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This is Oda protecting Zoro and his fans at his best.
Zoro is basically being just a usefull support but you can use the excuse he is not going all out.
Imagine Zoro doing his best, as Law and Kid, use Ashura and still being as effective as them (= useless compared to Luffy).
There would be an uproar.
I'm certain he will go all out only after he will be able to use Enma properly and wound Kaido.
That's the only way to protect him :kayneshrug:

Don't get me wrong, Zoro is doing perfectly fine in front of two emperors but it's far from being as impressive or more impressive than Law and Kid, let alone Luffy.
Luffy is galaxies far away.
Lol at the idea that Oda is going out of his way to coddle a particular fanbase in this fight. As if Oda cares what OP fans on WorstGen and Reddit think about Zoro.

Oda is simply holding back Zoro's strongest attacks for later on in the fight.

I think Zoro has been more impressive than Kidd/Law/Killer because in addition to attacking Kaido twice (his second attack seems to have been impactful), Zoro has also neutralised 3 of Big Mom/Kaido's attacks.
 
Why not? Zoro seemingly has an ultimate finisher in East blue that he takes 400 chapters to ever use again. In between he even gets another power up via Ashura so it really seems like that Ultimate finisher from East blue no longer exists.

So we last saw Ashura 500 chapters ago and in between Zoro has even been getting stronger using his Enma training so it seems like we no longer need Ashura.

Well, let’s wait and see. Btw, I’m in the camp that if Zoro doesn’t use Ashura in Wano, then he will never use it. But I believe this is true not because of weird shit like “Oda doesn’t like the design” hehehe..: It’s just because Oda can’t explain it. He wrote a power up he couldn’t explain so he scrapped it
 
Ofc they can not tank it easily as the beast Kaido,my point was more about people who could tank it. With means they wouldn't get one shotet by that attack.

As example I think Big mom(easily) and the Calamity can tank GK too. And people with strong CoA too like Katakuri and other commanders,Admirals ofc and top tiers too.

If you have either a strong CoA or strong Durability,you can tank GK and it don't one shot you.

Just imagine this, what if GF didn't put not much damage on Kaido? It would mean every adv haki attack of the Scabbards would be prove to have better Ap and lethal in their attack. Since GK should regular ignore durability but it seems like it can't while adv haki can.

It would show that even the Scabbards to attacks beeing above Law's GK. At this point I believe Law has now stronger moves and became even stronger. Otherqisehis feats would be worse then each Scabbard lol.
People were sleeping on the scabbards they are strong thats why I believe Denjiro is beating Mingo meanwhile Ashura and base dukes are on par with him wouldn't be surprised if Kawamatsu and Izo are on par with Law and stronger than most of the supernova
 

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
I'm still sure that Kidd has the second position on the rooftop.
You're sure that Kidd has been the second best performer? Based on Kaido's reactions, Law did more damage in Chapter 1001 and saved Luffy as well. I don't think Kidd has ever been the best performer, people just expect that of him. So far, it hasn't borne fruit.


You're assuming that this is his finisher but doesn't look like it to me. 'Slam Gibson' is just a variant of Punk Vice, nothing elaborated imo.
We don't know that Punk Vise isn't itself a higher tier attack from Kidd. Given how it was paralleled with Luffy's Boundman and that Law went as far as Gamma Knife, I think it being a high tier attack from Kidd is a fair assumption (his fellow Supernova have been using high tier attacks).
 
context on what happened would be a start... An GK doesn’t have a time limit to kill someone, it main functions just destroying organs. We have Yonko walking around missing half there head, hardly proof the attack can’t prove fatal in the long run.
U made the bold up randomly. The affects obviously would vary depending on a lot of circumstances. But death from bleeding out not a slow process. In particular Kaido current size could be weakening its effectiveness. Also no indication he hasn’t or won’t go thro something yet...

Dumbass just say u were wrong. Like for fuck sake... Doffy clearly about to attack law in that panel, he’s not laid out, until luffy knocks him down. Not need to keep lying about something that I can post scan to disprove.
:giogio:

Still no explanation on why GK secondary effects can’t come it to play I see.... Only thing clear is some people can’t or won’t read.

law expected doffy to die almost shortly after the attack landed


gk secondary effects implying a slow death due to damaged organs
yet law doesnt even expect doffy to be standing right after
his reaction says it all
seems like you know about the after effects more than law does cause law certainly considers it a failure even tho he literally just landed the attack 3 pages before this one.

"Dumbass just say u were wrong. "
lol. unfortunately I am not in any mood to hurl insults back with randos .
you were doing great till you got here
respond like an adult and not a crybaby and I will take you seriously .
I have little reason to continue a debate with anyone overly emotional
quote me again when you can come up with a post without the personal garbage.
 
You're sure that Kidd has been the second best performer? Based on Kaido's reactions, Law did more damage in Chapter 1001 and saved Luffy as well. I don't think Kidd has ever been the best performer, people just expect that of him. So far, it hasn't borne fruit.



We don't know that Punk Vise isn't itself a higher tier attack from Kidd. Given how it was paralleled with Luffy's Boundman and that Law went as far as Gamma Knife, I think it being a high tier attack from Kidd is a fair assumption (his fellow Supernova have been using high tier attacks).
- I'm not sure that Kidd has been the second best performer in this chapter, I'm sure that he'll be the second best overall by end of battle.
And I'm waiting for the panels to judge properly this chapter.

- From the name I think is another physical attack, strong af yeah, but not his best. Railguns/Onigashima's giant sword, possible awakening... these are the real deals he could perform during the battle
 

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- I'm not sure that Kidd has been the second best performer in this chapter, I'm sure that he'll be the second best overall by end of battle.
And I'm waiting for the panels to judge properly this chapter.
This is fair enough. I wouldn't expect any different from you.

I posted this on my profile a while back:


I'd like to hear something similar from you:
  • What would make you update towards Kidd being the second best performer by the end of the battle?
  • What would make you update away from Kidd being the second best performer by the end of the battle?
I would be willing to provide my answers to the above questions (after you answer of course) if you're curious. But it's important to know what would actually make you change your mind, or you'll just stubbornly adhere to your preexisting views.


- From the name I think is another physical attack, strong af yeah, but not his best. Railguns/Onigashima's giant sword, possible awakening... these are the real deals he could perform during the battle
Aah, I don't think this is Kidd's King Kong Gun equivalent. A high tier attack like Kong Gatling/Kong Rifle, but not a top tier attack like King Kong Gun, Leo Rex Bazooka, etc.
 

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Stop downplaying dofla :seriously: the guy could have been yanko if he only wanted to
Well he never cared about making sure to increase his power level enough to begin with. He has always been very confident of his potential, only times he showed uncertainty were against Aokiji and expecially by even simply hearing Kaido's name which makes my original point stand.
 
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