How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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He taught him basics but those teachings were more useful for him to unlock FS

While COa basics he taught him , luffy couldn't reach Adcoa/barrier on his own .

It makes sense anyway, Ray hyped FS more thus Oda used Rayleigh CoO teachings as foundation
While adCoA wasn't hyped by Ray...
Ray didn't bother even mentioning to Luffu that there is higher level of COa... luffy only remembers it by seeing Ray use it
the statement made by rayleigh applied to all haki
not just coo blooming in extreme situations

lol at this point
you are beyond.....
nvm
 
I’d say they should be pissed at Oda tbh.

yeah? That’s how weight training works, in this case Zoro trained with enma to be able to handle it but as he said he is still unable to fully unleash its power, it’s gonna come through the fight.
They are taking out their anger on the Zoro bois. They're expectations since 997 vs results have just kept going down.

We know at some point Sanji is going up vs the calamity that's obvious, but for Oda to do him in dirty like this is rough
 
Enma is a training wheel, did it make Zoro stronger ? Yes. But is it in itself something that powers you up instantly if you pick it up? No.

It’s like dumbbells, they make you stronger, but you ain’t gonna gain 50 pounds of muscle just by picking one up.
But when Zoro first picked up Enma he did a giant slash everyone was impressed with.

It does both help with haki training and magnify his output. If it only had the downside of being difficult to use surely he'd pick another sword for his fight so he wasn't limiting himself.

It's more like having high string action on a guitar, makes it more difficult to fret chords but makes the note sound out for longer. Both a hindrance but once used to it an advantage.
 

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Fair enough. I just checked and there is no "absorption"(more like exuding the wielder's ryou) statement being made.

With that said, Zoro said to give it back



Suggesting Enma took it from him
The process must be obviously reversible however or else Enma could become invincible by sucking haki each time I mean lol. This is why haki is not stored if not momentarily.
 
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Blame Oda for giving Zoro enma and then hyping enma and Oden each time Kaido fights

Zoro basically got a cheat code
Oden : cheat-code to be successful or be PK ..he can read RPs and is a freak of nature
Enma : cheat-code to hurt kaido fatally and possibly even be greatest Swordman ever
 
So much hype for Kaido 's hybrid form . I took L for thinking he doesn't have one , since he has fish model..
No one cared when XDrake transformed into hybrid lol
I still fail to see the argument behind Kaido lacking a hybrid form because he has a model of the fish family.

Regarding Drake, let's remember that some people discussed that ancient zoans wouldn't have hybrids either. Which, again, I still fail to see the reason for. Once Drake's was revealed, only mythical models were considered to have two forms only or partial transformations like Marco —which, in actuality, has been shown as something that common models can do too.
 
Blame Oda for giving Zoro enma and then hyping enma and Oden each time Kaido fights

Zoro basically got a cheat code
Oden : cheat-code to be successful or be PK ..he can read RPs and is a freak of nature
Enma : cheat-code to hurt kaido fatally and possibly even be greatest Swordman ever
How ? Because you lack the ability to read . Enma is training for zoro so he can put insane ryou output on all 3 swords . Like oden who matched enma output with his other sword .
 
Omg, if you can keep Haki indefinitely, then why can only one sword? Why is he then included in the TOP 21 blades, and not in the TOP 12? After all, he completely changes the whole concept of Haki! Why then did not Oden cut Kaido in half with this Enma? AND? Why did he leave a bunch of Haki supplies inside him then? When is such an enemy in front of him?
Because it can. It says it can. So it can. Take it up with Lolda
 
Fair enough. I just checked and there is no "absorption"(more like exuding the wielder's ryou) statement being made.

With that said, Zoro said to give it back



Suggesting Enma took it from him
Also if it was Oden's haki,Zoro shouldn t be tired after Kaen move since Zoro didn t used his haki.There is no stored haki in the blade.
It s not that hard :cheers:
 
Haki is, BY FAR, the worst thing Oda has ever introduced in this story.
Worse than Oden.
The way he intentionally dont "fully explains" it so he can justify all the asspullin and retcons in its functionalities.
At least Togashi is sincere with his asspullings.
"Yo, see all these Nen categories? See how each of them work? Ok. There's a special one. What it does? Anything. Literally. If it doesnt fit the other 5, than its this one. When I create some weird ass abilities that wouldnt fit any of the other 5, you at least know there's this special category, so it doesnt seen out of nowhere".

Franky vs Sasaki is gonna be the best fight.
No Haki involved. Just sheer power vs inventions.
Fuck this convoluted ass trash power system.
Worst of all is the Overwhelming inconsistency regarding who gets Haki and who doesn't
How the fuck Can a loser like Bellamy get Haki when guys like Kyros don't

Why the fuck didn't Alabasta's Zoan warriors learn haki just in case Crocodile betray them(or buy Seastone bullets from Wano)

How can Pekoms learn Haki if he's Portrayed as having learning disabilities regarding his Sulong form. If Haki is easier than Sulong then why doesn't Carrot have it

It's mindboggling to even think about the lack of logic about haki, it gets worse when you remember that Amazon and Skypiea fodder can learn it too but the Majority of Big Mom's children and Doflamingo's executives don't
 
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