Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion
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For me "Diable Jambe" is a natural element type of Armament Haki. It's the only way to explain logically how he can do this.
Same for Luffy's Red Hawk + Red Roc and Zoro's Hiryu Kaen.
"Kiki Kyutoryu Ashura" in the other hand is certainly an Advanced Conqueror's Haki technique.
Rayleigh explained it well : Conqueror's Haki is the manifestation of a person's spirit ... which is what Zoro did there
Same for Luffy's Red Hawk + Red Roc and Zoro's Hiryu Kaen.
"Kiki Kyutoryu Ashura" in the other hand is certainly an Advanced Conqueror's Haki technique.
Rayleigh explained it well : Conqueror's Haki is the manifestation of a person's spirit ... which is what Zoro did there
Fanboys back then:
There won't be person stronger than Roger
There won't be a guy who have Bigger bounty than Roger
Gear 4 can be beat Yonko
There won't be Gear 5
Doflamingo is Yonko level
Why Killer is in the roof?
Killer never be nerfed
CP0 are weak
Mihawk is the strongest shichibukai
Gorosei are weak
Zoro use Ryou since Alabasta
Zoro is stronger than Luffy post timeskip
There won't be person stronger than Roger
There won't be a guy who have Bigger bounty than Roger
Gear 4 can be beat Yonko
There won't be Gear 5
Doflamingo is Yonko level
Why Killer is in the roof?
Killer never be nerfed
CP0 are weak
Mihawk is the strongest shichibukai
Gorosei are weak
Zoro use Ryou since Alabasta
Zoro is stronger than Luffy post timeskip
also explain why kaido thinks scabbards have oden s ryou
You become the moron for closing your eyes to obvious things just because it doesn’t fit to your opinion
just copied that from my previous answer
Bruh, this advanced haki is so confusing and Oda is total trash explaining it. Zoro in chapter 1001 ask if this is the new haki that Luffy has learned. This means that Zoro doesn't know about the advanced one. If in this chapter Kaido says that he feels Oden's haki in Enma then maybe Oda is going to reveal that the sword stored/consumed Oden's haki in the past. Remember that Oden gave the swords to his wife when he was captured, maybe then he stored his haki in the blades? Otherwise it makes no sense....... it's confusing and Oda doesn't help with this Oden wank that he is doing. Kaido says this is Oden's haki by that he means advanced armament or what? Luffy also hurt him with advanced haki but he didn't say anything about Oden. So Zoro who asked 2 chapters ago about Luffy's new haki suddenly has stronger haki than Luffy? Like...... WTF Oda?
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Actually it was explicitly stated in a Vivre Card that Mihawk did defeat all of the other WSS candidates. @HA001 or @Light D Lamperouge can cite. If you are referring to Mihawk never defeating Shanks, you’ll just have to come to terms with the fact that Shanks was never a candidate to be the WSS.
For Whitebeard, he was referred to as the strongest since he actually matched Roger on at least 1 and likely multiple occasions, and Roger was the Pirate King so it’s pretty safe to assume he’s the strongest. The Yonko themselves also believe Whitebeard was above them. There’s no definitive proof I’ll grant you but it’s a very safe assumption.
With Kaido, not only does Oda never officially introduce him as the strongest character, but instead refers to him as the “supposed 1v1 King (an inherently different claim than “strongest character”), and spends every chance he gets with Kaido humiliating him in ways that he has never humiliated other top tiers, having Kaido demonstrate laughably worse feats than other top tiers, making directly more impressive claims about Akainu (Akainu can become the PK in less than a year, directly stated by Oda) than Kaido who needs to ally with a whole other Yonko do the same thing, having credible sources like Zoro, Akainu, and Kizaru reference Kaido in ways that they likely would not reference the strongest character, having Sengoku and Kong directly state that Marineford Whitebeard was the strongest pirate after Marineford Whitebeard got baby shaked by every Admiral, etc.
The Oden thing is primarily an example of a 1v1 Kaido would’ve technically received credit for winning without actually earning his victory. That victory would’ve been perceived as a win for him, which automatically brings into question every other win he’s ever achieved.
His win over Luffy was also questionable as he relied on a sneak attack.
This is like saying that you think Claim A is true because you’ve heard it from multiple unqualified sources. The amount of crazy homeless people who tell me the Illuminati exists does not increase the validity of the claim.
