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You can't make a ranking of people who were killed due to the plot, and not take into account their prime potential. If Oden was still alive today he would be at the very least >= current kaido.
Kaido did not use his hybrid (or potential awakened unless the dragon mode itself is the awakening) forms that he will undoubtedly use , so no I don't think Oden would be stronger than current Kaido.
 
Does kaido even have a hybrid form?
it doesn't look like any of the mythical zoans have displayed their hybrids so far
Also kaido in hybrid would be so OP
Still would be cool to see it though
We still don't understand shit about Kaido's DF : Does he has an hybrid form? Or 100 forms and no hybrid? or 100 forms with hybrid? Or nothing else beside base form and dragon fish form?
 
Kaido did not use his hybrid (or potential awakened unless the dragon mode itself is the awakening) forms that he will undoubtedly use , so no I don't think Oden would be stronger than current Kaido.
May be he has nothing else to show beside base and dragon fish form, as i said in my last message, his DF is very odd.
If Oda wanted to show us a superior Kaido over Oden in their fight, he wouldn't have shown only Oden beating his ass in dragon form,and then Kaido winning due to a trick, but rather showing how overpowered were his others forms.
 
I didn't say bounty = strength.

Besides, let's grant that. Then how on earth did you determine who as YC1 or YC2 or YC3. I mean, you already said "King" was background. So what determines strength? Is it calling someone Big Brother? Or what? How did you get theseYC ratings,

In addition? Oven is 300 and Tamago is 429...yeah? And so? Your point is? 300 is the top-tier bounty point. From 300m+n you;re high tier in the OP world. Jinbei says it in Fishman Island post timeskip.
Oven is much stronger than Tamago but Tamago has higher bounty.Bounties are the sum of factors such as activity, power, captain influence, threat.Not only power.
 
You can't make a ranking of people who were killed due to the plot, and not take into account their prime potential. If Oden was still alive today he would be at the very least >= current kaido.
And he wasn't One shot,since he felt like nothing in the next panel, it's just his nature to go fight every oponent like that, and when you go like that you have to confront their attacks and understand it after. Exactly like what luffy does : He always attack without thinking, and get hurts even by fodder or non top tier for a few minutes - last case was vs Apoo and Zorro had to save him.
And that was not the Oden who fought vs Kaido, Oden was weaker there, let alone prime Oden - he never reached his prime due to plot and Oda;
So does that mean that Zoro defeated the 4th strongest underling of doflamingo and needed help to do it?

The crew went Vergo > Rosinate > Trebol > Pica > Diamante

Anyway Oden is dead homie, his corpse isn't doing anything, you're lucky I'm including him at all. Also since your post is essentially just saying kaidou isn't shit, the point is that kaidou got stronger. Also you could argue that SHiki, Captain John, Silver Axe, etc could have gotten stronger if they weren't
1) Removed of their legs + had a steering wheel of a ship in his head
2) Dead

Also prime big mom is arguably stronger than current big mom tbh, she was the type who was born strong and the old age and brain damage probably slows her down, so I'd still say the power scale stays the same.

Oden can hang with Roger/Whitebeard when they aren't going all out, but once they go all out with their advanced probably haoshoku is what it was, he's a child. Shiki and the others can hang with serious Roger and Whitebeard, albeit still lose, but rival their power.

That was the strongest Oden was.

Honestly Oden was a retired pirate who was going to coast in wano and was on the pirate kings ship. Kaidou kept being a pirate, so realistically, Oden was probably only going to be nerfed like rayleigh was due to inactivity, not bolstered like kaidou who kept big dicking his way through life.
 
Does kaido even have a hybrid form?
it doesn't look like any of the mythical zoans have displayed their hybrids so far
Also kaido in hybrid would be so OP
Still would be cool to see it though
The allure of "this isn't even my final form" is too much for Oda to resist, Kaido needs a trump card to pull out after Luffy pulls out his new trump card. Oda is not going to waste this on a non main fight.
Oda has saved all of his Yonko Commander Hybrids for their main fights also.
 
I'd struggle to put Oden above Rayleigh, he didn't seem to have internal destruction Ryuo.
Wait, are you claiming that Oden didn't have Ryuou? What Roger used against Oden wasn't ryuou, it was likely advanced haoshoku, which is whta whitebeard and roger clashed with right after. Roger objectively had ryuou, rayleigh literally probably learned ryuou because of oden, it's a hallmark of wano, it's more a technique than a power level or something, and if people like the yakuza boss have it, oden objectively had it.
 

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Does kaido even have a hybrid form?
it doesn't look like any of the mythical zoans have displayed their hybrids so far
Also kaido in hybrid would be so OP
Still would be cool to see it though
Yeah he definitely should. It was not 100% confirmed but since he is a yonko we expect him to have that out of all zoan users.

I would be disappointed otherwise too.
 
The allure of "this isn't even my final form" is too much for Oda to resist, Kaido needs a trump card to pull out after Luffy pulls out his new trump card. Oda is not going to waste this on a non main fight.
Oda has saved all of his Yonko Commander Hybrids for their main fights also.
Not only will he had a hybrid form (which is obvious, all zoans do), he's going to have an awakened form as well, he's literally the strongest zoan in series, if he doesn't have awakened zoan after having his devil fruit for like 40+ years at least, then that's kind of a joke.

Maybe Kaidou is already in hybrid form though and that's what the horns are lol. But yeah, he will objectively have awakened.

Inb4 base Kaidou is much slimmer.
 
Somehow, Oden looks like luffy a lot, and Ray don't look like Zoro at all, he is fairly intelligent and sentient, Zoro looks dumb without the audacity of Luffy/Oden.
On the surface level Oden seemed like a monstrous freak, but then he met Roger lol. Still respectable, but half of the Oden build up hype was there to hype WB/Roger and show Oden as a big fish in a small pond.
 
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