Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Uncle Van]

no its not same thing, each Haki type right now has been divided in so many parts, Oda almost turning Haki into a DF...
anyways, its not the same thing, as we saw Zoro Has Wano Ryou but he acknowledged Luffy's internal Haki is different... meaning Kaido knows internal Haki that characters outside Wano Knows it like Shanks the swordsman, but he didnt know Wano Ryou which Oden/Zoro/Scabbard used

So far, Oda is doing a very poor job at differentiating the two....Kaido goes wtf when Luffy or a swordsman hurts him.....BM goes wtf when Luffy or swordsman hurts him....both hakis hurt Kaido legitimately.

Luffy learned Ryou from Samurai Hyou....Zoro and the Scabbards used Ryou....Kaido calls Zoro and the Scabbard's Ryou "Oden haki"....he senses Zoro's Ryou but not Luffy's or the Scabbards.

Oda taking liberties.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

I just realised the dude who translated and put his opinion is a huge zoro fanboy.. no wonder why he is making up stuff.

Kaido says something about Oden's haki and Enma

Zoro Fanboys like acnologia and other translators
" we think kaido meant..."

If Oda wanted to make it seem like retainers case...he wouldn't have kaido wonder and say it like this.

 

[sanjikun]

So far, Oda is doing a very poor job at differentiating the two....Kaido goes wtf when Luffy or a swordsman hurts him.....BM goes wtf when Luffy or swordsman hurts him....both hakis hurt Kaido legitimately.

Luffy learned Ryou from Samurai Hyou....Zoro and the Scabbards used Ryou....Kaido calls Zoro and the Scabbard's Ryou "Oden haki"....he senses Zoro's Ryou but not Luffy's or the Scabbards.

Oda taking liberties.

Oda told us in 2016. He just wanted "something else" because Luffy's "strong punch" by itself beating Kaido wouldn't satisfy readers.

This powerup is just an excuse for Luffy to beat Kaido without making it seem like an asspull.

 

[Cinera]

Franky AND Yamato are both looking nice, it’s great to see them and Jinbe after a few chapters! Always love an update on the REAL Monster Trio, directly below Luffy and Zoro but definitely above everyone else on that page

Based. Franky - Yamato and Jimbe as the new Monster trio is something I dig.

Zoros bottom tier move is stronger than Gamma Knife + Kidds final form + Killers sonic wave combined.

Much stronger. It not only fucked Kaido up pretty badly, it completely overwhelmed his named tornado attack.

Just how fucking strong is Zoro? EoS Sanji gets no diffed @Cinera

As I keep telling you, current Santoryu Zoro is a low top tier.

I am not tryna rank overall strength but just specific forms.

Tell me what do you guys think of my power scaling

Zoros Ashura and Luffys potential Awakening/Gear 5th = Mid Top Tier. Basically both are equal to Oden/Fujitora

Santoryu Zoro with Full power Ryou = Low Top Tier

G4 Luffy = In Betweener
Kidd with Robot = YC1
Law and Killer = YC2 level

@Cinera
@Admiral Lee Hung @comrade @LuthonTheDragDown

This seems sensible. Though Kidd has had the worst performance on the rooftop. I'm not sure how much benefit of the doubt he merits.

Kidd with Robot can't beat Katakuri.

Do you think Katakuri is the weakest YC 1?


Robot Kidd seems to have AP beyond Pre Udon Boundman. He probably dominates someone like Queen, but is just a bad matchup for Katakuri.

 

[sanjikun]

Robot Kidd seems to have AP beyond Pre Udon Boundman. He probably dominates someone like Queen, but is just a bad matchup for Katakuri.

No, just no. Don't even joke about that. KKG is an island splitter if it lands directly on the ground.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

So far, Oda is doing a very poor job at differentiating the two....Kaido goes wtf when Luffy or a swordsman hurts him.....BM goes wtf when Luffy or swordsman hurts him....both hakis hurt Kaido legitimately.

Luffy learned Ryou from Samurai Hyou....Zoro and the Scabbards used Ryou....Kaido calls Zoro and the Scabbard's Ryou "Oden haki"....he senses Zoro's Ryou but not Luffy's or the Scabbards.

Oda taking liberties.

Kaido didn't call Zoro's haki even
He was trying to make sure which haki is he sensing if the aura is indeed Oden's. ..he realised it is indeed Oden's.

This is why you guys think Oda is confusing people.

