed hints of CoC since forever. Your a clown.
2. I don't see Admirals with ACoC and they are stronger than Yamato
3. Shiryu can definitely hold back Kaido who is also holding back and didn't use his drunk forms or advance Baguas or Flaming dragon form
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Yes Beckman would get punch by Garp. Just like Akoji got punch by Garp. Who do yall thonk this guy BB is. He going to get his ass beat by BB pirates
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Zoro Is overrated, that's the difference.
He's overrated for the hakai thing which people fail to understand the Dynamic of It, Zoro Just suppressed the Blow for 1 second before being teleported, he didn't took the full output of the attack.
Zoro would get smashed to the ground by Garp just like the shrimp of Impel down.
Oda made It clear by making Greenbull walking diff King's enemy alongside his rival Queen.
He's overrated for the hakai thing which people fail to understand the Dynamic of It, Zoro Just suppressed the Blow for 1 second before being teleported, he didn't took the full output of the attack.
Zoro would get smashed to the ground by Garp just like the shrimp of Impel down.
Oda made It clear by making Greenbull walking diff King's enemy alongside his rival Queen.
He did take it you clown and you can't show where he was teleported. Thats your headcanon you made up. Law said he took the attack and saved all them guys. Greenbull took advantage of King and queen being weaken from a whole war you clown. Also Zoro stronger than King and 3 shotted him so who cares what he did to injured King
Shiryuu doesn't has a code of honor, him is a back stab shark, him will use evil scheme to damage Zoro, something like Attacking Robin or some shit like this.
Vista>Shiryuu in feats and portrayal.
Zoro still overrated.
Zoro with Kaku help and with knowledge can't bypass S-hawk
Vista>Shiryuu in feats and portrayal.
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Zoro still overrated.
Zoro with Kaku help and with knowledge can't bypass S-hawk
CoO users not sensing things they should be able to sense has happened ACROSS all of the story… CoO users simply do not have CoO active 24/7 unless they are katakuri
No CoO user in the story has ever said “I’m using CoO and failing to sense this person”
You assume they are using CoO when it’s Oda’s regular PiS
No CoO user in the story has ever said “I’m using CoO and failing to sense this person”
You assume they are using CoO when it’s Oda’s regular PiS
