Baby 5/Buffalo pierced through Shogun Franky. Your fucking Black Maria doesn't even have basic Haki. She's at best like Gladius level. Trebol/Diamante had both types.
These Tobi Roppo ain't shit compared to guys like this
Even for Jinbe, this is BASE Jinbe without water, fighting against WW + all his guys, like Oden vs. Ashura.
Are you mentally deficient? You realize those were their NORTH BLUE FROZEN bounties from 10 years ago?