Enma has Oden's aura/haki/presence in it. When zoro uses enma, it releases Oden's.
Retainers were using the same ryuo/haki as Oden did but they just lacked the power!
Luffy is using not just ryuo/haki but even the last stage.

Kaido did sense Retainers haki, that's how he was comparing/wonder if they are using same ryuo as Oden!

While here, he isnt sensing Zoro's haki but Oden's! He was wondering and made sure then concluded "this is Oden's katana"

 

[Cinera]

No, just no. Don't even joke about that. KKG is an island splitter if it lands directly on the ground.

I wasn't including KKG.

I differentiate KKG from Boundman's other attacks (it's not an island splitter anyway, Dressrosa had an underground level where the seaport and other stuff were, KKG just crushed through the "floor").

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Based. Franky - Yamato and Jimbe as the new Monster trio is something I dig.



Much stronger. It not only fucked Kaido up pretty badly, it completely overwhelmed his named tornado attack.



As I keep telling you, current Santoryu Zoro is a low top tier.



This seems sensible. Though Kidd has had the worst performance on the rooftop. I'm not sure how much benefit of the doubt he merits.



Do you think Katakuri is the weakest YC 1?


Robot Kidd seems to have AP beyond Pre Udon Boundman. He probably dominates someone like Queen, but is just a bad matchup for Katakuri.

Low top tier Zoro who got mocked and couldn't hurt kaido better than Kawamatsu/kinnemon did with their blades
Low top indeed

 

[Batik4ever]

A little more and I call CIA

 

[stairs-kun]

A little more and I call CIA

They deal with international matters

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

They deal with international matters

we're sending them to japan to sort this out

 

[mckengrie]

Spoiler provider slept but OP fans expected chapter. This is a tragedy.

 

[Uncle Van]

Kaido didn't call Zoro's haki even
He was trying to make sure which haki is he sensing if the aura is indeed Oden's. ..he realised it is indeed Oden's.

This is why you guys think Oda is confusing people.

Enma has Oden's aura/haki/presence in it. When zoro uses enma, it releases Oden's.
Retainers were using the same ryuo/haki as Oden did but they just lacked the power!
Luffy is using not just ryuo/haki but even the last stage.

Kaido did sense Retainers haki, that's how he was comparing/wonder if they are using same ryuo as Oden!

While here, he isnt sensing Zoro's haki but Oden's! He was wondering and made sure then concluded "this is Oden's katana"

So did Oden channel his haki into the scabbard or the weapons or something? His haki is leftover in Enma?

Kaido also never sensed the Scabbard's haki....they stabbed him which made him wonder if they have Oden's haki...

 

[Fuckthis3]

I just realised the dude who translated and put his opinion is a huge zoro fanboy.. no wonder why he is making up stuff.

Kaido says something about Oden's haki and Enma

Zoro Fanboys like acnologia and other translators
" we think kaido meant..."

If Oda wanted to make it seem like retainers case...he wouldn't have kaido wonder and say it like this.

@Aknolagon

 

[sanjikun]

I wasn't including KKG.

I differentiate KKG from Boundman's other attacks (it's not an island splitter anyway, Dressrosa had an underground level where the seaport and other stuff were, KKG just crushed through the "floor").

Still. I don't think Kid can send Katakuri flying.

 

[imacub]

I just realised the dude who translated and put his opinion is a huge zoro fanboy.. no wonder why he is making up stuff.

Kaido says something about Oden's haki and Enma

Zoro Fanboys like acnologia and other translators
" we think kaido meant..."

If Oda wanted to make it seem like retainers case...he wouldn't have kaido wonder and say it like this.

 

[rerere]

Still nothing? What the fuck?

 

[sanjikun]

BREAKING: Spoiler provider knocked out by Luffy's CoC.

More to come...

 

[Cinera]

Still. I don't think Kid can send Katakuri flying.

If he hits Katakuri why not? He'll find it hard to hit Katakuri, but Kidd has demonstrated impressive physical strength from his performance against Kaido.

Pre Udon Boundman's hits didn't seem to do much to Kaido, but Kaido had a greater reaction to Kidd's attacks.

 

[sanjikun]

If he hits Katakuri why not? He'll find it hard to hit Katakuri, but Kidd has demonstrated impressive physical strength from his performance against Kaido.

Pre Udon Boundman's hits didn't seem to do much to Kaido, but Kaido had a greater reaction to Kidd's attacks.

Luffy never used Kong Gatling. Gatling > Organ. Organ is spread out more. Gatling is more intense.

Btw, also compare them in real life

Organ is more spread out.