Akainu beat Aokiji by the skin of his teeth and wound up brutally wounded in the process. He and Aokiji are literal equals in strength, with no reason to believe Kizaru is beneath them. If Akainu can be above Kaido, so can two dudes equal to Akainu in power lol.
Yeah, see the above. It concerns me that you would believe certain claims just because you start hearing them from multiple unqualified sources lol.
The fact that I already told you above that Akainu is not stronger than Kizaru or Aokiji is a direct refutation to the idea that I would cling to bullshit reasons to stick Akainu over other characters.
Akainu is stronger than Kaido, but not because Akainu may or may not have idiots who believe he is above Kaido.
Well, by your standards, it sounds like the only way Akainu can be confirmed stronger than anyone is if multiple unqualified sources start claiming Akainu is stronger than other characters based on their perception of rumors and what else lol. I don’t know if this will ever happen, and I hope you’ll change your standards of belief soon lol.
Yeah I already hinted at some of the hints above, so I won’t waste much more time lol. I just wanted to make one last point:
For Whitebeard, he was referred to as the strongest since he actually matched Roger on at least 1 and likely multiple occasions, and Roger was the Pirate King so it’s pretty safe to assume he’s the strongest. The Yonko themselves also believe Whitebeard was above them. There’s no definitive proof I’ll grant you but it’s a very safe assumption.
With Kaido, not only does Oda never officially introduce him as the strongest character, but instead refers to him as the “supposed 1v1 King (an inherently different claim than “strongest character”), and spends every chance he gets with Kaido humiliating him in ways that he has never humiliated other top tiers, having Kaido demonstrate laughably worse feats than other top tiers, making directly more impressive claims about Akainu (Akainu can become the PK in less than a year, directly stated by Oda) than Kaido who needs to ally with a whole other Yonko do the same thing, having credible sources like Zoro, Akainu, and Kizaru reference Kaido in ways that they likely would not reference the strongest character, having Sengoku and Kong directly state that Marineford Whitebeard was the strongest pirate after Marineford Whitebeard got baby shaked by every Admiral, etc.
The Oden thing is primarily an example of a 1v1 Kaido would’ve technically received credit for winning without actually earning his victory. That victory would’ve been perceived as a win for him, which automatically brings into question every other win he’s ever achieved.
His win over Luffy was also questionable as he relied on a sneak attack.
This is like saying that you think Claim A is true because you’ve heard it from multiple unqualified sources. The amount of crazy homeless people who tell me the Illuminati exists does not increase the validity of the claim.
Akainu beat Aokiji by the skin of his teeth and wound up brutally wounded in the process. He and Aokiji are literal equals in strength, with no reason to believe Kizaru is beneath them. If Akainu can be above Kaido, so can two dudes equal to Akainu in power lol.
Yeah, see the above. It concerns me that you would believe certain claims just because you start hearing them from multiple unqualified sources lol.
The fact that I already told you above that Akainu is not stronger than Kizaru or Aokiji is a direct refutation to the idea that I would cling to bullshit reasons to stick Akainu over other characters.
Akainu is stronger than Kaido, but not because Akainu may or may not have idiots who believe he is above Kaido.
Well, by your standards, it sounds like the only way Akainu can be confirmed stronger than anyone is if multiple unqualified sources start claiming Akainu is stronger than other characters based on their perception of rumors and what else lol. I don’t know if this will ever happen, and I hope you’ll change your standards of belief soon lol.
Yeah I already hinted at some of the hints above, so I won’t waste much more time lol. I just wanted to make one last point:
For me "Diable Jambe" is a natural element type of Armament Haki. It's the only way to explain logically how he can do this.
Same for Luffy's Red Hawk + Red Roc and Zoro's Hiryu Kaen.
"Kiki Kyutoryu Ashura" in the other hand is certainly an Advanced Conqueror's Haki technique.
Rayleigh explained it well : Conqueror's Haki is the manifestation of a person's spirit ... which is what Zoro did there
Same for Luffy's Red Hawk + Red Roc and Zoro's Hiryu Kaen.
"Kiki Kyutoryu Ashura" in the other hand is certainly an Advanced Conqueror's Haki technique.
Rayleigh explained it well : Conqueror's Haki is the manifestation of a person's spirit ... which is what Zoro did there
and he used this prets ?
why does it have to be advanced coc .
would doubt that tbh.
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